They already have his brother Oscar, so Rasmus might even be tempted for family reasons. But I'm not sure Frankfurt would be interested in such a deal.
Let's talk strikers: who do we buy and why?
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I'd even take a punt on goancalo ramos at this point.
I think he would be great tapping in our crosses
I think he would be great tapping in our crosses
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And what’s that reason?
Hojlund is not good enough and you can’t just have 1 striker. If we need to buy 2, how we gonna fund that?
Hojlund out and getting Osimhen or Gyokeres as first striker and David as backup would basically already make for a hell of a summer
He looks good and I'd take him but as a rotation option rather than our number one striker. He has had one season at this level and it's not as if he is destroying the league as an unmissable talent. We need someone with proven track record, the jump from Ipswich and the hopeful nature of not being expected to stay up and the pressure cooker of Manchester United, where every single thing is picked apart all week, is massive. We need the balance between some good young players like him but also some proven talent ready to hit even higher peaks.
He just isn’t that good, solid all rounder but no elite traits.
People on here want to spend 60/70 million on Liam Delap, who is in no way elite, and I'm confident David would score more than him and he'd be free. These are the kind of deals clubs in our financial state are going to have to make. He would be a great back up to whatever main striking option we target and we could flip him for a profit in a few years if its not working out.
Where did the 60/70 come from?
City have a 40m buy back so the fee will be around that.
I don’t see it with David, if he was a hidden gem someone like a Brighton, Bournemouth or Brentford would of snapped him up by now.
Ah come on,we are bad but we aren't in a relegation battle,we are closer to city in 4th than 18th
Talk of UTD splashing out £80m+ not so long ago, remember? Now he's offloaded by Brighton & sitting on West Ham's bench.
Not good enough as a backup? High standards.
Very curious how you see the solution to our strikers problems??
Maeda from Celtic? Tremendous presser, hard working and now a consistent goalscorer
Well we don't have the cash for a no 1 striker to come in straight away. They'd all have to come in and take the no 1 spot for themselves. Your point about the jump from Ipswich to united is no different from say, the Portuguese league or french league. We're not shopping for the likes of Europe's best right now, we have to catch people on the upward trend with our budget.
How much would he cost roughly?
I'd say around 50-60 million
And smoothly?
Markus Krösche would probably smoothly say 100 million to start negotiations. Buying from Frankfurt isn't cheap.
Mika Biereth could be someone to look at, just signed for Monaco from Sturm Graz. He's had an excellent start there. 9 games, 10 goals.
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Three hattricks in three consecutive home games. Bought in January. Some achievement.
Probably considered too much right now
Definitely more than that after they just sold Marmoush to City for £72m. They are not in need to sell another forward so soon and Ekitike is younger than Marmoush.
United has a limited budget next season which would rely on sell to buy. I also believe that we had been asking far too much out of the striker position as well. They had to be able to create, drop deep, score goals, do the running on Rashford's behalf, do the thinking on Garnacho's behalf etc. On top of that we have to consider INEOS fetish for young players while also adding experience in the mix as we need someone whose experienced enough to actually put players in their place if they refuse to pass the ball
Which really makes me wonder if Retegui fits the bill. The 25 year old 6ft1 striker has made his bones in Argentina ie an aggressive and passionate league only to move to Italy first with Genoa and then Atalanta. He's currently the top scorer in the Serie A with 21 goals in 24 matches. Despite his 5 assists this season he's described as an old fashioned type of striker ie he's direct, he's quite quick, he's physical and he's blessed with a good eye for goal. He's got quite a good record against the top sides including an international debut goal against England, goals against Napoli, Milan and Belgium in his first season with Genoa and then goals against Juve and Napoli (2) in the current season.
He's currently got a 50m euros (41m pound sterling) minimum fee clause inserted in his contract. We might get him even cheaper if we send Hojlund on loan there for a year (ex Atalanta player), maybe with a right to buy clause.
Which really makes me wonder if Retegui fits the bill. The 25 year old 6ft1 striker has made his bones in Argentina ie an aggressive and passionate league only to move to Italy first with Genoa and then Atalanta. He's currently the top scorer in the Serie A with 21 goals in 24 matches. Despite his 5 assists this season he's described as an old fashioned type of striker ie he's direct, he's quite quick, he's physical and he's blessed with a good eye for goal. He's got quite a good record against the top sides including an international debut goal against England, goals against Napoli, Milan and Belgium in his first season with Genoa and then goals against Juve and Napoli (2) in the current season.
He's currently got a 50m euros (41m pound sterling) minimum fee clause inserted in his contract. We might get him even cheaper if we send Hojlund on loan there for a year (ex Atalanta player), maybe with a right to buy clause.
Spending big on a striker without spending well elsewhere will backfire heavily.
I think we'll spend elsewhere too.
I’d say the opposite
Many problems but a lot of them would be masked if we had a couple of forwards capable of scoring goals
You cannot mask them, they will still be instantly noticeable and a big problem.
We don't have much money, we can't do everything. I also think selling will be harder less perhaps less lucrative than some post.
The opposite is still true. Continued scoring no goals and the other areas will be instantly noticeable too
Goal win games. Wins mask issues
I'm confident we'll sign 4 or 5 players this summer.
You are assuming getting a better striker will result in a lot of new goals, and that focusing spending elsewhere won't get us more goals.
I think, looking at who we are linked with, we will get more goals but nothing crazy.
Yes. I think we’d have a significant amount more goals this season if we had a decent goalscoring forward.
There are other huge issues and many positions which need addressing. But it’s beyond any doubt that our forwards inability to score is the biggest problem
I agree our weakest position is striker, but I believe we really put more impact to it than in reality. These strikers we are linked with don't just create goals themselves.
I think he could do a Kluivert if he came to the PL to a smaller club on a free. Entering his prime and has a lot of experience.
I think we are going to sign Delap and Trafford based on nothing other than a hunch and the city link. I think Weathley could do a Delap if he got a year in the championship and a year at a lower PL club but I don't see him getting enough games to develop here with Obi in his way. Hopefully a good loan next year and we get a big fee for him to help with psr.
I really hope you're wrong. I'd imagine both would be expensive for their ability. I advocated buying Delap when he was at City but I think he has become way overrated. Has had a good season but nothing spectacular and he struggled in the championship before this season. Decent player but I just don't think he will be prolific enough for what we need. Trafford looked incredibly out of his depth when he was in the PL and I get he's young but I don't think we can afford another GKing mistake.
Are our expectations as Manchester United fans too high when it comes to picking a new striker? When I read the comments of our fans it seems like we find flaws for every striker that is being linked to our club. For example some of the arguments are Osimhen and Gyokeres are playing in weaker leagues, Osimhen only once scored over 15 league goals, Osimhen and Gyokeres don't fit the INEOS transfer policy because of their age, both of them are too expensive for INEOS, we don't need Delap because we already have two young strikers like Hojlund and Zirkzee, Delap isn't good enough for Manchester United etc.
Realistically is there a striker on the market that ticks all the boxes?
Some of the criteriums for our new striker according to all those arguments are:
- not too young but also not too old so he would fit the INEOS transfer policy
- would have an instant impact and start goals consistently since we are desperate for that type of striker
- would want to come to a club that potentially wouldn't play any european competitions next season
- would reject our other competitors that would also want to buy that striker to join us, in circumstances where probably most of those competitors are in a better situation than we are
- wouldn't have a high transfer fee because INEOS doesn't want to splash 70-80 millions pounds on a striker
- wouldn't demand wages that are too high due to our wage structure
The answer is no, there isn't a striker like that on the market. There isn't a perfect option on the market, we have to make piece with that. Whichever striker we sign in the summer, we have to make some kind of gamble with him and hope it turns out great for us.
Realistically is there a striker on the market that ticks all the boxes?
Some of the criteriums for our new striker according to all those arguments are:
- not too young but also not too old so he would fit the INEOS transfer policy
- would have an instant impact and start goals consistently since we are desperate for that type of striker
- would want to come to a club that potentially wouldn't play any european competitions next season
- would reject our other competitors that would also want to buy that striker to join us, in circumstances where probably most of those competitors are in a better situation than we are
- wouldn't have a high transfer fee because INEOS doesn't want to splash 70-80 millions pounds on a striker
- wouldn't demand wages that are too high due to our wage structure
The answer is no, there isn't a striker like that on the market. There isn't a perfect option on the market, we have to make piece with that. Whichever striker we sign in the summer, we have to make some kind of gamble with him and hope it turns out great for us.
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Osimhen on a cut price deal (he has a release clause but there’s been talks we could get him for less bc he’s fallen out with Napoli) and then Welbeck on a free for depth.
Personally think we need to prioritise a quality progressive CM and a creative number 10. Cunha and Wharton would be the ones for me
Personally think we need to prioritise a quality progressive CM and a creative number 10. Cunha and Wharton would be the ones for me
Striker is highest priority out of them all