BeforeKeanetherewasRobson
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Ahuh, I meant not replying to the previous poster.Why would a Liverpool manager deserve CL?
Ahuh, I meant not replying to the previous poster.Why would a Liverpool manager deserve CL?
Aha sorry. Yes, amazing post, isnt it?Ahuh, I meant not replying to the previous poster.
If "amazing" = "banned", yes.Aha sorry. Yes, amazing post, isnt it?
Problem is we simply will never go out and spend 75m on a cb or 60 odd on a keeper, the club just won't do that. Nor would they pay the kind of wages those two are on.
I wasn't crying you weirdo, I was just pointing out that we straight up won't do it as a club. Levy isn't about to change the habit of a lifetime and sanction 75m on a CB and pay him 200k a week. You can do that because you have significantly more revenue and can afford a significantly higher wage bill.
Van Djik and Alisson would never have joined Spurs, unless we drastically changed our wage structure .. which will not happen.
Spurs are big and can be bigger. Your owner(s) are the ones keeping you at mid table size level. The ground will help but wage structure change will help infinitely.
Otherwise after Poch expect a few more Ramos level managers and top 4 obscurity again.
I don't like it that I'm not supposed to be outraged at something just because a bunch of assholes who happen to support the same club as I do, did something terrible 30 odd years ago. Or because some cnuts can't help themselves to sing about Munich. Both of those are just idiots being idiots rather than Liverpool fans being Liverpool fans in my view. I don't condone any of those song being sang wherever it may be, but I shouldn't need to apologize because it happened either or I shouldn't refrain from telling how I feel about X or Y song just because people who also support Liverpool have been in the wrong too in the past.OK, it's not a nice song obviously. But...
I thought the booing of Sterling has always been excessive. And then who was it done the bottling of the bus?
Now we have the outrage spin that this is all disgracefully unfair retaliation somehow. That's mainly my view anyway.
It doesn't make City look great but it's like X & Y is OK but Z isn't. Bit too convenient coming from where they sang the Munich song with great enthusiasm & vast numbers for 15-20 years, but now pretend that they didn't.
I don't suppose anyone in football ever admits responsibility for anything, tbh. But you definitely never really hear Liverpool Football Club ever encouraging less scally-esque behaviour from their fans. Everyone glories in it, isn't it?
Liverpool have a lot of catching up to do with United .. you better get going quickly, because they won't be inept forever.
Fair one. Just read the full lyrics on the Echo website...
"Crying in the stands, battered on the streets
Kompany injured Salah, victims of it all"
are just two of the lines. Horrible fecking club
I don't like it that I'm not supposed to be outraged at something just because a bunch of assholes who happen to support the same club as I do, did something terrible 30 odd years ago. Or because some cnuts can't help themselves to sing about Munich. Both of those are just idiots being idiots rather than Liverpool fans being Liverpool fans in my view. I don't condone any of those song being sang wherever it may be, but I shouldn't need to apologize because it happened either or I shouldn't refrain from telling how I feel about X or Y song just because people who also support Liverpool have been in the wrong too in the past.
That said, the collective outrage is once again way OTT as far as I'm concerned. It's a few football players singing a fecking song they picked up somewhere, 99% of them most probably oblivious about whatever it may mean. I'm pretty sure they don't know it refers (allegedly?) to Sean Cox and I'm pretty sure they don't even know who Sean Cox is in the first place. I'd be surprised if they had that kind of awareness, maybe the likes of Kompany and Sterling might have but your average footballer, no way in hell. So take offence to it all you want, but I doubt they meant it in a malicious way since I'd give them the benefit of the doubt that they're all at least good (or decent) people at heart. Just like with the Ronaldo plane picture just after Sala's death - they just don't know or don't care about the outside world like most "regular" people do. You can blame them for their ignorance but they're not singing that particular song because they have the intention to mock Sean Cox ffs.
It's just a bunch of butt-hurt Liverpool fans taking offence to whatever they can right now to paint the City players in a bad light, and they should just be ignored. Let them have their fun and move the feck on, we have way more exciting things to look forward to in the near future instead of getting wound up and thinking the world revolves around us.
Crying in the stands is legit banter, I notice you left the Kiev line out of it and battered on the streets is nothing to do with Sean Cox. It's to do with Kiev and the fighting there.
Kompany injured Salah is a joke as Kompany missed the tackle and Mo was fine but the media and the usual Rawk victims had a good cry about it. It's completely tongue in cheek with regards to the Kompany incident because the actual original version of the song was about Ramos injuring Mo. The entire song is about Kiev, nothing to do with Sean Cox.
For a club whose supporters managed to kill 39 Juve fans, got English football banned out of Europe, regularly sing about Munich, attacked a bus containing said players not 18 months ago and whose official twitter tweeted about Munich you guys need to grow a pair.
The victim line is hugely appropriate given posts like this. Great at dishing it out but always the victims and first to go crying when some minor thing happens in return. I should add not all Liverpool fans, some are great.
Full song based on last season for clarity:
“All the way to Kiev
To end up in defeat
Crying in the stands
And battered on the streets
Ramos injured Salah
Victims of it all
Sterling won the double
The scousers won feck all
Allez Allez Allez"
Is this true?
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/aug/30/liverpool-twitter-munich-air-disaster
They basically asked for songs to play at the game, some fan suggested 3 nasty ones and the club twitter said something like they are always on the official playlist or something. It's in the article which I haven't read in awhile.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/aug/30/liverpool-twitter-munich-air-disaster
They basically asked for songs to play at the game, some fan suggested 3 nasty ones and the club twitter said something like they are always on the official playlist or something. It's in the article which I haven't read in awhile.
Not really. Not claiming to be a victim, merely saw something that I disagreed with and commented on it. I've done the same about Liverpool and some of our 'fans' as well.Crying in the stands is legit banter, I notice you left the Kiev line out of it and battered on the streets is nothing to do with Sean Cox. It's to do with Kiev and the fighting there.
Kompany injured Salah is a joke as Kompany missed the tackle and Mo was fine but the media and the usual Rawk victims had a good cry about it. It's completely tongue in cheek with regards to the Kompany incident because the actual original version of the song was about Ramos injuring Mo. The entire song is about Kiev, nothing to do with Sean Cox.
For a club whose supporters managed to kill 39 Juve fans, got English football banned out of Europe, regularly sing about Munich, attacked a bus containing said players not 18 months ago and whose official twitter tweeted about Munich you guys need to grow a pair.
The victim line is hugely appropriate given posts like this. Great at dishing it out but always the victims and first to go crying when some minor thing happens in return. I should add not all Liverpool fans, some are great.
Full song based on last season for clarity:
“All the way to Kiev
To end up in defeat
Crying in the stands
And battered on the streets
Ramos injured Salah
Victims of it all
Sterling won the double
The scousers won feck all
Allez Allez Allez"
Crying in the stands is legit banter, I notice you left the Kiev line out of it and battered on the streets is nothing to do with Sean Cox. It's to do with Kiev and the fighting there.
Kompany injured Salah is a joke as Kompany missed the tackle and Mo was fine but the media and the usual Rawk victims had a good cry about it. It's completely tongue in cheek with regards to the Kompany incident because the actual original version of the song was about Ramos injuring Mo. The entire song is about Kiev, nothing to do with Sean Cox.
For a club whose supporters managed to kill 39 Juve fans, got English football banned out of Europe, regularly sing about Munich, attacked a bus containing said players not 18 months ago and whose official twitter tweeted about Munich you guys need to grow a pair.
The victim line is hugely appropriate given posts like this. Great at dishing it out but always the victims and first to go crying when some minor thing happens in return. I should add not all Liverpool fans, some are great.
Full song based on last season for clarity:
“All the way to Kiev
To end up in defeat
Crying in the stands
And battered on the streets
Ramos injured Salah
Victims of it all
Sterling won the double
The scousers won feck all
Allez Allez Allez"
Fully agree with this post. The City song isn't about Sean Cox, but I can see how it could be taken the wrong way, which means it's not a great look for the City players. But the thought that Nico Otamendi etc. know who Sean Cox is and have gone out his way to maliciously belittle him on camera is absolutely ridiculous in my opinion. They're just mindlessly regurgitating a song they've heard about a team they've fought tooth and nail against for the past 9 months or so.
OK, giving you the benefit of the doubt re Sean Cox. How would you feel if Liverpool fans - & some players - sang about a Liverpool player injuring a City player, & also City fans getting 'battered in the streets' at a cup final. I'm pretty sure people on here would have plenty to say about it. Instead we see deflection in the shape of Heysel, & an incident relating to the LFC twitter account from over 5 years ago. My feeling is, players shouldn't get involved in gutter tribalism. We saw it in the 2008 CL final when some United players celebrated by singing about winning it 3 times without killing anyone. There's nothing wrong with celebrating your success, but you need to understand that what the City players have effectively done is to ridicule a team that took them all the way in the title race. In this age of ultra-professionalism in football, their actions were in no way professional.
Not really. Not claiming to be a victim, merely saw something that I disagreed with and commented on it. I've done the same about Liverpool and some of our 'fans' as well.
OK, giving you the benefit of the doubt re Sean Cox. How would you feel if Liverpool fans - & some players - sang about a Liverpool player injuring a City player, & also City fans getting 'battered in the streets' at a cup final. I'm pretty sure people on here would have plenty to say about it. Instead we see deflection in the shape of Heysel, & an incident relating to the LFC twitter account from over 5 years ago. My feeling is, players shouldn't get involved in gutter tribalism. We saw it in the 2008 CL final when some United players celebrated by singing about winning it 3 times without killing anyone. There's nothing wrong with celebrating your success, but you need to understand that what the City players have effectively done is to ridicule a team that took them all the way in the title race. In this age of ultra-professionalism in football, their actions were in no way professional.
I'm not remotely upset at the words to that song.
I'm more somewhat embarrassed for you all, that after becoming the first team to win back to back league titles in a decade, your fans, and your players only want to sing about Liverpool losing a Champions League final 12 months ago.
Desperate for a rival that will never view you as a rival.
We're not trying to claim you a rival, the players are singing about the club whose supporters attacked them just over a year ago. Rubbing it in a bit. You're not a rival to us, we sang park the bus last season after United, Jesse Lingard sang about us upon winning the EL. Jack Wilshere sang about Spurs. It's footballers singing a song, drunk after winning a title.
I don't think City give a feck about how Liverpool see them, nor do our support. You were a rival in the league this season, just like 13/14. Other than that, we genuinely couldn't give a feck about Liverpool tbh (though I do hope Spurs turn you over in the CL). If Chelsea are our challengers next season and Liverpool fall off the pace, they'll be our rivals for the season.
Putting yourselves on a pedestal again.. personally you are one of 18 clubs in the PL who mean feck all to us. This title win was possibly sweeter to the players and fans because of the bus attack but when you aren't directly competing with us in a title race we couldn't give a shit about you.
Not really true.
I literally have never heard Liverpool fans sing about another team other than when we're actually playing them though.
Utd and Everton fans regularly sang about Liverpool in the past when playing unrelated teams, Everton fans waving City flags and singing Blue Moon when playing Spurs ffs.
City appear to be attempting to join the rivalry, they're like the fat kid in the playground who no-one wants in their team.
It is no secret that there is very little love lost between the cities of Liverpool and Manchester, especially not when it comes to football. So perhaps it should not come as a surprise that Liverpool fans have gone to the effort of thanking Rangers fans for rioting in Manchester city centre during last season’s Uefa Cup Final. This banner was on display when Liverpool played Rangers at Ibrox on Saturday.
Not really true.
I literally have never heard Liverpool fans sing about another team other than when we're actually playing them though.
Utd and Everton fans regularly sang about Liverpool in the past when playing unrelated teams, Everton fans waving City flags and singing Blue Moon when playing Spurs ffs.
City appear to be attempting to join the rivalry, they're like the fat kid in the playground who no-one wants in their team.
It's always incredible to see Liverpool fans living in a bubble where they're convinced that they're the bestest fans in the world.
I'm not claiming that, but you know that dont you?
The video above your post is despicable and embarrassing, the vast majority of reds would agree with this.
I'm not claiming that, but you know that dont you?
The video above your post is despicable and embarrassing, the vast majority of reds would agree with this.
Well you did say that Liverpool fans don't sing about others..presumably from an imaginary moral high ground.
So Liverpool fans are like any other fans. "We don't sing about others" is just nonsense.
What I said was, I have never heard Liverpool fans sing about another team other than when we're actually playing them.
Your producing of a video doesn't change that.
Nor does it change my views that Utd, Everton and now City sing about Liverpool when playing any other random team.
It's not me saying we're better, or dont have a section of shithouses in our fan base, it's just an observation.
What the feck? That's like saying racism doesn't exist because you've never experienced it in real life.What I said was, I have never heard Liverpool fans sing about another team other than when we're actually playing them.
Your producing of a video doesn't change that.
So there was a Liverpool vs Manutd game when Liverpool fans chanted munich in the video above?
What the feck? That's like saying racism doesn't exist because you've never experienced it in real life.
Now you are just being purposely obtuse.
Have you even been to a Liverpool match?