Lets stop O'Shea playing for Ireland

Davo <img src="graemlins/yawn.gif" border="0" alt="[Yawn]" />

I am real bored of your complete ignorance of Irish football.
 
Ireland has lost its best player because MM didn`t like some heavy language.

Well what a girl`s blouse.

"He called me a wanker!!"Sob sob!!

He`ll make a good manager one day.Not
 
Originally posted by Livvie20:
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Aren't you reading the papers then?? Or listening to the radio.

Even United fans have been slating him.

And if you think it doesn't matter, it does, because Keano could have made people listen.

But I hope it's a storm in a teacup that will blow over. And I hope Keano doesn't have any long term effects from it all.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Keano did the right thing as a captain and spoke up for the team, McCarthy who's been a twat and lost plenty of respect, oh hold on he did'nt have any but Keano did the right thing and its not his fault his country are a bunch of amatuers, would you get England in economy class ffs.
For anyone who really see's the full story he has won respect <img src="graemlins/keano.gif" border="0" alt="[Keano]" />
 
Originally posted by benny:
<strong>Oh and another thing,why is a welsh twat like yourself so passionate about Roy Keane anyway?Ive never heard such bullshit in all my life.Roy Keane alongside Zidane is the best player in the world,who loves playing for his country with a driving passion-he is the single biggest reason why Ireland are playing in Japan at all.These are the facts and these are the reasons why Keane should be playing.Mccarthy was never a justifiable choice as manager,any other country and he would have been sacked a long time ago,his ineptness and downright inability to manage have been exposed on numerous occasions.Keanes complaints were 100% justified ,however they have never seriously been addressed.Keane is a true winner and he would have taken this team far in the World Cup,now that has been taken away-the final and most damaging act of Mccarthys inability to manage the Irishteam.Also the Fai have alot to answer for</strong><hr></blockquote>

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Thick Irish shocker....
 
Originally posted by Cantona 007:
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Keano did the right thing as a captain and spoke up for the team, McCarthy who's been a twat and lost plenty of respect, oh hold on he did'nt have any but Keano did the right thing and its not his fault his country are a bunch of amatuers, would you get England in economy class ffs.
For anyone who really see's the full story he has won respect <img src="graemlins/keano.gif" border="0" alt="[Keano]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

You're missing the point.

It's not about whether Keane was right or not. It's about the fact that by his actions - right or wrong - Keane is missing out on the world cup.

You can't fight the system. Sad but true.
 
Did Keane really want to play with this bunch of second rate no-hopers? He's playing for his country (I'm not Irish) He aint gonna tolerate this bunch of past-its and 'jollies' such as Quinn and Staunton - notice one ex city and the other ex L/pool! who else has won recent medals on this team? Who's won any medals at all on it?

Look at McCarthy today - 'If the team want him, thats fine'! feckin' manager my arse! fecked up, so absolve me of responsibility! The team decides not me! Keane was right, what a Wanker!

Stay at home Keane!
 
Did McCarthy's comments about the Iran game come b4 the Keane outburst or after.

Even though it might have been better if Roy hadn't lost his cool, if it was after the Iran comment, then he shouldn't have to apologise - Mick McCarthy shouldn't have gone there.
 
The whole episode is about grown men acting like Twats!
The media have had a field day.
Ireland were never going to win the World Cup anyway.
I feel sorry for the irish public, especially those who have spent their hard earned money travelling out there.
No one comes out of this with any respect.
Except Davo of course!
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Agreed red pat. Davo has the utmost integrity. He always puts his head before his heart. Unforgiving to those who believe in the best that thier captain can be. Roy is passionate and maybe out of order, but if this meeting took place as a clear the air type of meeting as is reported then only the FAI and MM can be to blame. Say what you will DAVO, I dont care if Keano showed up in a nappy crying and swearing this meeting should have been left behind closed doors. When it comes down to it MM made the mistake of his career and unfortunately another united player will be forever remember negatively in regards to the world cup. But as I said we all know that DAVO would definately say OWEN or HESKY should be sent home under similiar circumstances because he is INTEGRITY. <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> :p
 
If it was a clear the air meeting the purpose should be to get the players closer. This is the opposite of what happened. from what I have read it was obvious that Keano would act how he did. He was wrong to do so but the manager would have known how Keano might react. Both are at fault.

I read a while ago that when Ireland played away games the officials travelled first class and the players business class. This only changed after Keano complained (probably for a long time). If this is true it shows the (prawn sandwich?) mentality of the officials. I don't think much has changed. No wonder Keano said what he did. Hopefully, the loss of their best player might mean changes in the administration but I won't hold my breath.
 
Originally posted by manufanatic:
<strong>Agreed red pat. Davo has the utmost integrity. He always puts his head before his heart. Unforgiving to those who believe in the best that thier captain can be. Roy is passionate and maybe out of order, but if this meeting took place as a clear the air type of meeting as is reported then only the FAI and MM can be to blame. Say what you will DAVO, I dont care if Keano showed up in a nappy crying and swearing this meeting should have been left behind closed doors. When it comes down to it MM made the mistake of his career and unfortunately another united player will be forever remember negatively in regards to the world cup. But as I said we all know that DAVO would definately say OWEN or HESKY should be sent home under similiar circumstances because he is INTEGRITY. <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> :p </strong><hr></blockquote>

Of course I'd say they should be sent home in similar circumstances...to argue differently would be stupid..

I note you're arguing differently...

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Originally posted by Bury Red:
<strong>Where are the accurate reports of Keane verbally lambasting Mcarthy coming from?

People are quoting him as calling Mick a "fecking Wanker" repeatedly, how has this information got out of a "clearing the air sesion"?

Whenever I have had a clearing the air session it is generally a case of allowing people to get things off their chest without fear of recrimination so that progress can be made afterwards, they are certainly not quotable and especially not reported to the press.

This all sounds to me like a set up by Mcarthy who could surely not have expected Keano to back down, he isn't that stupid is he?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Look Bury,
Whatever the circumstances are, you cannot say that to your manager, be it in football or in business. You may be as good as you want to be, but you'll find yourself looking for a new job.

And in this case it was made even worse by the fact that his collegues were there. Put any manager with any player in that situation and the decision is the same. Be it McCarthy-Keane, Busby-Charlton, Ferguson-Beckham, Houllier-Owen or whatever.

Whatever the situation was, calling your manager names is not going to sort things. And caling him an 'English cnut', a 'crap manager' and things like that is just plain stupid.
 
&gt;&gt;Your entire defence is based on two factors...

&gt;&gt;1) That Keane is not in the wrong??
&gt;&gt;2) That I'm an ABU

&gt;&gt;Just how stupid are you?

F*** me how many times do I have to say it. Once more in the vain hope that you get it: "he was wrong to shout and swear at people".

Shall I write it again in case there is something in there you don't understand?

He was wrong in the manner of making his point, but right in what he said about the Irish FA.

Of course the second part of this argument is of no consquence to you, because it does not fit your agenda.


And can you quote me on where I said you were and "ABU".

Post all you like on here about Keane "being a twat" like many of your posts on here they shed no light on anything except your personal orgasm about being on the moral high ground. Congratulations. Hope there is some oxygen up there one day to wake your cerebral cortex.

&gt;&gt;The rest of the squad want to play in the WC as &gt;&gt;you point out..so why have they threatened to &gt;&gt;pull out to a man if unfalliable Keane returns?

And suddenly we find this team in which nobody wants him are trying to find a way back for him.