Louis van Gaal | Manchester United manager

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Last week Gullit, this week Cruyff. Everyone has it in for Van Gaal..
 


Last week Gullit, this week Cruyff. Everyone has it in for Van Gaal..
van Gaal and Cruyff have had a long, long, long lasting hate for one another.
 
For all Cruyff's talk, if it was him managing Holland at the World Cup rather than Van Gaal I think they'd have had a struggle getting out of the group. It's a testament to his blinkered view of the game that he sees Van Gaal adapting his tactics to his personal in order to achieve success as a negative rather than a positive.

At the end of the day Cruyff can only stay in his ivory tower of flawless passing football because playing with a squad of limited players is something he never had to deal with at managerial level. If he'd tried his hand at it he'd probably have a bit more perspective.
 
Does not matter who wants to criticize him, LVG is here to stay. The club cannot give a manager all that amount of spending money and not give said manager the time to establish his "philosophy".
 
A well, business as usual.. Cruyff blasting LvG, LvG giving it back to Cruyff. They hate each others guts. This has been happening in the Netherlands for the last decades, so not that special actually. It only got worse after the last episode at Ajax, where they went head to head about who got to lead the club. Cruyff won that fight eventually though.
 
I will say I didn't like the football the Dutch played at the World Cup. But international management is rather different to club football in terms of the personnel you cal select.
 
I will say I didn't like the football the Dutch played at the World Cup. But international management is rather different to club football in terms of the personnel you cal select.

Netherlands did not have a good generation this WC, so LvG was pragmatic and tried to get the best out of the team. Though this obviously was at the expense of good, fluent and beautiful football. But that team simply lacked the quality to play this possesion based total-football. So it wouldn't have been good football either way. Much the same as Mourinho (he is a protege of LvG), always pragmatic and tries to get the best out of the team, even if this means parking the bus. Only in the end LvG focusses more on youth and a more attacking-possesion based style of play.
 
Netherlands were one of the best managed teams at the World Cup. Played to their maximum, flexible tactically (changed formation while behind against Australia and Mexico and went on to win both games), mostly solid at the back and with decent amount of offensive fluidity. All that without having an impressive squad, LvG gave everyone a chance prior to and at the World Cup which was key.
 
Netherlands were one of the best managed teams at the World Cup. Played to their maximum, flexible tactically (changed formation while behind against Australia and Mexico and went on to win both games), mostly solid at the back and with decent amount of offensive fluidity. All that without having an impressive squad, LvG gave everyone a chance prior to and at the World Cup which was key.
It would have been one of the great managerial feats if the Dutch won the World Cup given the quality of the squad van Gaal had.
 
Cruyff is a village idiot when it comes to talking about Van Gaal. Its so obvious he's bitter
 
Cruyff: 'Van Gaal is too autocratic, he never delegates'

Van Gaal: 'I let the specialists advise me and I listen to them almost all the time'

Basically the difference between the two is that Van Gaal wants to know whats going on, and accepts the responsibility when things go wrong.
 
I think Van Gaal is a perfectionist, and he see's himself as a genius conducting a masterpiece on the field :lol:
And everyone knows he will do it, given time. Even if we won all our games, he'd still not be happy with things until perfected. Mourinho is a little bit similar, and he was VG's pupil.
 
I don't disagree with Cruyff.

Me neither, I just think his bluntness about Moyes is funny.

When it comes to Van Gaal though Cruyff's criticism is totally off. After the wobbles of last season we needed a trainer-coach who could really press the reset button, which Cruyff's comments actually allude to. A lot of our players lost all faith in themselves last season, and they need to have their self-belief rebuild from the bottom up. The relentless drilling that Van Gaal puts United through will help the side know they can perform. Having prepared so totally for every game there will be less room for doubt on the field than otherwise.

Van Gaal is the man we need for where we find ourselves today. Even if our players don't really believe in themselves they can look at his record, they can look at what he did in the World Cup with a less talented but well trained group, and say 'whatever happens if I just do what he tells me, his history shows, we'll be successful'.
 
Has a good opportunity to answer a few questions today against a weakened Everton side. They're not left with much without McCarthy, Coleman and Mirallas.
 
Cruyff: 'Van Gaal is too autocratic, he never delegates'

Van Gaal: 'I let the specialists advise me and I listen to them almost all the time'

Basically the difference between the two is that Van Gaal wants to know whats going on, and accepts the responsibility when things go wrong.
Cruijff hasn't taken a responsability for twenty years. He's just blabbering and not working, everybody should obey his advice or get bullied by the press, but when it leads to a mess as it usually does, he's doesn't have to answer to nobody.


:lol: Are we telling fairy-tales now? The way this is going, you soon start claiming that the team overall actually performed better in 2009/10 than in 13/14 just to hype up van Gaal as much as possible.
I measure strength and level by the strongest of opposition, not by how convincingly a lesser team gets thrashed. I don't know whether Ribery's self expression has something to do with it, but under Guardiolo Bayern couldn't keep up with Europe's best.
 
Looking really good going forward. Quick, decisive and really good movement on and off the ball.
 
Overall, I'm pleased at how much better our football is when going forward. You only have to watch small spells of our play to see that it's improved beyond what we saw under Moyes. Of course, that's hardly difficult, but it's still positive nevertheless.
 
The Subs and tactical changes by Van Gaal today in game were poor again today.

Agree with this. I thought he'd have learned his lesson about Fellaini in midfield from the Swansea loss.

Impressed with how he sends out, the football is much improved, and for a new system its clear his players know what to do. The changes at times have odd though, real odd.
 
The Subs and tactical changes by Van Gaal today in game were poor again today.

Don't think we had a great deal of options. Falcao was tiring, so needed to be taken off, Shaw picked up a knock and he's been saying for a while that Fellaini needs to get match fit. Our performance fell apart at the end, but whose to say that it wouldn't have without the substitutions, because it has been the exact same way every match so far.
 
Agree with this. I thought he'd have learned his lesson about Fellaini in midfield from the Swansea loss.

Impressed with how he sends out, the football is much improved, and for a new system its clear his players know what to do. The changes at times have odd though, real odd.

Given the players on the bench today, who else would you have played?
 
I would have left Valencia on.

I think he brought Fellaini on to give us more strength in the air. Everton were pushing and had corners/free kicks and adding the big wig was a good thing for these kind of situations.
 
Don't think we had a great deal of options. Falcao was tiring, so needed to be taken off, Shaw picked up a knock and he's been saying for a while that Fellaini needs to get match fit. Our performance fell apart at the end, but whose to say that it wouldn't have without the substitutions, because it has been the exact same way every match so far.

To quote myself -

Should have brought on Januzaj for Falcao first as he is more tactically flexible for me. Still that was fine if you wanted to keep Wilson central on the counter but he then didn't take off RVP but shifted Wilson out wide where Januzaj is much more natural. Wilson made 2 key mistakes tracking back which could have been costly and his pace went out of the game.

And Fellaini should have come on for one of RVP or Mata. Probably RVP so we could hoof it to him and let Wilson play off it.

Instead we ended up with RVP who was a passenger by that time, a struggling Fellaini and Wilson struggling out wide.
 
I think he brought Fellaini on to give us more strength in the air. Everton were pushing and had corners/free kicks and adding the big wig was a good thing for these kind of situations.

Should have subbed Mata then. Fellaini was being passed like a stationary object by Everton. The same happened against Swansea. Fellaini falls behind the play too easily in midfield, cant see how he fits the diamond where energy and movement are mandatory.
 
To quote myself -

Sorry, didn't see that post. Can't really argue with the points you made. I have to be honest, I am a little miffed at the lack of game time given to Januzaj this season. Hopefully he'll get, and take, his chance soon enough.
 
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