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For what it’s worth, a lot of our defeats this season have been games where we’ve played well and just looked clueless up front. By adding Cunha, Delap alongside Diallo (presumably) I think our attack will be much more fluid next season and the team will be better for it. I like that they appear to be trying to build the sum of all parts rather than just individuals.That is bold. I can't see any striker scoring 20 goals for us next season unless there are huge changes all over the team.
Strangely positive post. To the delousing sector, please.I do find it laughable people are lamenting a striker who's at the age of 22 is playing for a bottom 3 club in the league with championship level players scoring 12 goals in the prem.
You do realise the people feeding him are the likes of Johnson, sam morsy, with Jack clarke with the most assists with 4 followed by enciso with 3.
For reference Bruno has more assist than both of them combined, Amad has 6 by himself. There's no reason to think this guy wouldn;t be scoring 18-20 goals in a settled United team, especially with the addition of the likes of Cunha replacing garnacho.
Highly doubtful unless we dont improve our chance creation abilitiesGonna make a prediction, if we buy him and if he’s the main striker alongside cunha and others feeding chances, he will score 20 goals next season
I choose a positive predictionHighly doubtful unless we dont improve our chance creation abilities
Personally, I'd say we have very little chance of signing Delap considering he is wanted by Chelsea, Newcastle & Villa (?) amongst others.It doesn’t seem like he’s a realistic target. Otherwise we would have definitely gone for him given the Amorim links.
Because we need a striker and he’d get plenty of game timePersonally, I'd say we have very little chance of signing Delap considering he is wanted by Chelsea, Newcastle & Villa (?) amongst others.
Being brutally honest, I really don't see why he'd choose United as the best option for the next step in his career.
Tbf striker is one position they don't have much depth in and well, they'll be playing Champions League football next season. Not a very tough decision to make.Chelsea in the hunt apparently.
Not being funny why would anyone want to go to bloody Chelsea? They're over encumbered!
Wilcox and McKenna will play a big part i feelPersonally, I'd say we have very little chance of signing Delap considering he is wanted by Chelsea, Newcastle & Villa (?) amongst others.
Being brutally honest, I really don't see why he'd choose United as the best option for the next step in his career.
I know what you're getting at - but the lure of tying to get us back is a big lure. Plus money (but hope that's not just it).Personally, I'd say we have very little chance of signing Delap considering he is wanted by Chelsea, Newcastle & Villa (?) amongst others.
Being brutally honest, I really don't see why he'd choose United as the best option for the next step in his career.
Personally, I'd say we have very little chance of signing Delap considering he is wanted by Chelsea, Newcastle & Villa (?) amongst others.
Being brutally honest, I really don't see why he'd choose United as the best option for the next step in his career.
Yeah they definitely are, really hope we aren't putting all the eggs in one basket on thisHe isn’t going to a club to play second fiddle. I’d agree Chelsea is the main competition for us.
Many reasons. He can be a starting striker, we will have the prestige and are a bigger club, he will be presented with an attractive project, he knows Manchester.Personally, I'd say we have very little chance of signing Delap considering he is wanted by Chelsea, Newcastle & Villa (?) amongst others.
Being brutally honest, I really don't see why he'd choose United as the best option for the next step in his career.
I don't really know much about this gentleman, but I agree that if we get a somewhat clinical CF, which hopefully he turns out to be should we sign him, I can see him/whoever scoring that amount.I choose a positive prediction
Yeah certainly looks that way, we clearly are not in any financial position to take a hit on himReckon us getting Delap would indicate Hojlund staying.
Tbf striker is one position they don't have much depth in and well, they'll be playing Champions League football next season. Not a very tough decision to make.
Yeah the Champions League thing will be the deciding factor for him hence why he's waitingIm not convinced they will be, but I do see Chelsea as the biggest rival to delap. He could make himself the main striker there as much as he could here, London appeals to some players and obviously they're in a better place. If they get CL and we don't, I think Chelsea will get him over everybody else, but if they don't get CL Id still see United as the most attractive option even though we've had an awful season.
Not a bad plan. I have a feeling this thread will reach gadzillions of postsReckon us getting Delap would indicate Hojlund staying.
Reckon us getting Delap would indicate Hojlund staying.
Yeah certainly looks that way, we clearly are not in any financial position to take a hit on him
Not a bad plan. I have a feeling this thread will reach gadzillions of posts
We could well do David or even Vardy on a free and sell Hojlund
How much would it take to get Mateta?There’s a good chance he will choose to go elsewhere, especially if he is prioritising playing in Europe.
Be interesting to see who our backup options are if that does happen, Gyokeres and Osimhen have been ruled out and I can’t see us paying the 60-70m it would take to buy Sesko or Ekitike. Maybe Mateta will be the alternative.
We can’t have another season of Hojlund.
Sorry sir, won't happen again sir.Strangely positive post. To the delousing sector, please.
David might not be a good fit for the league and is certainly not overly keen on a PL move but if that is the option then we have no choice but to win the Europa League. He is not going to move to a club that is not in Europe as that is one of his stipulations for his next club.I was just about to post this, David and Delap makes perfect sense. Offset Hojlund and the NET spend would be good but PSR could take a hit if Hojlund doesn't reach that optimal fee to cover that aspect.
I also think J. David can play across the front three in one of the wider 10 positions (if necessary). Those are good options in the summer, if it materialised that's two windows INEOS have spent well relative to transfer fees and player qualities.
All of those metrics will improve away from Ipswich.Looks impressive
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Our swashbuckling style will surely improve themAll of those metrics will improve away from Ipswich.
I am guessing the team are aware of this but the realization has come a little too late as we genuinely are broke and not just crying wolf this time. We are a PLC and our accounts are public so it is no secret that we are losing money at an unsustainable rate and our cash on hand is as low as it has ever been. I am afraid that not only is the Delap + Cunha news the truth but that it is also the plan based on us getting CL football through winning the EL and there is an even less appetizing option should we fail to get into Europe.
Who exactly is gonna buy the club off INEOS?Then INEOS need to sell the team if they can't afford to buy world class players. It should be simple as that. Take away the Glazer debt UTD will have no problem buying players even without UCL. The goal should be getting back to the Madrid, Barca, City, Liverpool level.
I don't think you do with that, with Delap
What is hurting us is the fact that we have gone for nearly 10 consecutive summers going into the transfer window needing a minimum of four players just to stay competitive and sometimes it was also to replace players we would have spent hundreds of millions on.I am guessing the team are aware of this but the realization has come a little too late as we genuinely are broke and not just crying wolf this time. We are a PLC and our accounts are public so it is no secret that we are losing money at an unsustainable rate and our cash on hand is as low as it has ever been. I am afraid that not only is the Delap + Cunha news the truth but that it is also the plan based on us getting CL football through winning the EL and there is an even less appetizing option should we fail to get into Europe.
Yeah we can't do it all in one summerWhat is hurting us is the fact that we have gone for nearly 10 consecutive summers going into the transfer window needing a minimum of four players just to stay competitive and sometimes it was also to replace players we would have spent hundreds of millions on.
To stabilize this situation there are no shortcuts, we tried gambling our way out of the trouble but Arnold and Murtough utterly wet the bed. To get out of it we have to spend eliminate the weakness in the first eleven but also do it at the least cost possible. So Delap may not be a potential best striker in the league but if he comes in and matches his Ipswich output, he'd be worth it.
It's incremental and continuous improvement that will get us out of this hole. Solve what we can solve now but do it in a way that the impact of the signings is enough to make us competitive. If we get 20 to 25 league goals from them, that should be enough to put us into the top 4 or 5 dogfight.
Not to rain on your math here but you are suggesting a wildly improbable impact from 1 player alone.
Just to say 8 wins from 15 defeats means at an absolute minimum this quality striker would have to score a minimum of 16 goals in those 8 games alone. By definition if we lost a game then a single goal scored could at best turn it into a draw and so you would need multiple goals in each of these games to turn them into wins. 16 goals would be good enough for 6th highest scorer in the league this season and you are suggesting they would do this in less than a quarter of our total games played. The striker that can do this does not exist.
Realistically, a very good striker might have been worth an additional 10 to 15 points if they scored in the right games, much better than where we are but nowhere near the 70 points you suggest.
Thats right, suppose Delap comes in and averages circa 12 league goals a season for three seasons. That ought to be enough to build us up into a side where we are back in the conversation for the top end players ie where we were in 2021 after two consecutive top 3 finishes under Ole.Yeah we can't do it all in one summer
But you are overlooking the importance of the first goal, for a goal shy team like United conceding the opening goal has been fatal in matches. I don't think we would have lost to Wolves and Bournemouth, in December, if we had the ability to either score first or equalize and we did miss chances in those games. Goals change the dynamics of games, if you score first you get more opportunities for breaks.Not to rain on your math here but you are suggesting a wildly improbable impact from 1 player alone.
Just to say 8 wins from 15 defeats means at an absolute minimum this quality striker would have to score a minimum of 16 goals in those 8 games alone. By definition if we lost a game then a single goal scored could at best turn it into a draw and so you would need multiple goals in each of these games to turn them into wins. 16 goals would be good enough for 6th highest scorer in the league this season and you are suggesting they would do this in less than a quarter of our total games played. The striker that can do this does not exist.
Realistically, a very good striker might have been worth an additional 10 to 15 points if they scored in the right games, much better than where we are but nowhere near the 70 points you suggest.
Waiting? Transfer window doesn’t open until June?Yeah the Champions League thing will be the deciding factor for him hence why he's waiting
Ineos (Jim) could buy United a couple of times over, but until the Glazers stop being majority shareholders, they’re not going to keep chucking money in? I wouldn’t as minority shareholder.Then INEOS need to sell the team if they can't afford to buy world class players. It should be simple as that.
Feels like you’re fighting a one man battle in here?Wilcox and McKenna will play a big part i feel
Oh well, I think it’s the right way to approach the summerFeels like you’re fighting a one man battle in here?![]()