Think that was his point
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss three 1-1 draws.
The first got us knocked out of the FA Cup, the next puts us in a good position in our Round of 16 Europa League game, and the latest was an actual decent performance against Arsenal at Old Trafford.
All hopes for the season now rest on the Europa League - does Amorim have the squad to win it?
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Interesting.
Moyes played boring one dimensional football, he had no vision or direction, it was clear he was out of his depth. He shook the players confidence to the core.What a sad bunch. Moyes wasn't the problem and it hurts to find out now doesn't it? Well, let's still continue to try rationalize somehow that all this is still his fault.
Moyes was the problem and his stench still lingers around the Club.
2 weeks if the initial prognosis was accurate
Same here.
His interview was the standard one he's been giving recently, warning about things taking time, saying philosophy 3 or 4 times etc....There were a lot of young players out there so I didn't expect him to be harsh in the open, I'm sure he tore into the senior players in the dressing room though.
The bottom line is that the squad lacks quality, confidence and has a lot of injuries right now, couple that with the pressure off the back of last season and trying to use an unfamiliar system and we had to expect it would take time. If we are still sucking this bad by Christmas then it's time to worry, right now we'll just have to accept that we are giving a lot of rival fans a lot of laughs at our expense.
The bottom line is that the squad lacks quality, confidence and has a lot of injuries right now, couple that with the pressure off the back of last season and trying to use an unfamiliar system and we had to expect it would take time. If we are still sucking this bad by Christmas then it's time to worry, right now we'll just have to accept that we are giving a lot of rival fans a lot of laughs at our expense.
That rabble still wore the Manchester United shirt tonight and performed like that, it's simply embarrassing. I don't care whether it was a full strength or a weakened side that isn't the performance of a Manchester United player.
Yeah we need to nip this in the bud before it becomes a self propelling crisis which will consume the manager and leave us back at square one. LvG, for his sake needs to sign another CB and a DM to bring some order in the side otherwise our season will be over by Christmas.
I have complete faith in van gaal, the overreaction here is nothing short of crazy, get a grip people.
The squad is mentally fragile, that's not an easy thing to address, we need to cut the cord with so many players and allow the new players to inject some life into the team again, i think that'll happen, but it'll take time.
Once we start winning our fortunes will change, it's hard to see that now on the back of a bad result but it'll happen.
The squad is mentally fragile, that's not an easy thing to address, we need to cut the cord with so many players and allow the new players to inject some life into the team again, i think that'll happen, but it'll take time.
Once we start winning our fortunes will change, it's hard to see that now on the back of a bad result but it'll happen.
The team did not look as broken in pre-season. Your performance does not just dip just like that even if the level of competition is different. We can not even string passes together or create chances anymore.
Yes. Thats going to make Ando score a volley like Scholes. Does it?.
We started with a weak team in positions very foreign to them. No need to overreact. I fully expect us to bounce back vs Burnley when we get our first team back,
It has to get bad before it gets better, we have been callow, listless and frightened in the first three games, but I'm confident it will get better.
Yep. I said it during the Moyes tenure and I'll say it again: this squad (still) needs serious work. Hopefully he'll green-light the Vidal move now, that would another (vital) piece of the puzzle, but we still need a top class CB, and probably a change in formation.
Imo he underestimated the opponent today. Don't get me wrong, i know that we must be able to win MKD even with many fringe players on the pitch, but the selection was ridiculous.
There are two issues, the first one is why didn't LvG use some of our first team players, especially now that we are going through a transition period and the players are trying to learn a completely new to them formation? I think it would be a good exercise for the defense and their involment in the build up process, it would help some players like Cleverley gain some confidence and i guess even RvP getting a few goals wouldn't hurt him either.
The other thing is that without Europe and after a disastrous season it would benefit the club if we did well in all three domestic competitions. I understand this is the League Cup but what kind of rotation was that? You want to see if Evans is ready? Fine, play him alongside a younster and Jones who already has played two competitive matches in that formation. Use one of your first team choices at WB and give Kagawa a decent chance to prove himself with Rooney or RvP upfront. Not even Barcelona and Real Madrid do in the first stages of the Spanish cup what we did today.
I'm not going to say anything about Anderson and Powel in midfield. An ex-footballer and a player who would be considered slow even if he played in the 50's. Even if LvG needs more time to assess the squad, Giggs should have said something to him, especially about the CMs choice.
The only thing i can think of as an excuse is that we will focus solely on the PL. Yet, it was an embarrassing night for the club. It feels like all the good mood from signing ADM has vanished in thin air.
There are two issues, the first one is why didn't LvG use some of our first team players, especially now that we are going through a transition period and the players are trying to learn a completely new to them formation? I think it would be a good exercise for the defense and their involment in the build up process, it would help some players like Cleverley gain some confidence and i guess even RvP getting a few goals wouldn't hurt him either.
The other thing is that without Europe and after a disastrous season it would benefit the club if we did well in all three domestic competitions. I understand this is the League Cup but what kind of rotation was that? You want to see if Evans is ready? Fine, play him alongside a younster and Jones who already has played two competitive matches in that formation. Use one of your first team choices at WB and give Kagawa a decent chance to prove himself with Rooney or RvP upfront. Not even Barcelona and Real Madrid do in the first stages of the Spanish cup what we did today.
I'm not going to say anything about Anderson and Powel in midfield. An ex-footballer and a player who would be considered slow even if he played in the 50's. Even if LvG needs more time to assess the squad, Giggs should have said something to him, especially about the CMs choice.
The only thing i can think of as an excuse is that we will focus solely on the PL. Yet, it was an embarrassing night for the club. It feels like all the good mood from signing ADM has vanished in thin air.
I think he knew there was a chance this might happen. He mentioned the injuries. The fact we only played Sunday teatime didn't help either. If we didn't have those injuries he would have been able to put a better side out. Unfortunately he was left with the dregs we want shot of and a pile of kids.
LVG isnt screaming at the players and that's the problem?
Come on people..
I guess it would be better if he would stand there and yelled: "Danny, Danny, Danny!"
Come on people..
I guess it would be better if he would stand there and yelled: "Danny, Danny, Danny!"
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I agree. These three games have actually been the most time wasting but potentially the most valuable games of his reign here. Now he knows who are his better players, who is sh*t and needs to go or go into the reserves. And which youth players are ready step up and which aren't.
A simply as it sounds I think it does make a difference. Trouble is I didn't see anyone on the sideline tonight barking orders etc
3 games have been played.What a sad bunch. Moyes wasn't the problem and it hurts to find out now doesn't it? Well, let's still continue to try rationalize somehow that all this is still his fault.
He is the right man for the job, but he needs to flex his ruthless side in the next week or risk going down the same road as Moyes. Once the players are on the field there's little he can do, and most of our players aren't good enough. Worrying times.
What a sad bunch. Moyes wasn't the problem and it hurts to find out now doesn't it? Well, let's still continue to try rationalize somehow that all this is still his fault.
So you are saying the circumstances of Moyes and LVGs respective appointments are identical?
Moyes inherited a team that had won the league at a canter.
LVG inherited a team which had just endured its worst season in decades and finished 7th.
I havent tried to blame Moyes for the current performances, I am simply acknowledging facts. You can join me if you like.
I think he picked the only side he could. We already have a ridiculously long injury list and he wasn't going to risk any of the players from Sunday so soon. All he needs is some of the genuine first teamers to get injured. That left him with players who either want to leave or are not wanted and kids who need guidance.
Do you see Mourinho shouting and screaming a lot for instance?
Playing a midfield of Powell and Anderson is a big middle finger to whoever is holding up him getting in a couple of proper midfielders. I doubt we'll ever see two of Hernandez-Powell-Anderson on the pitch at the same time ever again. I wouldn't be shocked if all of them leave this week.
Are people actually criticising van Gaal? Feck off..
Whilst the Swansea result was impressive, Chelsea came to OT for a draw and didn't even bother starting with a striker.
That said, I've got no idea what will happen next. I don't think it will be a "deep crisis", though. Just a small one.
No but you do see Jose up out of his seat from time to time when things aren't going well, tonight nor against Swansea/Sunderland did he, Giggsy nor any of the coaching staff get out to rant at a player who maybe wasn't pulling his weight.
Wouldnt make much of it really.
Pre-season is exactly that.
He picked the team and the system so he has to take some of the blame. The players are obviously mostly to blame. The majority of them looked like they didn't give a shite.
Have you not seen our injury list, we played on Sunday and now we are playing 2 days later. If he had picked any of the players that started on Sunday lets say RVP and they got injured what then? The Burnley game is more important, and the team he picked were more than good enough as a starting 11 to win.
He didn't say we wouldn't be signing anyone else. He was asked whether tonight's result made him feel we needed to make more signings (hence the same question as your colleagues part as he was asked this after the Swansea game).
Not shouting and screaming, but he's always there delivering instruction when it is needed. You don't just sit on your arse and watch getting pummelled by a L1 side, without at least getting out there on the line if only to encourage the players if nothing else.
Not sure thats thankfull. You would rather lose away to City and Liverpool and draw with Chelsea than lose to Swansea MK Dons and draw to Sunderland yet still have those big games to come.
I'm not but surely if a player gets a word in his ear it may give him a kick up the backside?
Van Gaal said it himself. He has 9 players injured and the first team played just two days ago against Sunderland. He said after the Sunderland game he would have to make a lot of changes. if we have 9 injured, and we cannot pick the first team, then we must play the youth team.
He would have lost his voice if he yelled at every player who played badly tonight.
Yeh, I wonder how many of them
Playing tonight know they are on the way out?! Not easy to motivate...
Also, we were looking grand until kagawa went off. Nobody seems to of noticed that!!
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