Liverpool 2018/19
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Klopp is ahead of Guardiola in the CL stakes, and still ahead right now in the PL too. Hell, he could still win the double. If that happens, I don't think Guardiola will be branded a failure, as everyone is recognising what they have both done this season is massive.
The difference that oil money makes
Before he was injured he was terrific for us. He had a slow start, but that was expected, Klopp demands a lot from his midfield, but eventually he became a consistent performer until he got injured.
Even heard Arsenal fans say "Why didn't he play like that for us."
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Tbf to Klopp, yes he has spent a lot of money but that's partially because of the Coutinho fee. His offensive depth still is underwhelming with the likes of Shaqiri, Sturridge, Origi, Lallana. That front three of Salah, Firmino and Mane managed to remajn relatively injury-free this season which was fortunate, but if any of the 3 was out for as long as KdB, they wouldn't have amassed this amount of points.
Out of curiosity, exactly how many collective games have those three missed through injury in their (almost) two seasons together? Two? Three?
It’s preposterous how lucky they’ve been with injuries, and even more so when you consider the pressing game they play. On balance, they should be missing far more games over the course of a season.
Is injuries all about luck though? None of those three are injury plagued players, unlike guys like Gomez and Lallana who will always suffer from major injuries from time to time.
[QUOTE Tbf to Klopp, yes he has spent a lot of money but that's partially because of the Coutinho fee. His offensive depth still is underwhelming with the likes of Shaqiri, Sturridge, Origi, Lallana.[/QUOTE]
Out of the four , he only bought one, he inherited the others.
Out of the four , he only bought one, he inherited the others.
We finished 8th in Klopp's first season in charge. & if you look at the squad he inherited you'll probably say 8th was about right. Having lost the likes of Suarez & Sterling, plus the retirement of Gerrard, & with Sturridge becoming something of a injury hit liability, the only regular top class player we had was Coutinho. He too would be another one who'd jump ship when Barca came calling. So this team that finished one place below West Ham, & 5 places behind your Spurs side, is now challenging for the title with a points total in the 90's, & you make it sound like it's mainly down to money. Let's not forget that United have had 2 experienced, very successful, managers in charge with LVG & Jose. Yet despite both being given generous funds to improve things, neither of them did. You might be thinking that if your man Poch was handed £170 million during the summer he'd have Spurs up there with us & City. But the difference is, Klopp was given the money, & he has proven that he can build a very strong, competitive side. So until Levy does something similar, & until/unless your manager does elevate your Tottenham side to the top tier by using those funds wisely, you don't really have much of case. Because considering the relative strength of the other teams in the top 6, & considering how far behind we were just a few short years ago, I'd say that what our guy has done, all things considered, is nothing short of miraculous. We might have spent a lot of money getting to where we are, but a lot of money was needed, anybody could see that. If Daniel Levy believed for one minute that simply handing your manager £150+ million next summer to buy players thinking it would guarantee to have Spurs competing for major honours next season & beyond, then I'm pretty sure he'd do it. But he's a shrewd cookie who's seen first hand how easy it is to blow large sums of money on players who don't improve things. He's also witnessed Manchester United spend well in excess of half a billion pounds over the past 5 or 6 years & create a worse side. So yeah, money helps. But having the right people in charge to spend it is just as crucial. We have that now at Liverpool. Can you say the same about your club ? I don't think you can.
Imagine getting 97 points (which would have been a PL record before last season) and still finishing 2nd 
Poor bastards.
Literally always the bridesmaid
Poor bastards.
Literally always the bridesmaid
Some people think it will be somewhat harsh and quite incredible that Liverpool finish on 97 points and still not win the title.
I am not one of those people.
I am not one of those people.
I think VAR will feck them hard next season. This is their one and only chance to win the PL. They'll never get this close again.
(10 Man) Manchester United Reserves 0-0 Liverpool
The result - and weekend - which will ultimately cost Klopp the title.
The result - and weekend - which will ultimately cost Klopp the title.
They will never do this again over the next 10 years. Never. How unlucky can you be be as a club, we’re at our absolute worst and by the time we come back they still probably won’t have won a title.
Associate champions, la.
It must be sooo annoying to not win the title with possibly 97 points.
Real Madrid had lost it in 09/10 with 96 points. Incredible season as well. Xavi sealed it with a masterclass in the Bernabeu in one of the last matchdays.
Real Madrid had lost it in 09/10 with 96 points. Incredible season as well. Xavi sealed it with a masterclass in the Bernabeu in one of the last matchdays.
(10 Man) Manchester United Reserves 0-0 Liverpool
The result - and weekend - which will ultimately cost Klopp the title.
Reserves
who was missing out of your line up?There are still two games to go. Let's not count all our chickens just yet. Unlikely, yes, but funnier things have happened.
Newcastle is going to end Liverpool hopes!!
Reserves
We were missing loads from the first-team squad that day, and suffered four first-half injuries - making three substitutions, which meant Rashford had to play the rest of the match on one leg. It couldn’t have been a better time for your lot to show some backbone at Old Trafford and win a pivotal game, but alas, you shit the bed and City will now win the title by a point.
We were missing loads from the first-team squad that day, and suffered four first-half injuries - making three substitutions, which meant Rashford had to play the rest of the match on one leg. It couldn’t have been a better time for your lot to show some backbone at Old Trafford and win a pivotal game, but alas, you shit the bed and City will now win the title by a point.
You weren't missing loads at all. Name the players if it's loads, should be easy. We always shit the bed at Old Trafford anyway.
Martial and Matic injured and Mata, Herrera and Lingard all subbed off injured in the first half.
It's easy to look back with hindsight but you really ought to have gone for us. You only have to look at our defence since to see we were vulnerable.
(10 Man) Manchester United Reserves 0-0 Liverpool
The result - and weekend - which will ultimately cost Klopp the title.
Same can be said about Leicester, West ham and even Everton games.
I find it weird how desperate you guys are trying to find reasons you made us lose the title.
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The last two games which you dropped points in were against Manchester United and Everton.
That must sting.
The last two games which you dropped points in were against Manchester United and Everton.
That must sting.
Nah its the games against Leicester and West Ham which are the ones that are hard to take. Our record at Old Trafford is terrible so a point is never bad no matter what the situation. City are the best team in the league and will be worthy winners. Barring a shedload of injuries they will likely win it again next season.
To think all the years it's took them to finally get above us and be good enough to challenge for the title and they end up getting outdone by our little blue neighbours. It's almost cruel.
The last two games which you dropped points in were against Manchester United and Everton.
That must sting.
Not even a decent WUM. Utd should have beaten City, instead of celebrating the loss, and you'd be favourites for CL football. Or City shouldn't have lost to Newcastle then Pep would have been further ahead of us and wouldn't have had to de-prioritise Spurs first leg thus still be on for a quadruple. We could go on.
Wouldnt be so quick to write them off,we said that about the champions league but they could still win it.
City didn't look great today & Leicester looked quite good.
They also miss Fernandinho & KDB a lot.
Not over yet, imo.
They also miss Fernandinho & KDB a lot.
Not over yet, imo.
The last two games which you dropped points in were against Manchester United and Everton.
That must sting.
So even by you own logic, the "we stopped liverpool winning the league" trophy should belong to Everton fans, not you, should we end up second. It is something to be proud of tbh, I'll give them that.
Good, it will fit nicely alongside Liverpool's "we almost won the league" and "moral/neutral champions" trophies.
Of course should of went it in both games. But we're rarely successful at Goodison and even less so at Old Trafford unless it's Moyes!
But no way were you "playing your reserves" what one United poster said it was a team full of first team players or squad players.
The last two games which you dropped points in were against Manchester United and Everton.
That must sting.
And watching City and Liverpool battle it out for the title feels how? Not to mention the current state of United and you've got Europa league football to look forward to next year by the looks of it.
I think Wolves will spoil liverpool's chances on last day of the season.
I can’t quantifying how much joy I would experience watching their necrophiliac love Rafa deny them the title.
However, a former white-toothed bullshit merchant, as opposed to their current model, could still play a huge hand in things as his lot play City.
However, a former white-toothed bullshit merchant, as opposed to their current model, could still play a huge hand in things as his lot play City.
I think City will spoil our chances of winning the title
Time to face facts. If we end up on 97 points and not win the title, losing by ONE point to the most successful side in PL history, this is by no means an unsuccessful season by any stretch of the imagination. We've the highest points tally of any club other than Man City, and any other season we would have run away with this title, because the rest of the shower below us are nowhere near as good any more.
Couple that with yet another possible CL final, (and maybe even win that trophy), and this season looks just as good as City's.
What you and every other team (except City) should be worried about is many years of domination between both Liverpool and City from now on, as the gulf in class is becoming very apparent. We are in a mini league of our own now, and it may be too difficult for other clubs to reach both teams. This doesn't feel like a Rogers one-off season fluke anymore. It feels like Klopp is building a new dynasty here, and we will only get better next season, not worse. Liverpool are back, and its hurting everyone around us.
You have had one "good" season in 15 years. We had 25 great seasons in 30 years.
Enjoy the ride.....it's fecking awesome!
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