Greenwood cost us CL football
Letting Martial go on loan has cost us CL football.
- Thread starter Desert Eagle
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Say what you want but he would’ve given us more in attack than Rashford.
Fecking ell, that one goal he managed in Spain in all those starts would’ve made all the difference 
Utterly moronic post I’m afraid mate.
Utterly moronic post I’m afraid mate.
Based on?
Sevilla was within title challenge point gap with RM before he joined. Now they're potentially overtaken at the end of the season by Barcelona and Atletico, while leaving RM in position to walk the league point wise.
How would his impact help our position?
How would his impact help our position?
Clearly you have not watched any of his games for Sevilla, he occasionally almost breaks into a jog but then you can see him thinking "ah feck it" and he just carries on strolling about looking like the big kids stole his lunch money. On the rare occasion the ball passes near him he will occasionally attempt to connect with it but he appears to have a touch that Emile Heskey would be ashamed of. Martial quite clearly at this point doesn't like football and would rather have his pubes pulled out one by one with tweezers than kick a ball.
He's scored 2 goals this season
Martial is just an anti-United player. His attitude is appalling, he has no passion for the game.
He is one of those rare players who reached their peak as a teenager.
He is one of those rare players who reached their peak as a teenager.
That's way closer to the truth, unfortunately
Has it feck cost us anything. The guy was offering nothing. He's offered Sevilla nothing. Had he been available today he would've continued to offer United absolutely nothing.
this is an absolute joke. Its the loss of Mason that ahs actually cost us. Not this guy who even on loan is deceiving into flattery
Rashford Pogba Shaw AWB and Maguire too.
What! Martial should be kept away from this club as far as possible. Not getting a competent coach has cost us the CL.
Martial is fecking crap and couldn't be arsed putting in any effort. He'd have made absolutely no difference
Nope. Losing Greenwood has cost us. Martial was always going to go. Losing Greenwood has given us no options.
Greenwood’s goals have cost us… we have barely any options upfront. The defence being useless as also cost us. We have no set system and the players are all over the place after playing halve a season under Solskjær.
I can't agree with the OP at all.
Seriously needed a laugh after today.
One of the laziest cnuts I've ever seen on a football pitch. He would have done less than Rashford did today for the rest of the season.
I think if Greenwood was with us still we’d be comfortably 4th. Irrespective of the others.
He didn't even attempt to fight for his place with a new manager coming in. He immediately wanted to leave. No way would he have helped.
We should buy bebe and give him a new leaf. He could still be the old ronaldo under new manager and new system and a preseason
He won't have made any differences considering how he is sulking at Sevilla
He's in terrible form and with his attitude he wouldn't make it in the Championship.
Martial isn't the answer and has never been. Hipster player, always has been. Talent, not quality
Yes because he went on to win the World Cup with Sevilla.
A lot of you guys wouldn’t make very good managers, regardless of what you think of Martial he’s a striker and his attributes would be much more required than having no striker at all, it was pretty clear with CL and an injury or two we would have been short a striker but Rangnick let him go. Now there’s been a few games were we’ve been totally striker less, with a striker out on loan, I’m sorry but that’s bad management and I think we’re are even subsidising his salary it’s crazy. Donny is another weird one instead of integrating him into the team he’s sent out on loan without buying another midfielder, why? Doesn’t benefit Manchester United at all, again one injury and we are screwed. Not saying we’d definitely have gotten 4th like OP but with the right man management and team selection we’d be a damn sight closer…
From a footballing perspective Greenwood has been a much bigger miss. Not only is he a better player he actually had a bit about him when it comes to chasing games. Martial has never been one to pull his socks up
I don't know how popular Tony was within the group but there's a chance his leaving has affected morale I suppose or certainly contributed to the general malaise around the place. I
I don't know how popular Tony was within the group but there's a chance his leaving has affected morale I suppose or certainly contributed to the general malaise around the place. I
I trust Rangnick's take more than I trust Martial to play hard, though I do think the sort of 4-4-2 we've been playing with 2 false-ish 9s would have suited him nicely. Maybe we win one more game if he's here.
2 goals all season, currently being booed by Sevilla fans for lack of application.
Yeah, we miss him real bad…
Yeah, we miss him real bad…
Haha Tony would have saved to disaster of a season.... that's hilarious. Yeah put lazy Tony on the park with the rest of lazy uninterested utd players and we definitely be 4th and possibly overtaking Chelsea for 3rd.. how Tony is so hyped up I will never know.
I understand that Martial has better ball retention, and he can maybe be better at getting some flow in the final third than a guy like Rashford, he would probably play a bit better with Sancho, but the dude is barely putting a shift in at Sevilla, he's had a couple of decent performances, and has been anonymous the rest of the time. A couple of seasons ago, you'd see Martial sometimes dragging the team to a win, but you can count those on one severed hand in his entire United career, and the simple fact is he has barely made any progress at all since he's come to United (although you can say that about almost every single player that's come here).
Losing Greenwood cost us the season.
Players seemingly get better and more important for us the longer they go without playing for us. Desperation does weird things to people
Attitude / Application / Ability makes a rounded and competent footballer.
What's the odd one or two out here for Martial
I rather we play McTominay up front than that lazy bum.
Another player we better sell
Martial's attitude did that, not us loaning out a player that obviously isn't up to the level of football required from a Premier League forward.
I agree a lot of guys on here wouldn't make good managers, however I'd include you in that list. It's quite shocking how little importance so many of you place on mental attributes. It makes literally zero difference how good Martial is technically, the man doesn't want to be at United and doesn't give a toss about the club. He's a lazy sulker who put in no effort for us. He'd have made 0% improvement to our situation
Bringing Ronaldo back cost us CL football. It was a completely unnecessary signing.
Ronaldo has undermined Maguire's captaincy and impacted on Bruno's game. He has completely disrupted a forward line, which was starting to look settled last season and was scoring a lot of goals. Rashford, Martial, and Greenwood were looking settled last season, with Bruno assisting. The signing of Sancho was intended to complement a fluid forward line. Ronaldo wasn't needed.
The fact that Ronaldo is a guaranteed starter has meant that Rashford/Martial have had fewer opportunities. Of course the Greenwood situation has had a big impact but let's not pretend the football was good during the first half of the season. It was just as bad.
Ronaldo has undermined Maguire's captaincy and impacted on Bruno's game. He has completely disrupted a forward line, which was starting to look settled last season and was scoring a lot of goals. Rashford, Martial, and Greenwood were looking settled last season, with Bruno assisting. The signing of Sancho was intended to complement a fluid forward line. Ronaldo wasn't needed.
The fact that Ronaldo is a guaranteed starter has meant that Rashford/Martial have had fewer opportunities. Of course the Greenwood situation has had a big impact but let's not pretend the football was good during the first half of the season. It was just as bad.