Liam Delap | £30m release clause?

Said it before that he reminds me of young Rooney.

I think he’s capable of playing as an Amorim’s 10, or as second striker, thus allow us to bring in a more experienced no. 9, and for him to develop to be a proper no. 9 in the future.

But that would need a massive convincing from us, for him to buy that kind of project.

I just really like the attributes he has. And it feels like a massive mistake to miss him. Just like when we missed Rice and Caicedo.
 
1. David, Delap, Zirkzee Obi

I think your right, Delap wouldn't like to be a back up but signing a free transfer may make that feeling cool down as it would seem like good business rather than a statement signing. Also considering it won't cost us any money, we might go for Delap first and then go for David after as our experienced striker on a free.

This maybe why we are being linked to Delap First, to get him under our books first before we get an experienced striker that would compete with Delap rather than asking delap to compete with an experienced striker.

I doubt David is good enough, but at the same time I don't think strikers apart from gyokeres and Osimhen are that great too and even those two plenty of people have some question marks about. David is a free transfer and even if he isn't a great striker, he isn't going to be worse than Hojlund who is non existent. David also allows us to get money when we do sell him in the future.

Delap should join us because United are starting a new return of the giant project and this can usually be quite exciting for young players. I believe this is why players like Yoro joined us and I wouldnt be surprised to see delap be just as excited to take the no 9 spot of the return of Manchester United rather than joining a team like Chelsea who already have good strikers but still a top club that just are not hitting the heights. Arsenal however have a big hole at ST so joining them maybe intriguing because of winning a title but Arsenal would more likely target a Gyokeres type transfer to do that rather than go for a striker with Potential. Same with Liverpool and them potentially replacing Nunez.

I'm quite optimistic about Delap and as simple as it sounds - so many Man City players have been great since leaving City youth setup for example Palmer and Frimpong that I wouldnt be surprised for Delap to be just as good.

Saw a link somewhere that we are after two strikers in the summer yesterday, and signing Delap + David with Hojlund leaving on loan/perm would give us some good options at a relatively small outlay.
 
Be amazed if he went to Forest.

It'll be United or Chelsea, maybe even Liverpool.

Why? Liverpool won't go for him, based on what Darwin has been like for them, they won't go for a pure no 9. Even Graham mentioned by going for a striker like Darwin, they would have to change the whole way they attack. That's why links to Isak or Ekitike make sense for them.

Chelsea possibly, but he still has Nicolas Jackson to contend with plus as a club, they have unstable. Forest as a team is getting better, he will start for them, their style suits him and they will pay him well.
 
What makes you think he's clearly our plan B, personally haven't seen enough reliable noise about Osimhen being our top target.

That's just a sense I get, could be wrong. The transfer noise around Delap that is very unlike Ineos. Flagging to the whole market that he's the no 1 choice is not like them and especially when it seems like a very competitive race for him.

He makes sense as a plan B in case we don't get champions league and will then go for him and Cunha. 1st choice is obviously a target like Osimhen or Ekitike, who we have shown interest in.
 
Nah, if you’re Delap you take the big move and big money while it’s on the table. It might not come calling again.

Why? He will probably see what has happened to other talents who have gone and not developed at big clubs. Plus he will have advice from his dad, who's an old pro. He will make a sensible decision given he will have choice because of his transfer fee. If he can go to a club where he will start and develops further, he has a good chance to be the next England no 9 after Kane. Top clubs will still be after him if he spends 2-3 seasons at Forest, he's still young.
 
This just aint happening. With all his options, I just don't see him coming here to be a pure back up, which he clearly would be with Gyokeres. I think the realistic scenarios for us are:
1. Delap, Hojlund, Chido
2. Delap, Schick, Chido
3. Gyokeres, Hojlund, Chido.
4. Osimhen, Hojlund, Chido
5. Schick, Hojlund, Chido

3 and 4 would be ideal and probably can happen with champs league money next year.
I wouldn't mind 2 if it allowed us to bring in a high level 10 like Cunha.
1 or 5 probably happen if we get knocked out tomorrow.
Apparently interest in Italy is high for Hojlund so hopefully we can move him one for a decent amount. He's a striker after all.

It would more likely be Schick, Delap, Chido since Schick has double Delap's goals and is far more experienced.
 
Said it before that he reminds me of young Rooney.

I think he’s capable of playing as an Amorim’s 10, or as second striker, thus allow us to bring in a more experienced no. 9, and for him to develop to be a proper no. 9 in the future.

But that would need a massive convincing from us, for him to buy that kind of project.

I just really like the attributes he has. And it feels like a massive mistake to miss him. Just like when we missed Rice and Caicedo.
I don't think he's anywhere near as good as Rooney was, and is very much a physical #9 and that alone. He can't play the deep forward position where Rooney was at his best. There's nothing to show that Delap has the technical ability or creativity to do that.

He's a big bastard and a grafter, with good pace and he can finish. That's it.
 
I don't think he's anywhere near as good as Rooney was, and is very much a physical #9 and that alone. He can't play the deep forward position where Rooney was at his best. There's nothing to show that Delap has the technical ability or creativity to do that.

He's a big bastard and a grafter, with good pace and he can finish. That's it.
He is a lot better at linking play than you give him credit for.
 
Said it before that he reminds me of young Rooney.

I think he’s capable of playing as an Amorim’s 10, or as second striker, thus allow us to bring in a more experienced no. 9, and for him to develop to be a proper no. 9 in the future.

But that would need a massive convincing from us, for him to buy that kind of project.

I just really like the attributes he has. And it feels like a massive mistake to miss him. Just like when we missed Rice and Caicedo.

He doesn't seem anything like Rooney. Wayne was already an accomplished player as a teenager. Delap is 22 and only just making a name for himself.
 
With Chelsea also interested, it will be a challenge to bring him in. Hopefully the promise of first team football will sway his decision but we’re such a disaster at the moment that I expect it to be a pretty depressing summer for recruitment.
 
With Chelsea also interested, it will be a challenge to bring him in. Hopefully the promise of first team football will sway his decision but we’re such a disaster at the moment that I expect it to be a pretty depressing summer for recruitment.
Would he still be on your list IF we could somehow navigate our way to Europa League
 
He doesn't seem anything like Rooney. Wayne was already an accomplished player as a teenager. Delap is 22 and only just making a name for himself.
Wasn’t comparing his age and accomplishment, but merely his style
 
I don't think he's anywhere near as good as Rooney was, and is very much a physical #9 and that alone. He can't play the deep forward position where Rooney was at his best. There's nothing to show that Delap has the technical ability or creativity to do that.

He's a big bastard and a grafter, with good pace and he can finish. That's it.

Yeah. We’re pretty much disagreed. I think he’s more than just a big bastard and a grafter.
 
Watched a YouTube video and surprised me how well he carries the ball forward / advances with the ball at his feet.
 
Like @Gandalf says without winning Europa neither Osimhen/Gyökeres would take a second look at us
Apparently there are two transfer lists of targets for this summer. One based on qualification for CL via Europa League other not qualifying.

I'd presume those players with fixed release clauses i.e. delap or cherki would be on both lists.

It seems on the surface it's a decision (based on CL qualification) whether we spend a larger portion of the budget on a no 9 or a no10.
 
Wasn’t comparing his age and accomplishment, but merely his style

More Tevez than Rooney for me. And yes, those two were also very similar :p

Thing with Delap is I’m wondering if he’s as “intelligent” on the pitch as those two were. But his style would suit us, we need that bulldozer up front.
 
Apparently there are two transfer lists of targets for this summer. One based on qualification for CL via Europa League other not qualifying.

I'd presume those players with fixed release clauses i.e. delap or cherki would be on both lists.

It seems on the surface it's a decision (based on CL qualification) whether we spend a larger portion of the budget on a no 9 or a no10.
We need to spend a larger portion of budget on a no 9, feel we can find a reasonable priced no 10 somewhere in Europe.
 
More Tevez than Rooney for me. And yes, those two were also very similar :p

Thing with Delap is I’m wondering if he’s as “intelligent” on the pitch as those two were. But his style would suit us, we need that bulldozer up front.

Yeah. Tevez is probably the better reference.

He's not showing a massive "game intelligent" as those two yet, but at this stage and that price, I'm not expecting a young player that showing world class potential.

And probably we won't have a chance of getting him if he has shown it already.
 
I don't think he's anywhere near as good as Rooney was, and is very much a physical #9 and that alone. He can't play the deep forward position where Rooney was at his best. There's nothing to show that Delap has the technical ability or creativity to do that.

He's a big bastard and a grafter, with good pace and he can finish. That's it.
I think he means more in terms of style. But I think you're doing him a massive disservice, he's a very good ball carrier and his link up play is very good too.

His willingness to run behind and get physical will improve us massively.
 
I think he means more in terms of style. But I think you're doing him a massive disservice, he's a very good ball carrier and his link up play is very good too.

His willingness to run behind and get physical will improve us massively.
Get Delap and Dibling in and we will have two very promising young British talents, who fit the amorim philosophy and INEOS requirements.
 
More Tevez than Rooney for me. And yes, those two were also very similar :p

Thing with Delap is I’m wondering if he’s as “intelligent” on the pitch as those two were. But his style would suit us, we need that bulldozer up front.
More Bellamy than Tevez for me. :)
 
https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_...m-delap-became-man-united-top-transfer-target

So Delap is our No1 target for striker this summer.

"..Sources have told ESPN that United have placed Delap, who could be available for a transfer fee of £40 million if Ipswich are relegated this summer, ahead of Sporting CP's Viktor Gyökeres, RB Leipzig's Benjamin Sesko and Victor Osimhen, who is on loan at Galatasaray from Napoli, in their list of potential attacking reinforcements..."

"..He has shown pace, physical presence and the ability to lead the attacking line, and Kieran McKenna's team has also benefited from Delap being able to hold the ball up and provide a platform for Ipswich's midfielders and wingers, as well as displaying the alternative skill set of turning his marker and creating his own efforts on goal..."

"..Delap's attributes bear similarities to those of a young Alan Shearer.."

Shearer:".. 'He's got an arrogance about him, which I really like and he's got an aura. He's better than anything Man Utd have got up front. He's also better than anything Chelsea have got up front, so the answer is simple -- yes, he would start for those clubs."
 
https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_...m-delap-became-man-united-top-transfer-target

So Delap is our No1 target for striker this summer.

"..Sources have told ESPN that United have placed Delap, who could be available for a transfer fee of £40 million if Ipswich are relegated this summer, ahead of Sporting CP's Viktor Gyökeres, RB Leipzig's Benjamin Sesko and Victor Osimhen, who is on loan at Galatasaray from Napoli, in their list of potential attacking reinforcements..."

"..He has shown pace, physical presence and the ability to lead the attacking line, and Kieran McKenna's team has also benefited from Delap being able to hold the ball up and provide a platform for Ipswich's midfielders and wingers, as well as displaying the alternative skill set of turning his marker and creating his own efforts on goal..."

"..Delap's attributes bear similarities to those of a young Alan Shearer.."

Shearer:".. 'He's got an arrogance about him, which I really like and he's got an aura. He's better than anything Man Utd have got up front. He's also better than anything Chelsea have got up front, so the answer is simple -- yes, he would start for those clubs."
It's smart business, not glamorous, but the kind of signings we should have been making for the last decade. Hard to think Hojlund would have been signed under this administration.
 
It's smart business, not glamorous, but the kind of signings we should have been making for the last decade. Hard to think Hojlund would have been signed under this administration.
I agree, they are trying to build a squad not just first eleven of a similar age group, who mature together in a cycle and hopefully lead us to trophies. Arsenal and arteta have done similar and they are getting there albeit short of a player or two.