Yes of course. They will get Sturridge back eventually, and he seems even more important than we thought.
But anyway, it's up to United to take advantage while they struggle. Tomorrow's game will tell a lot.
Liverpool 2014/15 | WARNING: Contains strong amounts of Scouse nonsense
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But anyway, it's up to United to take advantage while they struggle. Tomorrow's game will tell a lot.
Balotelli has worked hard though. Not as hard as Suarez, but there isn't a forward at a high level who works as hard as him in the world.
I'm not entirely convinced about Arsenal securing top 4 this season, their best players have looked absolutely woeful. Lets not forget Everton will also probably do quite well as well, so it makes top 4 more of a competitive battle than its ever been.
The performances at Swansea and Burnley still haunt me, yes we've since made some terrific acquisitions and played tremendously well against QPR, but until we go on a run of results I'll remain nervous.
Sturridge will be back and Liverpool will go back to winning games too I'm sure.
Starting Lucas and Gerard was an awful decision. You guys need to pair Stevie with Hendersons industry. What's the timetable for Can and Allen? Always rated Can, Allen not so much but at least he can run.
Hardly terrible. I'm not arsed in arguing about how bad a prediction was. At the emd of the day it was wrong. That, the Palace smashing one and predicting United to finish in the top four last season were all poor predictions.
Any team can go on a run, even Utd with their forward lineup (putting it another way with the money spent if they don't its really all over for them as a club).
Way too early to make any calls. A draw between Chelsea and City keeps the table tight despite the bad results for everyone.
Way too early to make any calls. A draw between Chelsea and City keeps the table tight despite the bad results for everyone.
Henderson's gone back to looking very average.
forget predictions lads...and accept Liverpool are just not good enough....
Well, if you are predicting Liverpool to finish above United then we are onto a winner, seeing how poor your predictions are.
Gerrard is very clearly their main liability, it seems the only thing he offers them are a few penalties here and there. Long may he be remain undroppable 
This is what looks so different for me about them.
They used to press high and counter from there. Just don't look like doing it at the moment.
Poor game from him, yet he's still looked good so far this season. Was excellent against Spurs and Southampton.
Well beyond the workrate he lacks the pace/ability to beat a man Suarez had. Nothing you wouldn't expect when you replace a 70m striker with a 16m one.
In terms of their squad, I think without Sterling and/or Sturridge they will struggle badly. They were lucky last year in that they didn't have many injuries to them and they had Suarez. This year with the prospect of playing significantly more matches I don't think they'll be so lucky.
What was annoying during the game today was how at any moment in the match Liverpool got some momentum going, the commentators would start drooling over how they looked back the 'the Liverpool of old'. As if they were some formidable heavyweight with multiple glories over the past few years.
What was annoying during the game today was how at any moment in the match Liverpool got some momentum going, the commentators would start drooling over how they looked back the 'the Liverpool of old'. As if they were some formidable heavyweight with multiple glories over the past few years.
Undroppable cornerstone of the squad.
If you were following the discussion between Barney and I before the match then you will have noticed I said exactly the same thing. He should be further forward at RM or #10 - but he no longer has the legs for 90 mins and BR was well out of line today making him play his 3rd game in 8 days. Insanity. The stats someone quoted above are very very pertinent :
Steven Gerrard game in numbers: 82% pass accuracy 0 through balls 0 shots 0/5 crosses completed 0 tackles won.
The defence was appalling. No excuses for that. Yuk
Can out for another week or so and Allen for 5-6 weeks I think. We are a far far better side with Allen in the team (witness our performance at Spurs).
He had his worst game for maybe a whole year. I'd hardly call that going back to 'looking very average', everyone has a game they wished they could forget from time to time.
It's almost as if they were coming up that hill after all. However, they took a peak over the edge when they got near the top, shat themselves, then ran back down.
Defence and strikers might not be outstanding but for me their midfield just looked non-existent today. They got completely over-run by West Ham in that area and had very little to offer when they had the odd attack. Tuesday night seemed to be much of the same.
Saying Gerrard needs replaced for someone with (at least) better legs or more dynamic energy is like banging your head of the wall though when talking to Liverpool supporters. I know I've been personally bringing up replacing Gerrard since last season even when they were winning games easily.
Saying Gerrard needs replaced for someone with (at least) better legs or more dynamic energy is like banging your head of the wall though when talking to Liverpool supporters. I know I've been personally bringing up replacing Gerrard since last season even when they were winning games easily.
Balotelli is doing alright in terms of target man stuff actually but he plays the game at his own speed and in a more rigid way and doesn't press and that changes Liverpool's style altogether.
Having Gerrard play 3 games in a week was always a big ask and it's a risk that has backfired today. Think he should stay being gradually phased out once all their other midfielders are fit.
As for writing us off ... weren't all the United fans saying that 'when we get our players back and bed in the newcomers' .... ?
We will be better in a few weeks time once the newbies settle in. 3rd/4th is still between the same 3 teams for me (Liverpool/Arsenal/United) and there's not much in it come the end of the season. Spurs and Everton won't be far behind either.
We will be better in a few weeks time once the newbies settle in. 3rd/4th is still between the same 3 teams for me (Liverpool/Arsenal/United) and there's not much in it come the end of the season. Spurs and Everton won't be far behind either.
Gerrard provides a lot psychologically to Liverpool, if they drop him I think they also could suffer. That would be heart breaking for him, these are the decisions the best managers have got to get right.
Henderson is a real driving force of Liverpools team now an excellent player.
Yep as I said above .. BR was fecking nuts to play him.
True.
But its great they are wobbling. Last April they were on the verge of winning the league. Then they blew it. Suarez has left and they have brought in Balotelli as his replacement. They haven't any hope in the title race this season by the looks of things. Its some change in a few months.
Its pretty clear that they will struggle to contend for the title any time soon.
They were very poor today, they were getting torn apart at times in the first half and looked well out of their depth. You have to question the team selection.
I know what you're saying but by the same token, it can't be encouraging watching your captain struggling to get to grips with the game and hitting silly hollywood balls that go out of play.
They've looked really poor lately. I won't write them off completely based on a few poor results, but they have looked a lot weaker than last season. They'll compete for the top 4 undoubtedly, but whereas I'd have had them as likely to finish 3rd at the start of the season, they might now have a hard battle on to get top 4. We'll see though, largely depends on how us and Arsenal perform too.
If they are not going to drop him, Rodger at least need to start subbing him off around 70 minute mark. Even Fergie did that with Scholesy
As last season showed, that's impossible to predict.
True, although they wouldn't have to completely drop him all the time or never play him. It could just be the case that they start to limit his game-time a little if he looks as if he's getting past it.
He was playing too deep for my liking today. To get the best out of him he needs to be given license to break from midfield, expecting him to sit deep (kinda forced with our awful display at the back) doesn't help.
Let's be serious, writing off Liverpool on the basis of a bad week is just plain stupid.
It simply raises questions, that's all at this point.
I fully expect them to smash Everton who never bother to show up.
It simply raises questions, that's all at this point.
I fully expect them to smash Everton who never bother to show up.
Gerrard is very clearly their main liability, it seems the only thing he offers them are a few penalties here and there. Long may he be remain undroppable
Absolutely agree. Its like watching LvG continue with 3 at the back without the correct players, we loved it. You're obviously having the same joy with us playing a man who's clearly past it that the team has to be built around him. But its still not helping him or us.
Remember when Barney and Co were convinced that Sakho is going to turn into a World Class defender?
Lol.
Balotelli for Suarez is a such an opposite replacement. Suarez offered excellent work ethic, Balotelli is just a lazy twat.
Lol.
Balotelli for Suarez is a such an opposite replacement. Suarez offered excellent work ethic, Balotelli is just a lazy twat.
I've not seen all of his games this season of course but I thought he was mediocre against Villa and for England as well. Villa marked Gerrard out of the game and Henderson was tasked with taking up the mantle and he struggled, for me. Lots of huff and puff but not much quality.