According to Sky sports transfer centre he'd be a fantastic replacement for Di Maria.
Lucas Biglia
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He's a DM isn't he. More like we aren't getting a CB and he is taking Blinds place and extra cover if Carrick ends up there as well.
Yeah he is. Sky Sports are clueless.
So we are linked to some random guy in some random papers and sky sports transfer centre and hysteria follows. Wow.
Welcome to the Summer Transfer Window, where anyone can sign anyone.
Doesnt smell right...
I want to know how the feck he's being mentioned as a Di Maria replacement when he's a defensive midfielder? 
Anyway, the only reason I can see us buying Biglia is if Van Gaal now sees Blind as a permanent centre back, leaving us with Carrick, Schweinsteiger, Schneiderlin and Biglia operating in the holding roles for us.
Anyway, the only reason I can see us buying Biglia is if Van Gaal now sees Blind as a permanent centre back, leaving us with Carrick, Schweinsteiger, Schneiderlin and Biglia operating in the holding roles for us.
Probably another Argie replacing an Argie, there you go with the Di Maria replacement thing
I remember him getting linked with Arsenal the last few years, he is a decent midfielder, but would be just a squad player obviously. Dont know why the feck we should buy him or are getting linked with him.
I remember him getting linked with Arsenal the last few years, he is a decent midfielder, but would be just a squad player obviously. Dont know why the feck we should buy him or are getting linked with him.
I could not be more against this. Biglia is fine and if we didn't have Schneiderlin or Schweinsteiger it would be a logical, if underwhelming and likely overly expensive signing in the long-term, but now it would just be odd and kind of infuriating with no LCB Van Gaal trusts and Young starting every week and our team really only having 2 nailed on starters under 25 for the long term (Shaw, Memphis) so a few prospect signings being needed, if not immediately.
Yea looks like typical BS. Doesn't make sense for any parties involved.
Of course all of this could be complete bollox, but these are the type of transfers that possibly have legs, because it's completely out of the blue & under the radar, so you never know.
If true we're after him, then it seems like LvG wasnt completely happy with what he's seen in CM in the game against Spurs & possibly in pre-season, or that he's worried about Basti & Carrick's fitness for a whole season & got Ed to try & sort out a deal for this fella straight after the Spurs game?!
I wouldnt be against signing him tbh (i sure love us having shitload of CM's at the club now, after having f*ck all depth for years) - if LvG thinks the more the merrier options in CM we have, the better.. and i've read that he's a box-box CM - not just a holding midfielder:
The annoyance in all of this though; is that areas such as CB & upfront, arent looking to being prioritised enough, or even at all by LvG - when its blatantly obvious those are the key areas we should be putting all our energies into now - not CM.
Just hope a deal for Pedro doesnt go tits up either, just because we've been haggling over a couple of million quid & could have had everything sorted weeks ago & agreed to let him play in the Super Cup tonight, then come to us afterwards!
If true we're after him, then it seems like LvG wasnt completely happy with what he's seen in CM in the game against Spurs & possibly in pre-season, or that he's worried about Basti & Carrick's fitness for a whole season & got Ed to try & sort out a deal for this fella straight after the Spurs game?!
I wouldnt be against signing him tbh (i sure love us having shitload of CM's at the club now, after having f*ck all depth for years) - if LvG thinks the more the merrier options in CM we have, the better.. and i've read that he's a box-box CM - not just a holding midfielder:
"Biglia attempted a staggering 182 tackles, of which he won 65, while he also completed 88% of his passes.
Going forward, the Argentina international showed quality, too; Biglia created 38 chances – only Antonio Candreva created more (64). The 29-year-old also chipped in with four goals in Serie A last term.."
http://www.squawka.com/news/reports...r-deal-with-biglia-but-lazio-want-e40m/436705
Going forward, the Argentina international showed quality, too; Biglia created 38 chances – only Antonio Candreva created more (64). The 29-year-old also chipped in with four goals in Serie A last term.."
http://www.squawka.com/news/reports...r-deal-with-biglia-but-lazio-want-e40m/436705
The annoyance in all of this though; is that areas such as CB & upfront, arent looking to being prioritised enough, or even at all by LvG - when its blatantly obvious those are the key areas we should be putting all our energies into now - not CM.
Just hope a deal for Pedro doesnt go tits up either, just because we've been haggling over a couple of million quid & could have had everything sorted weeks ago & agreed to let him play in the Super Cup tonight, then come to us afterwards!
Biglia is not good enough for United. At the age of 26, if you are a top player, you are not playing for Anderlecht.
Regarding that stat about tackles, you could read it another way: of the staggering 182 tackles attempted, he lost an even more staggering 117 or about 66%.
Regarding that stat about tackles, you could read it another way: of the staggering 182 tackles attempted, he lost an even more staggering 117 or about 66%.
Midfield is becoming the new "striker/#10" roles, and vice versa.
Overstocked in the one, severely lacking in depth/quality in the other
Overstocked in the one, severely lacking in depth/quality in the other
Only just woke up but looking at this two players per position thing then blind to cb and biglia could make sense. Assuming we buy Pedro it actually leaves us short at lb, 9 and 10...
Gk
Romero
Darmian
Valencia
Smalling
Jones
Blind
Rojo
Shaw
?????
Carrick
Schweini
Schneiderlin
Biglia
Mata
Pedro
Depay
Young
Herrera
10
Rooney
9
Gk
Romero
Darmian
Valencia
Smalling
Jones
Blind
Rojo
Shaw
?????
Carrick
Schweini
Schneiderlin
Biglia
Mata
Pedro
Depay
Young
Herrera
10
Rooney
9
So he seems to be a freekick and long range specialist...
Nope, we've actually been linked with him as early as June. This article is from June 23
http://mufclatest.com/manchester-united-tracking-lazios-argentinian-midfielder-this-summer/
In Italy, Il Messaggero have reported that Lazio midfielder Lucas Biglia, currently in Chile with the Argentina squad preparing for their Copa America quarter-final against Colombia on Friday (early hours of Saturday morning in the United Kingdom). The reports in Italy also suggest that Real Madrid and Paris Saint-Germain are also after the player, who could cost €26 million (£18.6 million), which would represent a decent signing for Louis van Gaal’s side this summer. Biglia is a defensive midfielder who has previously played for Argentinos Juniors (2004/05), Independiente (2005/06), Anderlecht (2006/13) and now Lazio. He has played for his country, Argentina, at U17, U20 and senior level, making a total of32 appearances to date at senior level.
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We are stockpiling average to decent players again, instead of buying top class for our starting eleven in positions we need. It is not like we need any CM/DMs for squad depth.
If he was 23, ok, but the guy is 29, give me a break.
If he was 23, ok, but the guy is 29, give me a break.
How are we "stockpiling" them? This window has seen us buy Depay, Darmian, Bastian and Morgan. All proven to be top premier league quality or have huge potential. You always need the occasional player that's happy to sit on the bench and you don't get that from world class players. Not that i'm for this move, I don;t think we need any more centre mids, but to say we're stock piling average players from a couple of rumours is ludicrous.
If the guy has better fitness than both Carrick and Bastian he could be our savior at one point this season if God forbid those two get injured at the same time. I'd rather we got a younger player in this position if this is what LVG is really going for. This guy has loads of experience though. It could be invaluable.
Romero, Blind, Rojo....potentially Biglia and another striker?.....Alongside squad players we already have like Young, Fellaini, Jones etc....
These guys are not average. I mean seriously...do you think we could have a team with world class talent in every position? Romero is a backup keeper FFS, probably the most experienced one already in the PL being the most capped Argentina keeper and having just played in the world cup final and the Copa America. Blind is an intelligent player who can cover more than one position, he's any manager's dream. Rojo may not be an elite player but he's a great athlete and more than competent enough to do a job here. This isn't FM
You can't really count Young, Fellaini and Jones though as they weren't LVG's signings and he knows young isn't of the quality required, he's said as much in his interviews. Sir Alex definitely had an affinity with buying more average players and making them useful but LVG's buys have been of a much higher quality.
Romero, he's been bought as a short term option. Someone who can cover for De Gea until the transfer window closes then can act as a back-up. If he hadn't have bought him and De Gea isn;t mentally fit to play then we'd be left with Johnstone in goal.
Blind is the kind of player every team needs, he's our new O Shea. He may not be world class in any single position but his versatility makes him a valuable asset. He has one of the most intelligent football brains in the team for what it's worth.
Rojo. Had a solid first season for someone who came in mid way through to a new league, new country, new team mates etc. Do you remember how awful Vidic and Evra were when they joined? Jury is still out on him. When he returns to the first team, this season will be a fair assessment of his ability.
I don't think we'll have an abundance of "average" players in the team by any means. LvG seems keen to cut adrift anyone not good enough and find upgrades on any that aren't performing to a high level.
Alright. Thanks for the info man..
That panic and dive at 2:43
Not sure that really fits the description of 'Skills, Assists, Goals'...I don't get why we are still interested/linked with more midfielders. Either buy better quality wingers or focus on central defense.
Yeah, very good point man.
So this signing would make sense then - given LvG stating he wanted 2 players for every position; which is commonsense management anyway, but he wants to have non-average players though, which is not a luxury most clubs have either.
We're sorted at LB though man - Blind & Rojo can fill in there. Blind's a very good LB imo, but i dont rate Rojo playin there - he looks totally disinterested & wants to play CB, which i think he showed enough warrior spirit last season to be a monster there. He's a good passer from CB also.
We need a CB, as we cant rely on Jones or Smalling staying fit & we have deja vu with Jones again now. Even at that - we need an upgrade on Jones pronto.
As for Strikers - we need a 9 alright, as Rooney's been off-form all pre-season & then against Spurs. Wilson's still learning his trade & Adnan cant play up there against big-assed CB's - they'll eat him up. Is he really a Striker anyway? I dont think so, but maybe LvG does & isnt bullshitting the media.
Chicharito will be sold if a good fee comes in for him imo. That's if he's up for the move of course.
Excluding Pedro, which looks just a matter of time (hopefully); there's still plenty of time for us to get what we all think we need - a CB & a Striker.. and i wouldnt be disappointed at all if we didnt bring in a marquee signing, aslong as the squad has quality all over it.
I've warmed to the idea that Biglia would be a good signing & the options we would have in CM would be even more fantastic than it is now & no more Rooney playing there too.. Thank f*ck!
We have a guy called Perreira which neither you nor the tramp guy you quoted failed to mention. We signed enough quality players for midfield. We can afford to give Perreira a chance. It isn't a smart move spending again on an area we are very well stocked in.
Again going back to the old unveiling presser - he said he wants four defensive midfielders and was happy to name the four in Carrick, Bastian, Morgan and Blind.
So this could basically mean Blind's status has been permanently changed to defense.
So this could basically mean Blind's status has been permanently changed to defense.
Do not want - especially for that price. Will be seriously questioning LVG if we buy this guy.
On the other hand you'll be praising him if we have a midfield injury crisis and Biglia slots in with his vast experience. We're campaigning on all fronts
What are his football manager stats?
It'd be the most pointless signing we could possibly make. Thinking about this we should probably try to get Gaitan, Biglia and Cilessen as our three remaining signings this Summer, caf would implode.
Oh i havent forgotten about him mate - he'll just be eased in this season imo, so i excluded him on that basis. Its also hard to figure out what his best position is - either left-side of a front 3 or behind the Striker?!
As has been pointed out, 2 players for every position man & Biglia would fit the type of player that Morgan is (physical presence, but can play), Basti & Carrick are similar to each other, in which they control the tempo & spray play.
I think LvG see's Fellaini playin as a plan B forward now - causing chaos when we need to. He can also drift into CM to cover a subbed CM too, like he did last season.
If we get a much-needed CB, a Striker, Pedro & Biglia - coupled with our young players such as Perreira, then our squad looks f*cking awesome
We have four players who are natural in the exact position he plays in, how many could we possibly need to make us immune to injury crisis? We don't have this many players for any other position. We cannot go and spend £500m on two new squads because the current one might get injured.
Im positive we are going to sign a CB this summer which means if we have a couple of players injured, even Blind can slot into central midfield. We don't need to spend and sign someone like Biglia. And like you also said we still have Fellaini.Oh i havent forgotten about him mate - he'll just be eased in this season imo, so i excluded him on that basis. Its also hard to figure out what his best position is - either left-side of a front 3 or behind the Striker?!
As has been pointed out, 2 players for every position man & Biglia would fit the type of player that Morgan is (physical presence, but can play), Basti & Carrick are similar to each other, in which they control the tempo & spray play.
I think LvG see's Fellaini playin as a plan B forward now - causing chaos when we need to. He can also drift into CM to cover a subbed CM too, like he did last season.
If we get a much-needed CB, a Striker, Pedro & Biglia - coupled with our young players such as Perreira, then our squad looks f*cking awesome
OK, that's a relief, it's just a made up story.
You're totally sure about this, yeah?
Aldo made a very good point about Blind not being in LvG's plans for a CM role anymore & i agree with him..
I wish we would stock up on upgrade CB's tbh, but i'll settle for just one world-class one, or one on the cusp of being world-class.
Then there's the Stones situation too. It would be a shitbuzz if he ends up at Chelsea & we didnt try for him with a bid..
We have Carrick, Blind, Schneiderlin and Schweinsteiger who can all play DM. What the hell do we need this guy for?
Would be a totally pointless signing.
That's what I'm thinking.