If he comes to United I will make my heart rule over my mind and make all the excuses and reasons for moving. If he happens to move somewhere else it's his life and prerogative. It's news for a few days and something to pass our time debating. Personally, makes no difference to me as a United fan if he plays for Barcelona or PSG.
Lionel Messi \ Signs for PSG
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You would if you loved something and was more important than money.
Ditto. He was in contact with PSG for a while. How some people are buying all this is ridiculous.
He had asked to leave Barca just a year ago. At that point he would have already discussed potential terms with the likes of PSG. In this case they'd just be picking up from that point.
I wouldn't imagine it took us long to discuss terms with Sancho this summer either, for example. They already know what's on offer.
Barcelonas wage percentage per revenue is 115%, without messis wage its 95%, la ligas rules need to be 70%,
So yes, even if he played for free, they couldnt register him
I just love it when people onthe internet use their own experience at Walmart to compare with millionaire footballers who grew up at a club for over a decade
That's definitely the vibe I get from the people that seem to hate him so much. Seems a very petty attitude.
If it's a charity sure, but 1) Barca are not a charity 2) I'm not working for free while my colleague AG gets 880k a week for doing sweet feck all
And really I'd just rather retire than work for free if I had half a billion squids. But hey ho...
Homeless guy on the street across you would say exactly the same about our cushy jobs and be amazed we can moan things like a dick boss, only x% increment, not great HR policies and so on.
If the reports of PSG offering €25mil a year after tax are true we should be in the mix for his signature. This is a once in a lifetime signing opportunity. To have one of the best players in history in your colours is well worth that money.
Some bank company directors have been with the same company for over a decade and are dead rich, but I'd really be surprised if they'd work for free if the company is at risk of going under. They'd just change jobs, which is what Messi is doing.
I think you guys are taking the romance of football to a level which is not in line with normal thinking.
The bank directors never proclaim their undying love for the bank.
It seems like a done deal with PSG. They have too much going for them anyway
He will get few oil wells after he retires. This salary number is just a sham.
Well Messi could offer to pay Barca 200k week to play and they couldn't register him. He's a free agent this summer and needs to be resigned by the club but they can't until they reduce their wage bill. Without Messi it's 95% of their current revenue.
Does that mean anything? I'm happy to go on TV/Youtube and say 'I love my company' tomorrow but I'm still gone if they can't pay me.
Yes but that's part of their history since 1904. History isn't limited to just being successful and the 50 following years are also part of the history of the club. We don't really consider that only clubs that have won a lot since the beginning of times have history?
Would have been a bit easier to renew before his contract expired, no?
And if your company had any fans or similar, they'd call you greedy.
I don't have any issues with him demanding top dollar. I just think it doesn't really fit with this illusion that he absolutely loves Barcelona, owes them his career and so on. It's a bit moot anyway, since they couldn't have registered him even for free.
So mes que un club is now just a soulless entity that exists purely for making money ?
Messi is the headliner but it has been said from day one that they can't register anyone at the moment. At least not in La Liga, if I'm not mistaken they can play in Copa del Rey and CL.
He does love Barca, but not enough to work for free. I think the only time he (or any person) would consider that if he actually owns Barca, which he doesn't. He's just an employee.
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Like "hey Leo, here are the papers from a year ago, just sign it!"
No way you can just pick up and sort a deal of that magnitude in a space of a day or two. I would say Messi and his camp were well aware of registration being practically impossible and sorting a deal with PSG for some time now.
This all looks quite convenient for both Laporta and Messi while looking horrendous on Bartomeu (and some can blame the league as well).
In short, "how to move on from Messi" (which is also the best thing in the long run for Barcelona imo). I think this scenario suits all parties.
Yes, and I'm fine with that. Media narrative painting him as the saint playing for the passion of the game and the club he absolutely loves irks me, not his status as employee.
Think we'd feel rightfully pissed of if Scholes or Neville left because they were chasing money, even though as employees they're absolutely free to do so.
In that scenario, he probably would go back to Argentina and play for free.
Yup. 'Mes que un club' is a simple marketing slogan to enhance the image of the club. Similar to the 'Theatre of Dreams'.
It's romantic, but ultimately all about marketing if you put on your objective cap.
It really has, some of these posts are head spinning
The notion of playing for 'free', even though it wouldn't change a thing in this situation, is completely delusional and frankly absurd.
Yeah I can see him playing for Newell's Old Boys for free (or a pittance) in his late 30s.
There are some absolute weapons in this thread. Expecting Messi to work for free or at 20% of his worth is not how things work in the real world.
It's a political message. It's very different to the Theatre of Dreams.
That's a totally emotional statement. One should never work for free unless its a charity. Football is a big business and Messi brings a lot of revenue for Barcelona. Its ridiculous to expect him to go pro-bono, no one else would. Are club execs not getting salaries? Why does Joan Laporta not work for free? He is wealthy himself.
Surely the Barcelona salary isn't his only source of income and he gets paid millions from sponsorship deals? I'm not sure if you can equate footballers to the common folks like us because our jobs are most likely our only/main source of income and we haven't been paid 500m in the last 5 years.
For a guy who's stayed at Barcelona for 20+ years where they've done everything to keep him happy including hiring the likes of Tata Martino, the best he can do is agree to reduce his weekly wage from 2m to 1m?
I mean all this is if he could have kept Barca afloat by playing for free. It's a moot point if even registering him for free isn't possible due to financial regulations.
That's totally not the point. Messi at this point don't need the money, he has plenty.
But you never work for free in a job. Certainly not when you are the one largely contributing to massive amount of revenue for your employer.
Make me wonder, if Messi signed the contract when he was under his previous contract, it wouldn't be an issue?!
The issue is now he's technically a free agent (requiring to register as new player), right?
Politics? I'm not sure about that. Besides Messi is Argentinian, so I'm not surprised if doesn't involve himself deeply in the whole Catalan political situation.
That's understandable.
However, my reply was not necessarily just focused on the football industry.
Under Bartomeu they were one of the most incompetent club in the history. People somehow insinuate or maybe try to convince themselves that Barcelona doesn't generate money but they do, they generate more money than anyone not named Real Madrid and sometimes Manchester United. Their overall financial situation is down it incredible incompetence and the same is true for their inabilitiy to abide to rules they knew would be a problem.
Sooo, what's happening with Aguero now? Presumably, he went there to play with Messi, and obviously, that ain't happening. Also, has he officially been registered yet? Considering they're having this problem with their wage bill. Same with Depay
"Mes que un club" is about catalanism, it's entirely political and has little to do with football or Barcelona within football.
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