A potential banana skin with Everton, then Wolves at home, then 3 potentially tricky ties of Villa, City and Newcastle to come. Matchday 36 Vs Arsenal could be very interesting!
Liverpool 2024-25 | Inevitable march to the PL title
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Moyes has a terrible record against Liverpool, so I can't see that being a banana skin. City are shite, I expect Liverpool to beat them. Only the other teams look difficult.
Think with 6 (potentially 9) points above Arsenal, those fixtures are not too bad and they'll win most of those games. If Liverpool and Arsenal had same amount of points, then it'd be different. Also Arsenal, while they win most of their games, will (at least) drop as many points as Liverpool. They didn't get a striker and now have Saka, Jesus and Martinelli all out injured, leaving them with less attacking options.
Yea, I don't see this current Arsenal side catching them I'm afraid. They don't have a reliable killer like Salah at the sharp end of the pitch.
The Kopites have been VERY fortunate with injuries compared to their rivals, also with their rivals failing to maintain usual consistency. Arne Slot inherited a very good squad and has had them playing very well thus far, aside from the Plymouth game - Get in Argyle, Get out Liverpool! Hopefully, a few more spanners will be thrown into the works to derail their quest toward more silverware. I prefer them very much off their perch 
Quadruple talk was fun while it last but it's statistically highly improbable.
So many things many things must line up to even get a treble, let alone quadruple.
I bet Liverpool fans would still be pretty happy with EPL and maybe EFL.
UCL has too many unpredictability, the top clubs can beat anybody at any time.
Getting out of FA cup early might actually help them save some legs for UCL, blessings in disguise so to speak.
Considering where the have started season with their heralded manager leaving the dugout and untested replacement coming in.
FSG are miserly bunch but they are quite competent in recruitment department
So many things many things must line up to even get a treble, let alone quadruple.
I bet Liverpool fans would still be pretty happy with EPL and maybe EFL.
UCL has too many unpredictability, the top clubs can beat anybody at any time.
Getting out of FA cup early might actually help them save some legs for UCL, blessings in disguise so to speak.
Considering where the have started season with their heralded manager leaving the dugout and untested replacement coming in.
FSG are miserly bunch but they are quite competent in recruitment department
There are parallels between this season under Slot and the 2019/20 season under Klopp, I feel. I had suspected it a few weeks ago but now, halfway through February, it looks even more comparable.
Both seasons saw them soar to the top of the table in a less-than-stellar Premier League despite playing rather averagely most of the time. The 19/20 campaign was insane in terms of late goals and one-goal victories and, maybe not as obviously at first, this season is shaping up to be the same.
The biggest connection between the two, for me, is how there were/are signs of a slide in late January/early February in both seasons. They were incredibly lucky Covid truncated the ‘19/20 year as they were seriously wobbling in the preceding 3-4 weeks and suffered comprehensive defeats (Watford and Atletico Madrid) in that window.
Under Slot now, they are definitely stumbling over the last number of weeks and have been bailed out by Salah’s luck in front of goal (it was Mane who was their saviour for the entire month of February 2020 with three match-winners). In other years under Klopp, the February-April stretch was, more often than not, their undoing so often. Fingers crossed for another implosion this year…
Both seasons saw them soar to the top of the table in a less-than-stellar Premier League despite playing rather averagely most of the time. The 19/20 campaign was insane in terms of late goals and one-goal victories and, maybe not as obviously at first, this season is shaping up to be the same.
The biggest connection between the two, for me, is how there were/are signs of a slide in late January/early February in both seasons. They were incredibly lucky Covid truncated the ‘19/20 year as they were seriously wobbling in the preceding 3-4 weeks and suffered comprehensive defeats (Watford and Atletico Madrid) in that window.
Under Slot now, they are definitely stumbling over the last number of weeks and have been bailed out by Salah’s luck in front of goal (it was Mane who was their saviour for the entire month of February 2020 with three match-winners). In other years under Klopp, the February-April stretch was, more often than not, their undoing so often. Fingers crossed for another implosion this year…
Whats the situation with new contracts for Salah, VVD and TAA?
They'll all sign
You're sure?
While I'll give you that there are certainly parallels indeed in the sense that we started the season on fire and then hit a rough(ish) patch after the midway point, some of your points are a bit over the top imo.
We were leading the league by 22 points when the Watford defeat occurred. Meaning that we needed 3-4 wins for the remainder of the season to win the league, it was already a done deal once we conceded that first loss. Atlético was definitely not a "comprehensive defeat", we won 1-0 in regulation, even went up 2-0 in ET and only got undone once they scored their away goal and we needed to chase another goal. To frame that as a comprehensive defeat is stretching it imo.
What you call "stumbling" this season can be broken down to a loss in a dead rubber game in Eindhoven, a loss in a two-legged time which eventually didn't cause any damage, and a loss in the FA Cup with a completely different team than our first XI. So results wise, especially when looking at the league, it's not been bad at all, 8 points out of 12 in tough away games at Everton, Bournemouth, Brentford and Forest while winning our home games.
It's true that it's not as convincing anymore as the majority of our games in the beginning of the season though, definitely. Going up 2-0 at home yesterday we should see the game out comfortably instead of almost collapsing like we did, that's pretty much inexcusable but still good to come away with 3 points.
The working theory: Salah and VvD have signed but it’s being kept on the down low to avoid unnecessary speculation and focus on TAA’s situation.
At this point of the 19/20 season we had won 25 out of 26 games, and had 76 out of 78 points. Please correct me if i'm wrong, but Ferguson/Wenger/Pep has never had that amout of points after 2/3 of the season, so it's only in this forum that team can be deemed "incredibly lucky". Won the league by a landslide.
Don't think we are near that level this season tbh, but it might look like we don't have to be.
Behave yourself, before the Watford game, they had won 26 and drawn 1, fair to say that league title was well done
No wonder they have the mentality to drag themselves over the line in some games.
They've got 5 national team captains in their squad.
They've got 5 national team captains in their squad.
Isn't Conor Bradley captain of NI as well?
Not sure it has much to do with it to be honest. Salah, Robertson, Endo, Szoboszlai are just the best footballers of average countries.
Liverpool were twenty-five points ahead of City, who had only ten games left to play, already out of all remaining cups when the lockdowns started, and probably hit their worst form of the season once games'd resumed. In what possible way were they lucky to have Covid?
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Buchan doesn't live in the same reality as others where LFC is concerned.
Wouldnt's speculation end if it were just announced they signed new contracts?
Crazy how much can change over the course of five seasons.
Bournemouth relegated, Villa avoids the drop with 1 point
Soton, Burnley, Sheffield, Wolves all with 50+ points, Leicester 60+ points
If we announce now that Salah and VVD are staying, people would immediately (rightfully or not) assume that TAA is gone because there's no update on him - I think that's what he meant.
Aha, got it. Could be that's it.
For what it's worth I think VVD has signed a new deal, we're still negotiating with Salah, and TAA is gone. Despite being the youngest of the three I think he'd be the one we can afford to lose the most short-term, especially because Bradley has proven to be a very capable and reliable backup.
Still a shame we left it this late though, could've easily asked him about his intentions last offseason and let him sign a new long-term contract so that Madrid would've needed to pay up in order to get him. But can definitely understand that he would like to join Bellingham at Real, given that he has won everything there is to win at Liverpool and he's already achieved legend status at Anfield anyway.
I mean, that post could've been titled "Laziest bait for Scousers. Let's see how many still bite." and you all would've gone after it with all of the righteous indignation you could muster.
I personally find it glorious that even though they were on course for one of the most dominant league titles ever, said trophy is always going to have an asterisk next to it.
I think that's what was meant too, but don't agree with the logic if that is what's happening.
Instead of having speculation around 1 player, we now have speculation around three. Agree though that VVD is most likely to sign, then Mo.
They rarely look that good, but they find a way to win almost every time regardless, which is what title winning teams do.
They're clearly the best team this season, but it's fair to say it's a pretty weak league this year in terms of the top teams. It would be interesting to see how they coped if they were put under any real pressure, but none of the other teams are anywhere near good enough to be able to do that so they'll win it at a canter.
They're clearly the best team this season, but it's fair to say it's a pretty weak league this year in terms of the top teams. It would be interesting to see how they coped if they were put under any real pressure, but none of the other teams are anywhere near good enough to be able to do that so they'll win it at a canter.
I'm assuming that you're referring to our last league title? What do you mean by the asterisk? I honestly don't understand what you mean by that.
United fans think there is an asterisk to it because of covid
The ice fishing is really good this time of year, I hear.
Look's like they are going to match our League Titles record. Would have been devastating if they'd matched our Treble, in the same season too. As it is we are still the only English club to complete the legitimate Treble. Keep your chin up lads.
Man City say hello, or did I miss why theirs wasn't legitimate? I doubt the 115 thing will ever stick, so it's all speculation really.
As it is, I'm 100% certain they fiddled their way to success and did so over a long period and many fiddles - but until it's proven, it doesn't really count what anyone thinks.
I mean, of course it does. We're talking about a silly game of men kicking a ball around. You choose what's important to you and what you think. And I'm sure there's many people who follow this silly game who don't recognise City's "achievements" in the same way as other clubs', because the only way this silly game makes sense is if people follow the same rules. Which they evidently didn't, whether that's decided by the panel or not.
It does. City’s success stinks. Their passage to a treble in 2023 was obviously impressive but it lacked drama, peril and people felt it wasn’t fully deserved based on the way the club has been run.
In 1999 I was appalled by United winning the treble, only made worse by the way they did it. But it was an authentic success that followed years of squad building and toil. City’s treble was achieved under sterile conditions with the ultimate outcome being a bit meh. City’s ongoing success is met with a shrug of the shoulders by most onlookers.
United being top of the tree hurt far more. Similarly, Liverpool doing well is messing with the heads of United fans - a dagger to the heart. But that comes with the entry fee. It’s the risk that comes with caring.
City’s greatest indictment is that people don’t really care that they were really good. Indifference is the greatest insult they will ever suffer.
Evidently didn't, no. Allegedly didn't. Innocent until proven guilty despite the fact everyone and his dog knows full well they're as bent as a Canada Moose coat.
City obviously dodgy book-keeping for years, but the 115 has nothing to do with their treble winning season which like it or not, was legit
The cheating in the past got them into the position to win the treble. They may not have broken any rules in the treble season but that's because they'd been breaking the rules systemically for years leading up to it.
no need to be so bitter, just appreciate your 99 treble which was fantastic, as was City's
Newcastle (1995/96) are the only side in Premier League history who have failed to win the title after having a lead of seven or more points after 25 games
If only Liverpool had a challenger like Man United with the like of Cantona,Cole,Giggs,Keane,Beckham etc in their ranks chasing them instead of the current Arsenal team with no striker and managed by Arteta.
If only Liverpool had a challenger like Man United with the like of Cantona,Cole,Giggs,Keane,Beckham etc in their ranks chasing them instead of the current Arsenal team with no striker and managed by Arteta.
Their “treble” was not fantastic whatsoever.