When Klopp fecks off this team are going to implode even further.
Liverpool are a mess
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Thumbs up to that.Two screens
Best of both worlds!
The second Brighton goal was horrific defensively. Lovely goal Welbeck
Apart from Alisson. Nunez is possibly their best player.
They did a terrible job buying midfielders these past couple of years. Everyone creamed themselves over Thiago but in reality he was never what they needed, Liverpool was electric because of the relentless running they could do with that midfield 3. Even with Thiago, the rest of them are way past it or shit. Shocking recruitment to just keep splurging on attackers and ignoring the most integral part of that side.
I'm fascinated by how United and Liverpool seem to be diametrically opposed for the last 20 odd years (or more even). When we're up, they're down and vice-versa, particularly in the league. During their purple patch of recent years we've been nowhere. Now when we start coming back they start falling apart.
I think throughout the entire Premier League era there's only been one season where both teams were genuinely competing with each other for the title - 2008/09 (remember Macheda?). Kind of crazy considering the two clubs have won the most league titles between them by some distance.
When Liverpool were hoovering up league title after league title in the 70s/80s were there many occasions where we challenged with them for the title? (my memory doesn't go back that far)
Is it some weird football voodoo?
I think throughout the entire Premier League era there's only been one season where both teams were genuinely competing with each other for the title - 2008/09 (remember Macheda?). Kind of crazy considering the two clubs have won the most league titles between them by some distance.
When Liverpool were hoovering up league title after league title in the 70s/80s were there many occasions where we challenged with them for the title? (my memory doesn't go back that far)
Is it some weird football voodoo?
I saw this thread while the game was on and fully expected them to turn it around.
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Although I hate them with a passion I feel emotional watching this and would like to show some solidarity. I hope you avoid relegation.
I'm sure Foxestalk and Toffeetalk are also in meltdown. Quite a day really.
Mess - and don’t we just love it!
It's literally just a solid midtable team vs relegation shitters, isn't it?
I didn't expect the shortage of supplies to hit them that hard.
Checks notes: went from 5 CLs to a lifetime safe 6 CLs.
Yep, you're not getting anywhere near that while I'm alive.
Checks notes: went from 5 CLs to a lifetime safe 6 CLs.
Yep, you're not getting anywhere near that while I'm alive.
Clutching at anything right now
Interesting point. We've never faced them in the CL either, have we?
Checks notes: went from 5 CLs to a lifetime safe 6 CLs.
Yep, you're not getting anywhere near that while I'm alive.
They are shite. A sinking ship.
Their net spend is over analysed. They buy cheap squad players and sell them on for huge profits. It’s not like the are forced to sell their star players. The only one that comes to mind was Courthino. The rest were players who were not first team regulars. (Mane wanted to go because he wasn’t offered the contract he thought he deserved)
Don't be so pessimistic mate. I'm sure you've got another decade in youChecks notes: went from 5 CLs to a lifetime safe 6 CLs.
Yep, you're not getting anywhere near that while I'm alive.
You are the greatest team ever in the whole universe.Checks notes: went from 5 CLs to a lifetime safe 6 CLs.
Yep, you're not getting anywhere near that while I'm alive.
Ah, the "six times" response, used even when it's not relevant to the conversation.Checks notes: went from 5 CLs to a lifetime safe 6 CLs.
Yep, you're not getting anywhere near that while I'm alive.
Wasn't this meant to be the era of Liverpool dominance? Or will that glorious resurgence now wait another 30 years?
Its kinda been that way forever, both teams rarely were at the top together bar an odd season here or there, During Liverpools golden 80's period United were struggling.
Of their combined almost 40 league titles only 5 times in history have they made up the leagues top 2. Liverpool have only come runners up to United only once I think (08/09).
Its a weird dynamic that when one is up the other is down throughout history.
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You could have simply said "from winning the mickey mouse cups to this" and that would have made no difference to what you said initially.
That’s all they can fall back on because they won’t match our titles.
Said multiple times here before season even started it will be Klopps last season. Same shit happened at Dortmund and is happening here. Players get worn out by his tactics, other teams figure them out with time and he does not adapt but sticks by his own vision every single game. Even ETH said it in his first press conference when asked about City and Liverpool. They are both very good teams but cycles come to an end he said!
Just to be the party pooper, I would say that we have to enjoy this while it lasts.
Put the engine back into Liverpool's midfield through the purchase of a couple of decent CMs (of which there's plenty on the market) and they become a top proposition again.
Put the engine back into Liverpool's midfield through the purchase of a couple of decent CMs (of which there's plenty on the market) and they become a top proposition again.
At least they got an open bus parade!
So the owners should be digging deeper to back the manager. Thats the issue, their owners cry about not being able to compete but they have a smaller net spend than Wolves, something about that smells rotten to me given they've been at the top of the league for 5 seasons and been in 3 CL finals. Why aren't they spending their money to the same level as say Arsenal?
Checks notes: went from 5 CLs to a lifetime safe 6 CLs.
Yep, you're not getting anywhere near that while I'm alive.
Were you alive when Liverpool won their first 4?
Sexton 79/80 season was fairly close but Liverpool had the advantage all the way after the turn of the year. Finished 60 points to 58. They also had better goal difference.
Docherty 75/76 was tight until late in the season. QPR had slight advantage at end of March but both United and Liverpool had a game in hand. We finished in 3rd. 4 points behind title winners Liverpool.
Atkinson 85/86 we won first 10 League games then collapsed from about November onwards, finishing in 4th, 12 points behind title winners Liverpool. I guess at some stage of the season it may have seemed like a competitive race.
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Liverpool's golden era only led to 1 PL title... and nobody could even celebrate it... back to mediocrity
You know its really bad when you see Scousers bringing out the 'five times, la' line
Liverpool's golden era only led to 1 PL title... and nobody could even celebrate it... back to mediocrity
Klopp probably wouldn’t have bothered if he knew…
They may have dropped off, but at least they'll never walk alone.
Nah once the rot sets in that’s it..klopp won’t be around for the rebuild and top managers unlike midfielders are like hens teeth
sure but you think that’s an easy fix? Klopp can’t seem to do it and he’s one of the best in the world….
Imagine being 10 points clear of Liverpool at the half way point. No one would have predicted at after the first 2 games.
Interesting observation. On a less global scale (I mean more short term) I feel we are taking Liverpool niche in EPL hierarchy.
I've seen us win numbers 3,4,5 and 6.
Don't be so pessimistic mate. I'm sure you've got another decade in you
I was hoping for another 3 decades before my point, or I, expired.