Liverpool in bid to sign wrong Saints star

Suarez, Sturridge, Borini and Lambert is a great set of forwards IMO. I wanted a better forward to be 3rd choice (Lukaku was my dream) but I can see why you wouldn't go for him. Lambert makes sense as he's a very good player, technically sound and he won't upset Sturridge.

alastair said:
No, I'm slating Liverpool here because they've signed someone who cannot play, even as a substitute, for a top side. This argument that they have Suarez and Sturridge so it makes sense to have a solid third choice for squad depth doesn't really wash with me.

Look at your own club. You have RVP and Rooney, with Welbeck and Hernandez as 3rd/4th choice. That's a top four club third choice - a young, up and coming player with a high ceiling ultimately destined to replace one of the current first choices. If they can't, then you make £5-10m and move on.

Rickie Lambert is absolutely incongruous with everything Liverpool currently represent. I have watched him regularly and everything about him is lower level PL player - decent at a lot but not very good at anything except penalties that he won't even take at Liverpool.

What they've signed here is a player who will cost them about £12m all in all including wages, over a two year period, who will contribute very little to the squad and will restrict any younger player from coming through.
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Why can't he? You had Giroud and finished 4th. Look at Chelsea's set of strikers!

If we keep Borini then it'll be Sturridge, Suarez, Lambert and Borini. In any case, two of United's strikers have made noises about being unhappy.
 
alastair said:
Giroud is on another planet to Lambert. Clearly.
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I agree with you here. He doesn't fit with the style of football we saw from Liverpool this season. For one thing, he's not cut out for lightning counters.

Liverpool will feel the difference in quality when he's rotated into the side.
 
Feed Me said:
I agree with you here. He doesn't fit with the style of football we saw from Liverpool this season. For one thing, he's not cut out for lightning counters.

Liverpool will feel the difference in quality when he's rotated into the side.
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It's just such a weird move. If you have to plunder Southampton, take Osvaldo or someone.
 
alastair said:
It's just such a weird move. If you have to plunder Southampton, take Osvaldo or someone.
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Osvaldo? He's a nutcase. At 4mil, this deal cant go wrong. Just a 2yr contract too so they arent going to be stuck with him.
 
How does Lambert fit in with Liverpool's fast, counter-attacking style?

I'm amazed at the reaction to this. I'd be so disappointed in the club if I were a Liverpool fan.
 
alastair said:
How does Lambert fit in with Liverpool's fast, counter-attacking style?

I'm amazed at the reaction to this. I'd be so disappointed in the club if I were a Liverpool fan.
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Southampton's front three work in similar ways. He is capable of more than just being the lone front man. His assists show that. He helps create space for players like Lallana and Rodriguez who are very much at their best at counter attacking and quick football. He is far from a rigid player. Southampton being so fluid up front has a lot to do with him.



Quality through out. He has a lot to his game.
 
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alastair said:
It's just such a weird move. If you have to plunder Southampton, take Osvaldo or someone.
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Sounds strange to say this about someone knackering their knee, but for Saints it's probably good that Rodriguez got injured - 15 league goals this season just gone, he'd have been a more ideal sort of player for Liverpool.

iBoss said:
He does fit with their style though. That's why they moved for him.
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I don't see it. Lambert's got decent technique, but he slows moves down.

I agree with people who say he's risk-free at just £4m and on a 2-year deal, but Liverpool should be looking to seriously improve their squad, not buying in dross. They've made too many of these cut-price moves over the last decade.
 
Feed Me said:
Sounds strange to say this about someone knackering their knee, but for Saints it's probably good that Rodriguez got injured - 15 league goals this season just gone, he'd have been a more ideal sort of player for Liverpool.



I don't see it. Lambert's got decent technique, but he slows moves down.

I agree with people who say he's risk-free at just £4m and on a 2-year deal, but Liverpool should be looking to seriously improve their squad, not buying in dross. They've made too many of these cut-price moves over the last decade.
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He slows down moves if he has to it. He is capable of spinning on it and picking out Rodriguez who is more often than not exploiting that space left by Lambert dropping deeper or pulling wide (you can imagine Sterling/Sturridge doing the same). He isn't necessarily quick but he doesn't have to be to contribute to quick attacks and counters.
 
alastair said:
How does Lambert fit in with Liverpool's fast, counter-attacking style?

I'm amazed at the reaction to this. I'd be so disappointed in the club if I were a Liverpool fan.
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Same way as Coutinho does. He's as 'slow' as Lambert, except Lambert scores more. I'm sure you were arguing (internally) we would never qualify for CL spots with dross like Coutinho two years back.
 
alastair said:
It's just such a weird move. If you have to plunder Southampton, take Osvaldo or someone.
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What are you on about? Osvaldo.. another Italian flop who'd cost more in wages and transfer fee alone. A total headcase that forced a move away from club within 6 months by head butting one of his own teammates. What the feck has he done that warrants more regonition than Lambert? Is it because he's Rickie Lambert and not Ricardo Lambinho?

And you clearly haven't seen enough of him if you think all he's good at is penalties. He's a free kick specialist and is very good and quick thinking with his feet in tight situations, his assist for Lallanas goal v spurs is a clear example of that. He's a good finisher too.
 
Dumbstar said:
Same way as Coutinho does. He's as 'slow' as Lambert, except Lambert scores more. I'm sure you were arguing (internally) we would never qualify for CL spots with dross like Coutinho two years back.
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I remember wondering why Coutinho was let go by Inter but then again, I'd only ever seen him play one ridiculously good game for them against Spurs in the CL.

So you're happy with Lambert then?
 
lambert will do fine filling the role he will be asked to fill.

Unlike Giroud he is not 1st choice. he's 3rd. I don't see why we should we disappointed with a 3rd choice striker on the cheap who will do what we need him to do for 1-2 years when a 3rd choice is all we need for that position.
 
Dumbstar said:
Same way as Coutinho does. He's as 'slow' as Lambert, except Lambert scores more. I'm sure you were arguing (internally) we would never qualify for CL spots with dross like Coutinho two years back.
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coutinho has great pace running with the ball at his feet. Not a good comparison.
 
alastair said:
What is a 3rd choice striker asked to do?

This seems to me to be excusing buying a player of little quality.
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I'm sure this is a wind-up, an Arsenal fan telling me about strikers. So I'll bow out.

@BarneyLFC Coutinho's shimmying wrong foots players and makes him 'appear' faster than he really is. I have lots of 5 a side mates who do the same thing (and Coutinho is a reknown 5 a side professional). He's simply a very good footballer so we overlook things we don't want to see.
 
Dumbstar said:
I'm sure this is a wind-up, an Arsenal fan telling me about strikers. So I'll bow out.

@BarneyLFC Coutinho's shimmying wrong foots players and makes him 'appear' faster than he really is. I have lots of 5 a side mates who do the same thing (and Coutinho is a reknown 5 a side professional). He's simply a very good footballer so we overlook things we don't want to see.
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Tagged the wrong poster mate.

@B20
 
BarneyLFC said:
Suarez, Sturridge, Borini and Lambert is a great set of forwards IMO. I wanted a better forward to be 3rd choice (Lukaku was my dream) but I can see why you wouldn't go for him. Lambert makes sense as he's a very good player, technically sound and he won't upset Sturridge.



Why can't he? You had Giroud and finished 4th. Look at Chelsea's set of strikers!

If we keep Borini then it'll be Sturridge, Suarez, Lambert and Borini. In any case, two of United's strikers have made noises about being unhappy.
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A really weird dream tbh if not completely deluded
 
He will give Liverpool a different option up front. A shrewd bit of business IMO.
 
Smart buy I think. Obviously he's no world beater but he does add good quality depth at a good price. A nice, easy, cheap, low risk buy that will let them quickly move on to strengthening other areas.
 
It makes sense to me as a signing. Definite upgrade on Aspas, gives cover for Sturridge and Suarez in case of tiredness or injury. Could argue that Borini could serve that purpose, but perhaps Rogers doesn't see how he fits into the Liverpool squad. Lambert offers something different in that he's a big man to target up front, but rather than being a Carroll he actually offers good technical play as well.
 
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