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I would just be hyped to have a Jamaican at Manchester United. Yes I am biased.
I would just be hyped to have a Jamaican at Manchester United. Yes I am biased.
Where is that guy anyway?If he fails you will be haunted forever, just like Depay's agent, Nlmax.
... An orthodox winger with real pace is actually what we need. Memphis is shite, and will be booted. Bailey actually has pace, and a lot of it. His better games this season have actually come in the Europa League, against teams like Sassuolo and Bilbao.If there's something we really don't need, then it's another young winger that showed his class in one of the lowest leagues in Europe. With Martial, and Memphis that spot is covered, and he really isn't as good as both of them.
Martial has pace, and isn't going to be moved to strikers position anytime soon (Zlatan just said he will stay another year, and then there's still Rooney, and Rashford who Mourinho prefers as strikers). I just don't see any reason for him to join our ranks, I would prefer someone more solid, that has already shown that he's able to perform at the highest level... An orthodox winger with real pace is actually what we need. Memphis is shite, and will be booted. Bailey actually has pace, and a lot of it. His better games this season have actually come in the Europa League, against teams like Sassuolo and Bilbao.
There isn't really any established wingers out there that won't cost the earth or aren't washed up.Martial has pace, and isn't going to be moved to strikers position anytime soon (Zlatan just said he will stay another year, and then there's still Rooney, and Rashford who Mourinho prefers as strikers). I just don't see any reason for him to join our ranks, I would prefer someone more solid, that has already shown that he's able to perform at the highest level
Martial has pace, and isn't going to be moved to strikers position anytime soon (Zlatan just said he will stay another year, and then there's still Rooney, and Rashford who Mourinho prefers as strikers). I just don't see any reason for him to join our ranks, I would prefer someone more solid, that has already shown that he's able to perform at the highest level
You've already given up on mhicky? I still think he can come good, he barely played for us...But sometimes that doesn't work out too - look at Mickey
The league altogether has been a right mess for the big Belgium teams this season, pretty much all of them (Anderlecht, Brugge, Genk, Gent and Liege) have all been wildly inconsistent this year. The two top teams are Zulte Waregem and Oostende at the moment, who are both respectable teams, but not the biggest/best by any means. It's been a really awkward season in the Belgium league so far. It should even itself out soon enough though.He and Genk are only playing well in the EL? How come Genk are so average in their league
You've already given up on mhicky? I still think he can come good, he barely played for us...
Ronaldo wasn't unheard of,as such, we just moved quicker as there were clubs sniffing aroundNot at all. Just trying to counter the argument that we always need to sign "galacticos"
Ronaldo was unheard of. Look how he turned out. Yes for every Christiano there are five times or more "punts" that fail. But this kid seems worth a try
That's true, and I don't think we should always buy "galacticos", I'm very pro getting young guys in the team, but not too many. I actually think we've got enough talent at the moment with Bailly, TFM, Pogba, Memphis, Martial, Rashford, and our loaned out players Januzaj, and Pereira. With Memphis, Martial, Januzaj, and sometimes Rashford I'm not sure we need another young winger. Maybe first sell others than instead of putting them on the bench. I'm all for selling Memphis if he isn't going to get playtime.Not at all. Just trying to counter the argument that we always need to sign "galacticos"
Ronaldo was unheard of. Look how he turned out. Yes for every Christiano there are five times or more "punts" that fail. But this kid seems worth a try
That's true, and I don't think we should always buy "galacticos", I'm very pro getting young guys in the team, but not too many. I actually think we've got enough talent at the moment with Bailly, TFM, Pogba, Memphis, Martial, Rashford, and our loaned out players Januzaj, and Pereira. With Memphis, Martial, Januzaj, and sometimes Rashford I'm not sure we need another young winger. Maybe first sell others than instead of putting them on the bench. I'm all for selling Memphis if he isn't going to get playtime.
Ronaldo wasn't unheard of,as such, we just moved quicker as there were clubs sniffing around
That's far from the truth. In Italy Ronaldo was closely followed by at least 2 clubs which were Juventus and Parma (at the time Sacchi was a director). The latter went bust and the former thought it would be stupid to spend £12m on a young talent who used to dribble his way to the corner flag without producing anything tangible.
We didn't 'discover' Ronaldo. We were the only once ready to match the price his club wanted for him
Er, am I missing something Devlish..that's pretty much what I was alluding to in my original satement
No probs. Just finding the belief that Ronaldo crawled out of some desert rock and we were there to 'discover,' him somewhat laughableI haven't seen the n't in wasn't and got pissed off by that claim and stopped reading the rest. Sorry
That's far from the truth. In Italy Ronaldo was closely followed by at least 2 clubs which were Juventus and Parma (at the time Sacchi was a director). The latter went bust and the former thought it would be stupid to spend £12m on a young talent who used to dribble his way to the corner flag without producing anything tangible.
We didn't 'discover' Ronaldo. We were the only once ready to match the price his club wanted for him
No probs. Just finding the belief that Ronaldo crawled out of some desert rock and we were there to 'discover,' him somewhat laughable
No probs. Just finding the belief that Ronaldo crawled out of some desert rock and we were there to 'discover,' him somewhat laughable
Exactly, it was after he tore our defenders a new one in a friendly that Giggs et al urged SAF to nab him quick or risk losing himWasn't he meant to go to Real initially?
Wenger initially turned him down apparentlyWasn't he meant to go to Real initially?
Wenger initially turned him down apparently
Heard that one too. The most concrete one I've seen is that Real wanted him to stay at Sporting for a couple of years then make the move. We just jumped in with too much money at the time (9m up front + 3m in bonuses), and they actually tried to match that but SAF sold us to him already.
Wenger told Arsenal sponsor Huawei he was close to bringing Ronaldo to north London before he signed for Manchester United in 2003.
The forward went on to star for the Red Devils, leading Sir Alex Ferguson's side to four Premier League titles and a Champions League triumph before departing in an 80 million-pound move to Real Madrid in 2009.
"My biggest regret? I was so close to signing Cristiano Ronaldo, and not only did I not get him, he signed for Manchester United. So that of course still hurts today," he stated.
That's the best part of the storyWenger initially turned him down apparently
Liverpool for one were very interested in signing him.
I remember that at one time Quaresma was considered a safer bet then Ronaldo and we all know how that ended
In lots of shite tattoos and haircuts.
Many Portuguese players who were 2-3 years older then Ronaldo had failed to make an impact. Postiga, Viana and Quaresma to name a few. Ronaldo was followed by Nani, Bebe and Anderson who hardly left a good impression for us either. Portuguese talent tend to go to extremes. They are either great (Figo, Ronaldo, Carvalho, Deco ) or meah bordering to the crap.
I though Nani was a good player TBH.
I feel sorry for Nani TBH. He had to live in Ronaldo’s shadows, whom he tried to emulate both in terms of the good things (ie dribbling, unpredictability and creativity) and in the bad things (lack of backtracking) and that ruined him. He simply didn’t had the explosive talent to force SAF to build the team around him as he did with Ronaldo (tbf Ronaldo was the third and last player SAF built a team around, the other two being Cantona and RVN with the latter being a forced decision rather then a matter of choice).
In my opinion, Nani should have tried to emulate Giggs instead. Similarly to the Welsh wizard, Nani was more of a traditional winger, ie he had great technique, a good cross and on his day he was unstoppable. However similarly to Giggs he had to backtrack and work hard for the team like the rest.