Liverpool 2018/19

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Maybe all these people praising Liverpool's transfer business think they are West Brom or Burnley who buy players for peanuts?

3 of those players haven't even played for us yet and one of them may not even be coming.

We still need to buy a Keeper and a CB yet and some cover for Firminio and even then our squad is not as good as City. City are looking to spend 75m on Mahrez and 45m on Jorginho just to improve their squad.

It's crazy everyone needs to spend ridiculous amounts just to catch City. Even frugal Poch is pressuring Levy for monies.
 
Mane ~ 35 million
Firmino ~ 30 million
Van Dijk ~ 75 million
Fabinho ~ 40 million
Keita ~ 60 million
Fekir ~ 60 million

Total ~ 300 million.

Just the £100 million out there.
Isn’t that spread out across four years, with inflation pushing fees up over time?

Your post makes it look like we’ve spent that within a 1-2 year period.
 
If you are talking about the season that just finished then there are mitigating circumstances. No one was going to catch City as they have had a freak season that will take decades to better. United were on challenging pace for most of the season but were still 10+ points behind City.

If Liverpool are clear 2nd place next season with 80-90 points and lost the title to City then I won't hold it against them.

Why do you believe they had "a freak season", I smell some bitterness here tbh.
 
Isn’t that spread out across four years, with inflation pushing fees up over time?

Your post makes it look like we’ve spent that within a 1-2 year period.

Apart from Mane you have
 
Why do you believe they had "a freak season", I smell some bitterness here tbh.

Uwot? They smashed the points record total, he couldnt even get 100 points with his Barcelona side.

City will not get 100 points next season, they will get in the 85-95 mark.
 
Uwot? They smashed the points record total, he couldnt even get 100 points with his Barcelona side.

City will not get 100 points next season, they will get in the 85-95 mark.

So if they get up to 95 it won't be a "freak season" again?
 
Contrary to what Mourinho seems to believe, one holding midfielder is enough against half of the PL teams.

Good luck with that. It's not so much just the 1 DM, it's the two attack minded CMs ahead of him + Salah who doesn't track back (for obvious reasons) + wing backs who are more attacking than defending.
 
Assuming they sign a top class GK and Fekir, they should be seriously competing for the title. My prediction is they’ll be up there but tail off at some point. A second or third place finish is likely down to a lack of squad depth.
 
Assuming they sign a top class GK and Fekir, they should be seriously competing for the title. My prediction is they’ll be up there but tail off at some point. A second or third place finish is likely down to a lack of squad depth.

With Alisson and Fekir in, then on paper they look very strong. Only need a new CB and RB, and a backup for Firminho to have a very strong squad.
As of now they seem more likely to be able to challange for the title than we do... Sadly...
 
So if they get up to 95 it won't be a "freak season" again?

Yes, low to mid nineties is not out of the ordinary for a title winning team. Chelsea got 93 under Conte, Chelsea got it twice under Mourinho, We have gotten it a few times under SAF.

This season is similar to what Conte did at Juve a few years back getting 102 points. It's near impossible to repeat the next season.
 
- Another cup final | Winning a final often depends on details and I'm not ready to label our season as a failure if we don't win a trophy, but we should reach another final, don't care in which competition. I think it's time we finally get into the latter stages of the FA Cup under Klopp as well.

The single most important thing for Liverpool has to be winning a trophy next season, not just make a final. It's all fine to get top 4 and make good signings that improve the club but having something to show for that improvement is very important. Top 4 after top 4 with no trophies is ok but it can't become acceptable season after season.

Liverpool are in pretty much the same situation as Spurs, both clubs have done very well to get themselves in the position they are but they need to take the next step and that's the hardest part. Especially since you don't know for how long Salah and Kane will stay around. Both clubs run the serious risk of having done a great job and having nothing to show for it.
 
They have to win something I think.

They are spending big and Klopp can't keep sailing by as a nearly man.

You would think so after the money being bandied about, yet most of the resident dippers are laying down their excuses before the season has even begun.

It's only logical to expect a title challenge after spending large sums of money in the transfer market.
 
The single most important thing for Liverpool has to be winning a trophy next season, not just make a final. It's all fine to get top 4 and make good signings that improve the club but having something to show for that improvement is very important. Top 4 after top 4 with no trophies is ok but it can't become acceptable season after season.

Liverpool are in pretty much the same situation as Spurs, both clubs have done very well to get themselves in the position they are but they need to take the next step and that's the hardest part. Especially since you don't know for how long Salah and Kane will stay around. Both clubs run the serious risk of having done a great job and having nothing to show for it.

Liverpool's lack of success is worse than Spurs' given the money spent and the difference in size between the two clubs.
 
I think Buffon would be a pretty good signing by the way. Liverpool are missing a character like him and he's still a good goalkeeper.

Probably not the ideal solution but I'd love to see it happen.
 
They have to win something I think.

They are spending big and Klopp can't keep sailing by as a nearly man.
I think you’re right considering how much we’re spending.

Not winning anything next season would be seen as a massive failure if we get all of these players in.
 
I think you’re right considering how much we’re spending.

Not winning anything next season would be seen as a massive failure if we get all of these players in.
So a second place, a lost FA cup final and a CL semi-final would be a disappointment for you next season? Weird if you ask me, that's once again clear progress. It would be a disappointing season in the sense that we haven't won anything but we are putting ourselves consistently in a position to win things, and if you do that it's bound to happen rather sooner than later.

You have to steadily settle yourself into a position to compete first imo, instead of trying to skip a few steps, i.e. trying to go from 4th twice in a row to champions.
 
They have to start making good transfers in their defense + GK. Looks like VVD was a start, before that basically everyone they signed in the last 7 years was kind of a flop. While their play style is vulnerable to conceding goals a lot of their problems were mainly personnel wise and not structural.
Also, regarding their midfield, while Klopps setup can paper over some cracks, see their CL run with that atrocious midfield, they're still in need of someone who can really control a game. I don't think Keita will be the solution and I don't know enough about Fabinho - but let's see.
 
If it makes you feel better after hearing Fabinho joined Liverpool.

 
You would think so after the money being bandied about, yet most of the resident dippers are laying down their excuses before the season has even begun.

It's only logical to expect a title challenge after spending large sums of money in the transfer market.

You guys haven't challenged whilst Mourinho has been there and you've spent only 50m less than city. If City go and buy Mahrez and Jorginho spending 120m on top of all the talent they have , all teams will have difficulty challenging unless they spend big. Even after spending 200m this Summer we're still trying to catch City
 
They'll definitely think of challenging for the title next season. And without added pressure as well since most will expect this dominant City team to retain and United to be thereabout after another summer of heavy investment.

However, we've seen recent champion become complacent the following season, and with question marks on Jose, this could be the perfect storm. They'll need a Leicester-like luck though, since they lack quality backups.

This is assuming they bring in Fekir/Lemar, GK and a few defenders.
 
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You guys haven't challenged whilst Mourinho has been there and you've spent only 50m less than city. If City go and buy Mahrez and Jorginho spending 120m on top of all the talent they have , all teams will have difficulty challenging unless they spend big. Even after spending 200m this Summer we're still trying to catch City

Our squad was much worse with Schneiderlin, Schweinsteiger, Depay and so on. It was by no means better than your squad when Klopp took over, though you folks keep saying that. Our best attackers were Rashford and Martial, who were both inconsistent, Herrera and Fellaini were our best midfielders and we had the likes of Blind and Darmian getting regular starts.

We have managed to win the minor trophies and clawed our way back into the Top 4. That is worth the money spent. This season though, we expect a major trophy, or atleast a proper title challenge, a domestic cup and CL QF minimum. Bottom line, a trophy either way is expected.

Klopp's had 3 seasons and he should be able to challenge for the title and win a domestic cup atleast with the squad you will have next season. If not, it most definitely is a failure for you. No trophy in his 4th season will be damning.
 
This season though, we expect a major trophy, or atleast a proper title challenge, a domestic cup and CL QF minimum. Bottom line, a trophy either way is expected.
My way too early prediction is that you'll end up short of those goals.
 
So a second place, a lost FA cup final and a CL semi-final would be a disappointment for you next season? Weird if you ask me, that's once again clear progress. It would be a disappointing season in the sense that we haven't won anything but we are putting ourselves consistently in a position to win things, and if you do that it's bound to happen rather sooner than later.

You have to steadily settle yourself into a position to compete first imo, instead of trying to skip a few steps, i.e. trying to go from 4th twice in a row to champions.

You lot have been spouting on about having the best attack on the planet all season

Now you have signed 2 midfielders

And signed literally the only venter back on the planet who could improve you according to Klopp the greatest manager of all time

Your talking rubbish IMo
 
You did drop quite a bit.

Especially when you are going against a team like City for the title.
We lost to Swansea away, drew three games at the end of the season when we were rotating to focus on the CL, then drew some other odd ones here and there.

Our top six results were more damaging to our overall points total. Two wins, four draws and four defeats i think? 10 points from a possible 30.
 
A lot will depend on how Salah plays, he has had a great season and all eyes will be on him to see if he can replicate it next season. He seems very grounded and level-headed so it will be interesting to see how he does. Even before Kiev, they badly need a keeper or two even so if they get Alisson that will benefit them and Fabinho is a good addition, wonder where he will play, midfield most likely with Alexander-Arnold doing well at RB.
 
Whoa :lol: That might be the worst performance I've seen in a while.. Does comfort me a bit tbh :drool:

Fabinho is overrated. I wasn't impressed when united were linked to him a few seasons ago. He was once considered a 'rampaging' RB and was compared to Maicon but in reality he's nowhere close.
 
Luckily we have quite a lot of players who aren't involved in the World Cup and we don't have a CL qualifier in Aug to contend with so am hoping for a good start in the prem. We had some difficult early fixtures last year, maybe we'll get a more favourable start this time round.

Can't see anyone but City winning the league again. If we can mount a sustained challenge ie still be in the mix up until March-April that would represent progress. Don't want to have to wait until the last day to secure top 4 for third year running.

Can definitely see another good European campaign. The format suits us and even though we're in Pot 3, and in with a chance of a so called group of death, I still feel we can get into the knock-out stages no matter how tricky the draw. From there, anything is possible - especially if we sign a decent fecking keeper! :annoyed:

Winning a domestic cup would be good but not to the detriment of league or CL campaigns.

If we end up with a starting 11 of:

Alisson/Oblak
Trent
New CB
VVD
Robertson
Fabinho
Keita
Fekir
Mane
Firmino
Salah

that will be a massive improvement. But long way to go before August 9th, and I'm sure it won't all be straightforward in the transfer market especially with the World Cup.
 
Keita and Fabinho are good signings IMO but they still need defensive depth and offensive depth. Can't keep relying on the likes of Solanke, Ings etc.