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adexkola said:
Are you clued into the details of how every team played? From when Sky invented football... To today? Ok then.

It's not the only factor but of course it matters. You can mitigate it with trophy count, strength of opposition, but if Liverpool won every game in the season and got 38*3 points, that would be a huge outlier relative to every other team.

It's not the only important metric. But it is important. How can Arsenal not losing any game (while drawing 12) not be important yet a measure of how many wins you got (point total) be dismissed?
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Was talking about the champions of each season, not every single team. Like all the different Utd sides that won it. Can't recall points tally's just the way they played and the key moments in those season. We know which ones were the best, despite what the points tally may say.

Utd 1997 got 75 points. A side full of future Treble winners plus Cantona. Are they the worst ever PL champions in your opinion? 75 points, as a black and white stat is poor isn't it. But the reality is different. They were a quality young side which would soon grow into the best around.

That Arsenal side was special. Everyone knew it by watching them play. The 0 defeats - definitely adds to their legacy. & they did it against Fergie's Utd. Although they never retained the title or won in Europe. That counts against them in their claim to be No.1 PL side , more than points & 0 defeats counts for them. If the Invincibles had won the CL and retained the title they could definitely claim to be the best ever.

The only club & manager in PL history to win it 3 times on the bounce (twice) playing great football whilst winning in Europe (with 0 defeats both times) is Ferguson's Utd and that is why they are the best, I don't care what points tally's might say otherwise.
 
The good thing about Klopp is that he is usually able to arrest any mini fatigue slumps, from my memory our fatigue slumps usually come in the middle of the season especially after a training camp or winter break like this season. I expect us to get back to our high-performance levels soon but this season has been especially gruelling as every team we play wants to beat us and that has meant we have had no real let-up apart from Bournemouth and Leicester away.
 
I don't think teams have wanted to win enough actually, there's been far too many performances where whoever Liverpool were playing played like they didn't think they could win, now that invincible factor is dead, things might change.
 
Wumminator said:
we’ve just beat Bruges 5-0 and smashed Watford 3-0.

They’ve lost to a team who can’t even win their own league in Europe and just got battered by Watford.
And people genuinely think they’re better than us? :lol:
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Smashed Watford? They're winning the league in record time, (while we're helping them do it) not really in a mood to "laugh" at them.
We play our own game, but this is the stuff that gets posted online for fans of other teams to laugh at us. We're in no position to mock them. Wait for couple of seasons when Ole works his magic and we're on top again.
 
NewGlory said:
If you are a United fan and you didn't enjoy their lossless streak ending with a 3:0 defeat from fecking Watford, then you need to take a long look in the mirror and ask yourself whether you are a United fan at all.

And that is the only logic anybody can use in this circumstances. The logic of heart.
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There is a difference. I expected it to end, others didn't. Still doesn't make us able to "mock" them. We're not Everton fans ffs
 
Amerifan said:
Closet Liverpool fan outed.
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People keep grieving here we don't have Klopp instead of Ole, and I am the one who is LFC fan? Yeah, right.

I don't envy them, because we have a better club then theirs but I am also not gonna make an idiot of myself, trying to laugh at them when they've beaten us in every possible way this season, except for the cups.
 
GazTheLegend said:
WHO? ME THAT'S feckING WHO

IT'S BRILLIANT HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA WATFORD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And in a time when things are FINALLY looking up from us after 7 dark as feck years?!?!?!??!?!?!?! FANTASTIC.
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Things started to look up at the moment we got Ole in, I am just the one to realize it then and not now when results are finally picking up, as expected by those of us who supported the manager this entire time.
Still not the time to laugh at Liverpool, not publicly anyway.
 
Lawrenson (football expert) predicted Liverpool to draw for first time in 3 years (ok maybe) vs Everton (now postponed). Karma wins
 
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:lol: Serious qs though - how come their impressive run catapulted just like that? I know it's the usual Liverpool in failing but still.. there should be causes.

  • Complacency? Overconfidence? They don't have experience head who have won many things before to maybe keep the players in check/motivated/focus.
  • Players affected by Klopp's comments and decisions in regards to the cups games (because they want to win)?
  • Fitness? But their fitness last season were good.
  • ???
 
Rifer said:
:lol: Serious qs though - how come their impressive run catapulted just like that? I know it's the usual Liverpool in failing but still.. there should be causes.

  • Complacency? Overconfidence? They don't have experience head who have won many things before to maybe keep the players in check/motivated/focus.
  • Players affected by Klopp's comments and decisions in regards to the cups games (because they want to win)?
  • Fitness? But their fitness last season were good.
  • ???
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They weren’t nearly as good as their record suggested, the EPL has been an embarrassment this season with it second weakest league of the past ten years (behind 2016), and they got fortunate fairly enough grinding out come from behind wins but that luck was eventually going to run out.

Still a fantastic team no doubt, but hardly a top 5 All time team or anything
 
Daysleeper said:
They weren’t nearly as good as their record suggested, the EPL has been an embarrassment this season with it second weakest league of the past ten years (behind 2016), and they got fortunate fairly enough grinding out come from behind wins but that luck was eventually going to run out.

Still a fantastic team no doubt, but hardly a top 5 All time team or anything
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This is pretty spot on. Not gonna say it’s like the Leicester 2016 season, because they are better than that Leicester team, but everyone this season is just as shit as the teams outside Leicester in 2016. I’ve been watching them this last few months and I was waiting for them to lose as they were just grinding out wins, not blowing people away like they have done. But they just kept going and going and there’s something to be said for that, but can’t see them winning another title again soon (assuming they do get awarded the title this season)
 
Rifer said:
:lol: Serious qs though - how come their impressive run catapulted just like that? I know it's the usual Liverpool in failing but still.. there should be causes.

  • Complacency? Overconfidence? They don't have experience head who have won many things before to maybe keep the players in check/motivated/focus.
  • Players affected by Klopp's comments and decisions in regards to the cups games (because they want to win)?
  • Fitness? But their fitness last season were good.
  • ???
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Their squad is thin and the amount of games the same 15 or so players played caught up with them.

Liverpool’s most creative player is their RB and as young players go, he has seemed fatigued and been poor recently.

Best Liverpool player is Van Djik and he seemed to have briefly bought too much into his own hype. Still a great player I think and he will probably bounce back to his regular form. For last month or so, he’s been crap though.
 
Matst1 said:
This is pretty spot on. Not gonna say it’s like the Leicester 2016 season, because they are better than that Leicester team, but everyone this season is just as shit as the teams outside Leicester in 2016. I’ve been watching them this last few months and I was waiting for them to lose as they were just grinding out wins, not blowing people away like they have done. But they just kept going and going and there’s something to be said for that, but can’t see them winning another title again soon (assuming they do get awarded the title this season)
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Yeah that’s what I meant, the league is bottom 2 epl leagues with the 2016 year below it. I do think they are one of the 2-3 best epl teams of recent years don’t get me wrong.
 
They've had a lot of luck and their football is functional at best. Very boring for the most part and they probably peaked last season. It could very well be that under Klopp this team has run it's course.
 
mwake said:
The good thing about Klopp is that he is usually able to arrest any mini fatigue slumps, from my memory our fatigue slumps usually come in the middle of the season especially after a training camp or winter break like this season. I expect us to get back to our high-performance levels soon but this season has been especially gruelling as every team we play wants to beat us and that has meant we have had no real let-up apart from Bournemouth and Leicester away.
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Wait, what? How dare they want to beat you!
 
Just seeing this thread again has made me all warm and fuzzy inside.

Squad ultimately to thin and lack of quality in midfield. Imagine if they had Alonso and Gerard in this midfield now....yikes.

Unbelievable run they have been on since city beat them in January 19. I wouldn't be writing them off so quickly however like some of the posts above and I think they will be the team to beat for a couple of years yet as while they have their issues such as lack of squad depth, poor midfield, those issues can be addressed.

Mind you, another big issue for them will be paying their best players the 250k/300k per week that they will inevitably be seeking. So plenty to be optimistic about from it all unravelling point of view.
 
redman5 said:
We only lost one league match last year. Finished on 97 points, & also won the Champions League. Was that down to luck too ? I think we can all agree that the Watford loss was coming. However, I don't think you can just put it down to our 'luck' running out. Steve McLaren probably has it right when he says that Liverpool have become 'subconsciously complacent'. If you look back at our performances over the past couple of seasons you'd be hard pressed to find many games where we've been fortunate to come away from the game unbeaten. Our performance levels have certainly declined the closer we get to securing the title. Plus add on all the hype & talk about us breaking records etc, then it's perfectly understandable why our players have found it difficult to maintain the strong focus they've held for nearly 2 years now. I said a few days ago that the Watford defeat doesn't define us as a team because you can't simply write off everything we've achieved over the past couple of years, & you certainly can't put it down to luck. What will define us though is how we react over the remainder of the season & beyond.
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Good points. I feel that Liverpool had the self belief and conviction that they could always win. Dare i say like Utd had in happier times. Against Watford the fact that league was in the bag coupled with tactics not working unhinged them on the day. I am going to hate it when they cross the line and luck has had a part (As Utd had in the past) but they have been like a machine this season. Epic back 4 is catalyst in my opinion.
 
Thisistheone said:
Was talking about the champions of each season, not every single team. Like all the different Utd sides that won it. Can't recall points tally's just the way they played and the key moments in those season. We know which ones were the best, despite what the points tally may say.

Utd 1997 got 75 points. A side full of future Treble winners plus Cantona. Are they the worst ever PL champions in your opinion? 75 points, as a black and white stat is poor isn't it. But the reality is different. They were a quality young side which would soon grow into the best around.

That Arsenal side was special. Everyone knew it by watching them play. The 0 defeats - definitely adds to their legacy. & they did it against Fergie's Utd. Although they never retained the title or won in Europe. That counts against them in their claim to be No.1 PL side , more than points & 0 defeats counts for them. If the Invincibles had won the CL and retained the title they could definitely claim to be the best ever.

The only club & manager in PL history to win it 3 times on the bounce (twice) playing great football whilst winning in Europe (with 0 defeats both times) is Ferguson's Utd and that is why they are the best, I don't care what points tally's might say otherwise.
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Arsenal cheated their way through at least 4 of those games. Pires dive v Portsmouth for example. Incredible not get beat but you need everything to go your way..
 
They've lost more games this season than in the 08/09 season. So much for being invincibles.
 
And the messiah Van Dijk with a huge mistake to boot. They are slowly and surely starting to regress to their mean after two fantastic years.
 
Thought they were going to shatter the points record. These lot will lose to Chelsea.
 
Eight losses in all competitions for * this season (so far). United’s Treble-winners only lost four in all competitions in 1998/99.

The fecking cheek of these jumped-up pricks comparing a hoofball outfit with the greatest achievement in English club football, achieved with style and panache rarely seen.

Ta-ra, Scousers.
 
Liverpool's logic/character:

a) if getting the record "We got the best PL of all time, this will be remembered for all time, written in gold and red letters, we are Liverpool 19-20 the 102 points Kings"

b) if not getting the record "records mean shit, who cares".

Typical.
 
mwake said:
The good thing about Klopp is that he is usually able to arrest any mini fatigue slumps, from my memory our fatigue slumps usually come in the middle of the season especially after a training camp or winter break like this season. I expect us to get back to our high-performance levels soon but this season has been especially gruelling as every team we play wants to beat us and that has meant we have had no real let-up apart from Bournemouth and Leicester away.
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The 2-3 vs Atlético was the first reality check. Liverpool 20-21 could easily regress to 16-18 standards.
 
It's great that they won't break the points record now.

Only niggle i'm having is, now they have nothing to play for will they give 100% against Chelsea in the next game and do us a favour?

I like to think they will, whether it's us or Chelsea who get top 4, both are big teams and both can can attract top players over the summer with or without Champions League football, so they have nothing to gain. So as far as Liverpool are concerned, all that matters is they finish on a high.
 
Liverpool have played poor for the majority of the season they've just managed to grind results. I think their performance against A Madrid highlights the element of their consistency. If they don't invest within the team for the next two seasons I think they'll begin to regress marginally.
 
Nori- said:
It's great that they won't break the points record now.

Only niggle i'm having is, now they have nothing to play for will they give 100% against Chelsea in the next game and do us a favour?

I like to think they will, whether it's us or Chelsea who get top 4, both are big teams and both can can attract top players over the summer with or without Champions League football, so they have nothing to gain. So as far as Liverpool are concerned, all that matters is they finish on a high.
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Leicester are the team Utd need to beat. Feck Chelsea
 
Chelsea is their final home game where they'll do the trophy presentation, let's hope they're motivated to get a win before the celebrations.

Will be a bit funny if they get hammered and then start celebrating.
 
They certainly will throw against Chelsea now but with their current form it won’t make any difference and we can still get what we need anyway.
 
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