Liverpool 2018/19
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That was my post on Dec 13th.
Seems like the Scousers I was chatting to were spot on.
https://www.eurosport.co.uk/footbal...lping-their-title-push_sto5994837/story.shtml
This article is from exactly 2 years ago. It highlights how Klopp was trying to get his defenders to 'think' their way out of trouble. I reckon he's made some excellent progress on that score, although you suspect Lovren still needs some after-school tutoring on his decision making.
This article is from exactly 2 years ago. It highlights how Klopp was trying to get his defenders to 'think' their way out of trouble. I reckon he's made some excellent progress on that score, although you suspect Lovren still needs some after-school tutoring on his decision making.
Has Lovren made a single mistake leading to a goal this season? I don't believe so. His early days at the club really have tainted fan perception of the player. It borders on weird sometimes.
have you seen his last couple of games? Been lucky to get away with it.
You beauty. Thanks mate!
I hope the pressure makes them crumble and terrify them instead of transcending them. Transcending under pressure, that's a United stuff
. I hate the idea of Liverpool winning the league, it's just not right, but all I can hope is for United to win the remaining games and see what position they will be with that. Yes, I am crazy, I know.Anyone who wishes misfortune to a rival at the expense of your own club's success must be a very bitter and unhappy person.
Top 4 isn't success. Liverpool win the league, we win the champions league is a different question entirely.
I don't think you are getting the levels of misfortune vs the level of success we are talking about here.
Or just...a normal football fan?
I try to be pretty objective generally when I can but there is no point denying that football is ultimately a tribal sport. This thing now about everything only being about your club or clapping your fiercest rivals on the back for a good achievement is nonsense.
If Arsenal get relegated, I won't be sitting there sad that a 'great' club got relegated. I'll be laughing my ass off.
Jesus christ, some of the people on here when it comes to City or Liverpool are so bloody strange.
Liverpool winning the league would be a disaster for most Man Utd fans and ultimately a bit of a disaster for any of us who consume UK based sports media.
You got that right.
The likes of Graeme Souness, Steve Mcmanaman, Jamie Carragher, Jamie Redknapp and Phil fecking Thompson will make our lives a living hell.
Quite how I'm going to get through this summer without physically assaulting my TV with a sledgehammer is anyone's guess.
Just hand them the trophy during the New Year's eve.
Greatest prem side of all time. Did the invincibles in half the time.
Well since you correctly predicted France won the WCRussia2018, would you mind give another prediction on who you think will win this season premiere league?
No, I'm not a Liverpool fan, and obviously I don't want them to win. But I do wish them good luck, because may the *best* team win, and perhaps they are the best team in this "specific" season. Perhaps this is finally their year, after like 28 years or so super long wait right?
I feel that if they (Liverpool) win tomorrow Arsenal game, and win the ManCity game, I think the title is theirs.
They 6 points clear, meaning they can lost two games and still be on top. I doubt that they will lost to Spurs, doubt it, but even if they would, they still 3 points clear.
I would call if if they win Man City in 1/3. Given they will beat Arsenal tomrorow ofcourse.
We simply have to win the Champions League if these win the PL.
Which isn't happening. We just have to take it on the chin. We've been incredibly fortunate to support a club that has swept all before them for ages now while our biggest rivals clown about in our shadow. They had to win the league at some point.
I choose option 2. To me there is no difference in 4th and 5th. I don't care about getting top 4, never have and never will. The question you ask is basically a variation on "would you prefer Liverpool to win the league and United win nothing or both teams win nothing?".
Every other PL team that has won the CL other than us have been crap too. In fact, neither finished in the top 4 the same season.
Long shot of course, but possible.
I do understand you though, I have been trying to prep myself for the probability of what you said.
Manchester United is one of those teams, like Barcelona and Juventus, who can only win the CL if they are also winning the league.
Teams like Real Madrid, Milan and Liverpool are competitive in the CL even when they are failing in the league.
This.
It's not easy, specially for those who live in close proximity to Liverpool fans
My colleague has been annoying me this entire season, if they don't win the PL, he's done!Let's face it, this season we've all been very bitter and unhappy people until last week. However, Liverpool winning the league coinciding with our own fall from greatness, would be like a temporary throwback to the 80s. Those who lived through the liverpool dominance of the 70s and 80s, will remember how rotten it was. I remember when we got beat 2:0 by liverpool in 1992, which ended our chances of winning the league, and the kopp was singing "you'll never win the league". We went on to win it 13 times in 20 years, and the fortunes were reversed. We'd like to keep it this way
Its a different era to when Liverpool won it and much harder to see an underdog story.
Back then a good coach could if he got his tactics spot on stifle the best teams with merely good teams as what Rafa did in 2005, as good as the very best teams were the sheer intensity wasn't as much as the modern day so a Rafa's Liverpool could slow the pace of the game down to a speed that suited. As incredible as the were Jose's Chelsea or Milan wouldn't press and strangle the life out of the lesser sides like the current elite do, which makes it all the more harder for the underdog (which United are in current play) compared to mid 00's.
The only underdog side that have really competed well at the top end consistently in this decade are Atletico.
That's right. Liverpool winning the league is like trying to take the ring to mordor for their fans. 28 years of misery which all of us wouldn't mind extended.
Top class defenders go season after season without making the sort of mistakes that Lovren makes. Don't get me wrong, I think he's more than good enough to be an important part of our squad. But the fear is always there he'll have a brainfart, sooner, rather than later. & that's why I mentioned him in relation to the article I posted. Those 'brainfarts' are generally down to his decision making. A perfect example was his horror show against Spurs last season when we lost 4-1. He's 29 now so it's not like he's a young kid who'll get better with experience. These lapses are part of his make-up, & that's what prevents him from becoming the 'world-class defender' he believes he is.
Well, doh, I'll be bitter and unhappy.
Not for long, but still.
Although, I do agree with your point, and would prefer people would look at United more than others. Then again, top 4 is not something you should strive for. Losers talk, go for title, or whatever.
Not for long, but still.
Although, I do agree with your point, and would prefer people would look at United more than others. Then again, top 4 is not something you should strive for. Losers talk, go for title, or whatever.
I'm not sure if you've seen the article, but Pochettino vehemently disagrees: https://www.beinsports.com/us/premi...asing-spurs-cant-be-compared-to-atl-2/1069674
You’re right. I noticed how you only mentioning Liverpool in 2005 and ignoring the other team, who finished 6th when they won in 2012
But of course, I don’t expect us to do it anyway but this is a funny old game. After all, Liverpool got to the final last year and finished 4th right?
Of course it is. It's CL football. Rather that than the EL or no European football at all.
I don't get the view diminishing the achievement of reaching the CL. Sure, it's no trophy, but it is a stepping stone back to the big time. You can't compete for the big trophies if you're not in the competition to start with.
I just hope it won't be a start of a long term domination.
We need to get out act together fast cause City is useless as always.
We need to get out act together fast cause City is useless as always.
Spot on
It's not an achievement, especially for United. It might bring complacency, and you become Arsenal.
If it happens, great, but it's not something we should strive for before the season.
Of course reaching the CL is an achievement. I have no idea of your age but younger Utd fans have grown up with a sense of entitlement regarding Utd and success. Much as many Liverpool fans had - and some still have - after our successes in 70s/80s. Utd are now back in the pack and need to walk before they can run. And reaching the CL is a step in the right direction. If you asked any Utd player whether they'd rather play in the CL or EL, what answer would you expect?
I do get what you're saying regarding celebrating a 4th place finish, though. But this is where Utd are at for now. Obviously Utd's ultimate ambitions are considerably higher but they've also got to be realistic. It would be a heck of an achievement to finish in the top 4 from here and your man, OGS, has already stated it as an aim, and your manager next season will do the same. If Liverpool don't win the league (and I still think City will), I'd be bitterly disappointed if we somehow contrived to miss out on CL qualification.
Yeah, I picked France to win the world cup because United's two most influential players, Martial and Pogba, represent them. Just in case you were under the false illusion that I have any idea what I'm talking about.
Liverpool have already won the league, I'm afraid. The victory parade is currently underway as we speak.
28 years is a long time, as you say, but not nearly long enough.
The Spurs game was bad, but it was 15 months ago now. Since then he's played an integral part in making a CL final, World Cup final and featured in a defence which has conceded the least goals ever in the first half of a premier league season. He might not be Maldini but the evidence points towards him being a pretty good defender - yet some refer to him still as if he is Titus Bramble reincarnate.
It was meant to happen sooner or later.
After being TOTALLY overshadowed by Man Utd, Arsenal and Chelsea in 1991-2006, the 2005 ChL winners was a comeback. Then came 2008-09 and 2013-14. They were that close.
And finally this season they are benefiting from Chelsea and Arsenal having inexperienced new managers, Mou's villanous meltdown and City being lottery winners without franchise winning mentality (no Pepus, City is not Barça or Bayern, you should have signed for United) and who already said it all in 2017-18 (plus injuries).
So most likely they will win it, the "Klopp League" (with the Spurs finishing 2nd?).
Man the feck up and move on. If you don't like it, imagine being a Barça fan and watching Madrid win three consecutive ChLeagues with physical football, refereering mistakes and-or blind luck.
After being TOTALLY overshadowed by Man Utd, Arsenal and Chelsea in 1991-2006, the 2005 ChL winners was a comeback. Then came 2008-09 and 2013-14. They were that close.
And finally this season they are benefiting from Chelsea and Arsenal having inexperienced new managers, Mou's villanous meltdown and City being lottery winners without franchise winning mentality (no Pepus, City is not Barça or Bayern, you should have signed for United) and who already said it all in 2017-18 (plus injuries).
So most likely they will win it, the "Klopp League" (with the Spurs finishing 2nd?).
Man the feck up and move on. If you don't like it, imagine being a Barça fan and watching Madrid win three consecutive ChLeagues with physical football, refereering mistakes and-or blind luck.
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I really don't think liverpool will win it this season. They've peaked too early. They rely on key players remaining fit, and they also carry the burden of expectation from desperate fans.
City will beat Liverpool next week, get their momentum back, and they know how to see out a title run. Next season it'll be a three horse race with us back in the mix. That's my take on it.
City will beat Liverpool next week, get their momentum back, and they know how to see out a title run. Next season it'll be a three horse race with us back in the mix. That's my take on it.
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