Liverpool 2024-25 | Inevitably winning a..."treble"

I've been very impressed by Slot. He hasn't been naive or done anything stupid, and instead just made a few tweaks to enable this team to go up a level this year, mainly through Gravenberch taking to that 6 role and giving Salah more freedom and highlighting him.
He was in the Cup, but that's about it. Otherwise he's gone about his business very professionally.
 
Klopp is the Shankly and Slott is the Paisley.

All the ground work done by Klopp, for Slott to take the glory.

The only thing that is positive is VVD and Salah are hitting the mid 30s and Trent is definitely leaving. Robertson needs replacing.

Let's see how Slott goes about replacing these players. Won't be easy.
 
I mean the core is the same team they've had since Klopp came in. So... no. If anything it's a final grand finale.
Not sure which point in time you're referring to, but we don't have any players left from when Klopp came in. And even if you only go back to our most successful period under Klopp, both midfield and attack bar Salah have been completely overhauled as well since then.

"Grand finale" in the sense of "some players might be leaving" could indeed be true, but there's no indication that we're gonna fall off a cliff next season like United did after your 12/13 title. Not a certainty that we'll challenge for the title again of course, but a setback like United's is very unlikely imo.
 
He was in the Cup, but that's about it. Otherwise he's gone about his business very professionally.
He made 10 changes in the cup knowing it may not pay off. Going out gives his team a weekend off during a very busy period. It wasn’t naive just a calculated risk with no real downside, other than the minor pain of going out of the cup.
 
He made 10 changes in the cup knowing it may not pay off. Going out gives his team a weekend off during a very busy period. It wasn’t naive just a calculated risk with no real downside, other than the minor pain of going out of the cup.
That's definitely downplaying it for me. Of course it was a calculated risk but not having sufficient difference makers on the bench was not a risk but a mistake, even if only in hindsight.

The FA Cup is also a bigger deal than the League Cup, and we would still be on course for 4 trophies if we had gone through.
 
Not sure which point in time you're referring to, but we don't have any players left from when Klopp came in. And even if you only go back to our most successful period under Klopp, both midfield and attack bar Salah have been completely overhauled as well since then.

"Grand finale" in the sense of "some players might be leaving" could indeed be true, but there's no indication that we're gonna fall off a cliff next season like United did after your 12/13 title. Not a certainty that we'll challenge for the title again of course, but a setback like United's is very unlikely imo.
Gomez was signed the summer before Klopp came in but otherwise yes
 
Gomez was signed the summer before Klopp came in but otherwise yes
Oh yeah, fecking hell he's been at the club for 10 years? Didn't think much further along than our starting eleven at the moment to be fair.

Really hope he scores a goal for us one day, the celebrations will be huge :lol:
 
Not sure which point in time you're referring to, but we don't have any players left from when Klopp came in. And even if you only go back to our most successful period under Klopp, both midfield and attack bar Salah have been completely overhauled as well since then.

"Grand finale" in the sense of "some players might be leaving" could indeed be true, but there's no indication that we're gonna fall off a cliff next season like United did after your 12/13 title. Not a certainty that we'll challenge for the title again of course, but a setback like United's is very unlikely imo.
I'm referring to still having the core of TAA/VVD/Salah/Allisson all still firing this year.

And no I don't mean you'll fall off a cliff, I meant in the sense of it being more towards the end of that core's time as opposed to the quoted post insinuiating it's "just the beginning". Main point being many of the best players in this side have been there and playing at the top level for a long amount of time.
 
I'm referring to still having the core of TAA/VVD/Salah/Allisson all still firing this year.

And no I don't mean you'll fall off a cliff, I meant in the sense of it being more towards the end of that core's time as opposed to the quoted post insinuiating it's "just the beginning". Main point being many of the best players in this side have been there and playing at the top level for a long amount of time.
Yes, I think it makes it all the more sweeter if the old boys can do it, Allison, Robertson, VVD and Salah deserve more than one title. It'll be remembered as a wonderful achievement, pretty much written off by the media and all opposition fans with their age and Klopp leaving. I still think Allison, VVD and Salah have 2 or 3 very good years in them, the way they play and look after themselves. Robertson definitely on a decline.
 
That's definitely downplaying it for me. Of course it was a calculated risk but not having sufficient difference makers on the bench was not a risk but a mistake, even if only in hindsight.

The FA Cup is also a bigger deal than the League Cup, and we would still be on course for 4 trophies if we had gone through.
The FA Cup became the fourth priority once Liverpool reached the final of the League Cup. As for going for four trophies, it’s unrealistic and could scupper the spring fixture schedule. Being out early completely suits Liverpool even if the exit was undignified.

Top of the league, winning the CL group and getting to a domestic final - sometimes it’s worth stepping back and taking in how well the season is going. Plymouth is already a tiny footnote.
 
He made 10 changes in the cup knowing it may not pay off. Going out gives his team a weekend off during a very busy period. It wasn’t naive just a calculated risk with no real downside, other than the minor pain of going out of the cup.
The naivety was from not having proper firepower on the bench. Come on, he's been very good overall, but the management of that FA Cup was poor - he's not the first manager to underestimate FA Cup ties, and that's fine. It's still a mistake of his.
Yes, I think it makes it all the more sweeter if the old boys can do it, Allison, Robertson, VVD and Salah deserve more than one title. It'll be remembered as a wonderful achievement, pretty much written off by the media and all opposition fans with their age and Klopp leaving. I still think Allison, VVD and Salah have 2 or 3 very good years in them, the way they play and look after themselves. Robertson definitely on a decline.
Yes sure, the media is always super harsh on Liverpool.
 
Yes sure, the media is always super harsh on Liverpool.
That’s obviously not what he meant. If you look at the preseason predictions of the pundits, none of them had us as champions, zero. So that’s definitely written off in that sense.
 
The naivety was from not having proper firepower on the bench. Come on, he's been very good overall, but the management of that FA Cup was poor - he's not the first manager to underestimate FA Cup ties, and that's fine. It's still a mistake of his.

Yes sure, the media is always super harsh on Liverpool.
Didn't say they were harsh on Liverpool, it wasn't a harsh prediction to say they wouldn't challenge for the title.
 
Ah right! Then why not be consistent and say media, oppo fans and Liv fans? Because there wasn't a single one of you guys who thought you would be challenging for the title.

Written off gives the impression that people don't see quality in him or the squad, which wasn't the case. There was a general feeling that there would be a phase of adaptation, and that other clubs (mainly Arsenal and City) would be in a better shape to lead a title challenge - the latter has proven to be completely untrue, with both of them stuttering to various degrees, which has made the former irrelevent.