Liam Delap | £30m release clause?

The homegrown bit is probably a factor as well. Need to keep an eye out on that.

I wouldn’t be elated with Delap but he’d be a good addition in a football sense and a smart one financially.
 
So ESPN know that he’s our top target, but apparently not what his release clause is?
 
With the release clause making it a relatively easy deal, you would think that Chelsea will try to get this done before the Club World Cup starts. I think he'll go there but either way, their interest should see this decided in early June so at least there's plenty of time to move on if we do miss out.
 
Even if he's cheaper, favoring him over the likes of Gyokeres, Osimhen and Sesko is a bad idea. We should wait until we know if we play CL next season.
 
Even if he's cheaper, favoring him over the likes of Gyokeres, Osimhen and Sesko is a bad idea. We should wait until we know if we play CL next season.

He would definitely feel like an austerity buy if United were to sign him. Although, if he were bought along with someone like Cunha, it would make more sense imo.
 
He would definitely feel like an austerity buy if United were to sign him. Although, if he were bought along with someone like Cunha, it would make more sense imo.
Yes but that's not a given.. I would rather get a proper CF first and then see if we have the money to buy someone like Cunha.
 
Yes but that's not a given.. I would rather get a proper CF first and then see if we have the money to buy someone like Cunha.

Yeah that's definitely not likely unless we buy someone like Schick, who would be less expensive because he's 29. Gyokeres and Cherki would be doable imo, as would Delap/Schick and Cunha (who is reported to cost about £60m).
 
A young Shearer is actually a very good comparison. Obviously no guarantee he kicks on like Shearer did, but very similar qualities at a young age.
 
Hmm. A few takeaways.

What this shows me is his shot technique is actually lacking.

His main goal threat is in being a 6 yard poacher.

Yet from what I've watched of him in real time I like his build and the way he carries the ball, his tenacity. That is PL standard.

Overall though I think he is lacking. Strikes me as a more Jon Walters level player.

I don't think he is necessarily better than Hojlund despite his shortcomings to date.

We should keep working on Hojlund and Zirkzee within the system but add proven if possible.

Do we get Ollie Watkins instead of Rashford coming back? 29, Villa might sell, proven in PL. Tired us over for 2 years perhaps.
 
I agree with others we should wait and see if we can get champions league, if we do let’s go for Osimhen, Gykores or Sesko or go for Watkins or Jao Pedro.

Imagine with Champions league signing Pedro and Cunha. It will give us amazing attacking options and make us amazingly difficult to defend. Both of them can dribble and run with the ball, technically they are brilliant and score goals. The likes of David and Delap we should avoid unless god forbid we don’t win Europa league then we are looking at austerity and make do with low level players.
 
His ball striking technique is still too raw. His ball striking technique still lacks of both combined precision and power, just like Hojlund.

Even when I watched Delap plays, there is similarity current weakness that both players like to take too many touches on the ball and prefer to dwelling on the ball and trying to wrestle the defenders more. The big differences are Delap are far stronger, better aerially, and capable to shield the ball far better than Hojlund, which is why Delap is far better than Hojlund right now. While Hojlund is one of the worst striker aerially, too weak physically, and incapable to shield the ball, probably one of the worst player in hold up play.

Although, I can still see Delap develop to be like Gyokeres in the future. But with this type of striker, I don’t think he’s the answer at this stage. I would rather go with Mateta or May be even Cunha as starting no 9 would be better option than Delap as our starting no 9.
 
I remember when Evan Ferguson was tipped for the top on here. What’s happened to him?
 
Would be a highly underwhelming signing for me. Given any CF been suggested is coming in to replace Hojlund who is quite possibly the worst PL CF this season, then anyone is going to seem like an upgrade.
I think we can do better than Delap, especially for £40m. He just doesn’t look like a guy to get up 15+ goals next season.
 
Would be a highly underwhelming signing for me. Given any CF been suggested is coming in to replace Hojlund who is quite possibly the worst PL CF this season, then anyone is going to seem like an upgrade.
I think we can do better than Delap, especially for £40m. He just doesn’t look like a guy to get up 15+ goals next season.
Who do you think we could buy for £40m that’s better?

Half the PL clubs are looking to buy strikers in the summer. Arsenal, Liverpool will have top picks unfortunately.
 
Hmm. A few takeaways.

What this shows me is his shot technique is actually lacking.

His main goal threat is in being a 6 yard poacher.

Yet from what I've watched of him in real time I like his build and the way he carries the ball, his tenacity. That is PL standard.

Overall though I think he is lacking. Strikes me as a more Jon Walters level player.

I don't think he is necessarily better than Hojlund despite his shortcomings to date.

We should keep working on Hojlund and Zirkzee within the system but add proven if possible.

Do we get Ollie Watkins instead of Rashford coming back? 29, Villa might sell, proven in PL. Tired us over for 2 years perhaps.
Jon Walters never scored more than 8 goals in the Prem, strange comparison. He's got far more potential (and arguably already exceeded) than Jon bloody Walters.
 
Who do you think we could buy for £40m that’s better?

Half the PL clubs are looking to buy strikers in the summer. Arsenal, Liverpool will have top picks unfortunately.
I don’t watch hardly any football outside of the PL, so impossible for me to say. But to suggest there aren’t better CFs out there for that price is a bit odd, no? That’s why our scouts need to do their work and find someone better than Hojlund.
 
Injured constantly.

But why shape your opinion of one player around the career of another?
I’m not shaping an opinion on him, don’t know how’ve come to that conclusion. I was merely pointing out how quickly people overhype a player.
 
Unless it's an incredible talent United can't have a 21 year old up top. It's too much responsibility for a young guy just getting his career going.
True. But was just saying he’s better then Delap so would be worth the similar money
 
I’m not shaping an opinion on him, don’t know how’ve come to that conclusion. I was merely pointing out how quickly people overhype a player.

I don’t think anyone is overhyping Delap. Even fans who want to sign him aren't expecting him to get brilliant or anything.

But Ferguson is completely irrelevant to Delap.

You could easily go the other way with that thinking and say look at Kane. Was underrated when he first started scoring. Was suspected he was just having a good one off season. Wasn't worth spending money on.
 
I don’t think anyone is overhyping Delap. Even fans who want to sign him aren't expecting him to get brilliant or anything.

But Ferguson is completely irrelevant to Delap.

You could easily go the other way with that thinking and say look at Kane. Was underrated when he first started scoring. Was suspected he was just having a good one off season. Wasn't worth spending money on.

Have you seen young Kane? he was millions years ahead of Delap in terms of ball control, ball striking and ball technique. It's absurd to compare them to each other.
 
I don’t think anyone is overhyping Delap. Even fans who want to sign him aren't expecting him to get brilliant or anything.

But Ferguson is completely irrelevant to Delap.

You could easily go the other way with that thinking and say look at Kane. Was underrated when he first started scoring. Was suspected he was just having a good one off season. Wasn't worth spending money on.
Maybe I’m explaining my point badly, so I’ll try again. The time he has performed in the PL isn’t adequate to ascertain whether he’ll improve or be a flop. Same as when people hyped Ferguson up, or Kane down (your example).

People need to not rush to assertions
 
Some wild efforts in there but I still think he has a fair amount going for him.
His finishing obviously needs to improve as he's far toi erratic and eager, the latter is understandable because he IS Ipswichs main goal threat and with that comes alot of pressure.

I like his movement and tempo though. He's a technically sound, busy centre forward who has room to improve.
 
Maybe I’m explaining my point badly, so I’ll try again. The time he has performed in the PL isn’t adequate to ascertain whether he’ll improve or be a flop. Same as when people hyped Ferguson up, or Kane down (your example).

People need to not rush to assertions
It really amazes me the prices that are quoted for these players as well.
60plus million for Rasmus and some were quoting 80mil for Ferguson after a couple of decent games.
Mind boggling stuff!
 
Have you seen young Kane? he was millions years ahead of Delap in terms of ball control, ball striking and ball technique. It's absurd to compare them to each other.

I'm not comparing them. That's the point of my post. It's pointless to judge one player by using the career of another.
 
That is painfully mediocre. We never learn.

Some wild efforts in there but I still think he has a fair amount going for him.
His finishing obviously needs to improve as he's far toi erratic and eager, the latter is understandable because he IS Ipswichs main goal threat and with that comes alot of pressure.

I like his movement and tempo though. He's a technically sound, busy centre forward who has room to improve.
Agree with the latter. Not the finished article of course, but a lot of promise there. He doesn't half like to fecking whack the ball does he?

But he uses both feet well. Good movement and tempo to his game as you say, and he scored a good number of those scrappy 6-yard goals which should be a strikers bread and butter - the types you just know Hojlund won't get as he won't be in there to begin with.

He's far from the ideal signing but look where we are. Ideal (Gyokeres to most I guess?) Is going to be a long shot. Delap for 30-40m would be a decent bit of business, improving our side while still holding his value should things not pan out.
 
Maybe I’m explaining my point badly, so I’ll try again. The time he has performed in the PL isn’t adequate to ascertain whether he’ll improve or be a flop. Same as when people hyped Ferguson up, or Kane down (your example).

People need to not rush to assertions

True and I don't particularly want Delap but you can't wait around forever with strikers.

If you wait until they're nailed on it's too late. For us at this moment in time it will be anyway. We can't attract or afford a striker who is completely proven at the top level.

But I definitely wouldn't let another player not coming to fruiting put me off. You just have to judge that individual talent.
 
True and I don't particularly want Delap but you can't wait around forever with strikers.

If you wait until they're nailed on it's too late. For us at this moment in time it will be anyway. We can't attract or afford a striker who is completely proven at the top level.

But I definitely wouldn't let another player not coming to fruiting put me off. You just have to judge that individual talent.
I think we can attract and afford a top striker.

What we can’t afford to take another gamble. Let’s be honest, Delap could be Hojlund mk2.

Doesn’t have to be the top of the tree, but at least have done decent numbers over a few seasons.
 
he looks a bit like the older post-injury version of Shearer in his movement, I guess, but the technique and quality are basically still miles off. Young Shearer is like night and day though.

he's a good young player I wouldn't be too bothered if we missed out on, but if we had an established striker and needed a cheapish backup it would be more appealing
 
Agree with the latter. Not the finished article of course, but a lot of promise there. He doesn't half like to fecking whack the ball does he?

But he uses both feet well. Good movement and tempo to his game as you say, and he scored a good number of those scrappy 6-yard goals which should be a strikers bread and butter - the types you just know Hojlund won't get as he won't be in there to begin with.

He's far from the ideal signing but look where we are. Ideal (Gyokeres to most I guess?) Is going to be a long shot. Delap for 30-40m would be a decent bit of business, improving our side while still holding his value should things not pan out.
Yep. I think its quite obvious why a fair amount of good clubs are looking at him.

Over time I think he'll become a very handy forward to have.