The one when he got Atletico Madrid relegated, or at Inter when most appearance he made was 14 times a season. Hmm.. tough choice
La Liga/Serie A/Bundesliga Draft
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Agreed with that appraisal. Do think it was rather surprising that he wasn't picked earlier but the forward pool is really deep in all fairness.
My tag didn't come up, I didn't know it was my pick.
Excited to welcome this little wing-wizard to the team:
- KM /Cal? - 1. Zlatan 2. Reus 3. Buchwald 4. Albertini 5. Boban 6. Filipe Luis 7. Griezmann 8. Senna 9. Piszczek
- Downcast/KirkDuyt - 1. Neymar 2. Yaya Touré 3. Falcao 4. Di Maria 5. Maicon 6. Özil 7. Heinrich 8. Vieira 9. Stankovic
- Gio - 1. Nedved 2. Veron 3. Reuter 4. Deschamps 5. Puyol 6. Bratseth 7. Careca 8. Michel 9. Thon
- Enigma_87/Snow - 1. Kaka 2. Villa 3. Lucio 4. Modric 5. Schneider 6. Marcelo 7. Helmer 8. Salgado 9. Conte
- Crappycraperson - 1. Totti 2. Savićević 3. Bale 4. Kroos 5. Popescu 6. Jorginho 7. Jeremies 8. Grosso 9. Gamarra
- Joga Bonito/Balu - 1. Bergomi 2. Xabi Alonso 3. Dani Alves 4. Häßler 5. Forlán 6. Ferri 7. Dunga 8. Aimar 9. Crespo
- mazhar13/Boycott - 1. Shevchenko 2. Aldair 3. Donadoni 4. Luis Enrique 5. Cocu 6. Pique 7. Chendo 8. Kahn 9. Serginho
- VivaJanuzaj/MJJ - 1. Müller 2. Eto'o 3. Guardiola 4. T. Silva 5. Samuel 6. Abidal 7. Sneijder 8. Khedira 9. Robinho
- RedTiger - 1. Ballack 2. Zambrotta 3 Ayala 4. Vidal 5. Aguero 6. Paulo Sousa 7. Panucci 8. Francescoli 9. Wörns
- Aldo/The Stain - 1. Davids 2. Littbarski 3. Mendieta 4. Montero 5. Makaay 6. Henry 7. Mascherano 8. Angloma 9. Candela
- Marty1968 - 1. Seedorf 2. Costacurta 3. Berthold 4. Gattuso 5. Scholl 6. Benarrivo 7.Babbel 8. Butragueño
- Sjor Bepo/anant - 1. Stam 2. Alaba 3. Camoranesi 4. Godin 5. Gündoğan 6. Kluivert 7. Javi Martinez 8. Gascoigne
- Isotope - 1. Cafu 2. Weah 3. Ze Roberto 4. Mauro Silva 5. Hummels 6. Signori 7. Sanchis 8. van Bommel
- Skizzo/Pat_Mustard - 1. Hierro 2. Ruggeri 3. Klinsmann 4. Bebeto 5. Möller 6. Chiellini 7. Baraja 8. Ziege
- Tuppet - 1. R. Carlos 2. Zanetti 3. Völler 4. Ferrara 5. Riquelme 6. B. Laudrup 7. Nadal 8. De Rossi
- Edgar Allan Pillow - 1. B Lizarazu 2. W Sagnol 3. C Vieri 4. J Boateng 5. D Simeone 6. E Cambiasso 7. Deco 8. F de Boer
Lahm, Schweinsteiger, Busquets, Romario, Redondo, Xavi, Rijkaard, Ronaldinho, Maradona, Messi, Luis Ronaldo, Cristiano Ronaldo, Robben, Ribery, Lewandowski, Van Basten, Baresi, Maldini, Matthaus, Nesta, Kohler, Van Nistelrooy, Suarez, Zidane, Buffon, Casillas, Neuer, Sammer, M. Laudrup, Gullit, Batistuta, Baggio, Pirlo, Stoichkov, Desailly, Thuram, Brehme, Tassotti, Iniesta, Koeman, Raul, Rui Costa, Del Piero, Figo, Rivaldo, Effenberg, Cannavaro, Makelele.
@Marty1968
My favourite player ATM for each team:
Thanks. Never too late to understand the consensus here on the spirit of the game. Hard for a French to ignore Vieira!
You also have a MONSTER: Vieri. Sorry if I oversell
My understanding:the best performances occurred in your chosen league.
For instance, we don't need to attribute a club to Crespo.
- KM /Cal? - Zlatan
- Gio - Veron
- Enigma_87/Snow - Modric
- Crappycraperson - Totti
- Joga Bonito/Balu - Crespo
- mazhar13/Boycott - Aldair
- VivaJanuzaj/MJJ - T.Silva
- RedTiger - Ayala
- Aldo/The Stain - Davids
- Marty1968 - Seedorf
- Sjor Bepo/anant - Kluivert
- Isotope - Mauro Silva
- Skizzo/Pat_Mustard - Klinsmann
- Tuppet - Zanetti
- Edgar Allan Pillow - Deco
Thanks. Never too late to understand the consensus here on the spirit of the game. Hard for a French to ignore Vieira!
You also have a MONSTER: Vieri. Sorry if I oversell
My understanding:the best performances occurred in your chosen league.
For instance, we don't need to attribute a club to Crespo.
As promised, some Robinho gifs to see how good he was on his peak:
debut for madrid
A nice goal after beating the RB
scoring from the right wing as well
Silk run between the lines, receives a lovely pass from Kaka and calmly slots it
debut for madrid
A nice goal after beating the RB
scoring from the right wing as well
Silk run between the lines, receives a lovely pass from Kaka and calmly slots it
You also have a MONSTER: Vieri. Sorry if I oversell
My understanding:the best performances occurred in your chosen league.
For instance, we don't need to attribute a club to Crespo.
There is no need oversell. Vieri was a monster in Serie A
You don't have to attribute to a club, but to the league. If played in multiple clubs, then naming the club makes it clear where the peak was supposed to be. Makes discussions easier.
French flanks.
That would be my understanding too. In most cases it will probably be clear enough where the player did his best work (within the chosen league), but it won't necessarily be clear, nor do you have to state which club your man represents (only which league he represents).
Crespo is an interesting case in point, I'd argue. His first Inter spell, for instance, was short lived and marred by injuries - but the player himself, while actually fit, wasn't any worse than he was at either Lazio or Parma.
But it's a moot point, as you don't have to choose between the various Serie A incarnations.
Paulo Futre
- KM /Cal? - 1. Zlatan 2. Reus 3. Buchwald 4. Albertini 5. Boban 6. Filipe Luis 7. Griezmann 8. Senna 9. Piszczek
- Downcast/KirkDuyt - 1. Neymar 2. Yaya Touré 3. Falcao 4. Di Maria 5. Maicon 6. Özil 7. Heinrich 8. Vieira 9. Stankovic
- Gio - 1. Nedved 2. Veron 3. Reuter 4. Deschamps 5. Puyol 6. Bratseth 7. Careca 8. Michel 9. Thon
- Enigma_87/Snow - 1. Kaka 2. Villa 3. Lucio 4. Modric 5. Schneider 6. Marcelo 7. Helmer 8. Salgado 9. Conte
- Crappycraperson - 1. Totti 2. Savićević 3. Bale 4. Kroos 5. Popescu 6. Jorginho 7. Jeremies 8. Grosso 9. Gamarra
- Joga Bonito/Balu - 1. Bergomi 2. Xabi Alonso 3. Dani Alves 4. Häßler 5. Forlán 6. Ferri 7. Dunga 8. Aimar 9. Crespo
- mazhar13/Boycott - 1. Shevchenko 2. Aldair 3. Donadoni 4. Luis Enrique 5. Cocu 6. Pique 7. Chendo 8. Kahn 9. Serginho
- VivaJanuzaj/MJJ - 1. Müller 2. Eto'o 3. Guardiola 4. T. Silva 5. Samuel 6. Abidal 7. Sneijder 8. Khedira 9. Robinho
- RedTiger - 1. Ballack 2. Zambrotta 3 Ayala 4. Vidal 5. Aguero 6. Paulo Sousa 7. Panucci 8. Francescoli 9. Wörns
- Aldo/The Stain - 1. Davids 2. Littbarski 3. Mendieta 4. Montero 5. Makaay 6. Henry 7. Mascherano 8. Angloma 9. Candela
- Marty1968 - 1. Seedorf 2. Costacurta 3. Berthold 4. Gattuso 5. Scholl 6. Benarrivo 7.Babbel 8. Butragueño 9. Zamorano
- Sjor Bepo/anant - 1. Stam 2. Alaba 3. Camoranesi 4. Godin 5. Gündoğan 6. Kluivert 7. Javi Martinez 8. Gascoigne 9. Futre
- Isotope - 1. Cafu 2. Weah 3. Ze Roberto 4. Mauro Silva 5. Hummels 6. Signori 7. Sanchis 8. van Bommel
- Skizzo/Pat_Mustard - 1. Hierro 2. Ruggeri 3. Klinsmann 4. Bebeto 5. Möller 6. Chiellini 7. Baraja 8. Ziege
- Tuppet - 1. R. Carlos 2. Zanetti 3. Völler 4. Ferrara 5. Riquelme 6. B. Laudrup 7. Nadal 8. De Rossi
- Edgar Allan Pillow - 1. B Lizarazu 2. W Sagnol 3. C Vieri 4. J Boateng 5. D Simeone 6. E Cambiasso 7. Deco 8. F de Boer
Lahm, Schweinsteiger, Busquets, Romario, Redondo, Xavi, Rijkaard, Ronaldinho, Maradona, Messi, Luis Ronaldo, Cristiano Ronaldo, Robben, Ribery, Lewandowski, Van Basten, Baresi, Maldini, Matthaus, Nesta, Kohler, Van Nistelrooy, Suarez, Zidane, Buffon, Casillas, Neuer, Sammer, M. Laudrup, Gullit, Batistuta, Baggio, Pirlo, Stoichkov, Desailly, Thuram, Brehme, Tassotti, Iniesta, Koeman, Raul, Rui Costa, Del Piero, Figo, Rivaldo, Effenberg, Cannavaro, Makelele.
@Isotope
I think Crespo was definitely better in Lazio & Parma. The fact that his injuries made his Inter time short meant he only showed glimpses of what he could do and the difference between that and the consistent striker he will later become is very different! At Lazio & Parma he was a brutal striker with pace, power, technique - you name it, one of the top in the world these seasons, whereas in Inter he never made the same impact. Injuries or not, you can't just presume that without them he'd be as good and the bottom line is that he should be judged by his time in Lazio & Parma because these were his "peak" years.
Almost 40 hours since our last pick
@Balu now you see why we need cricket drafts as well. And I don't even watch cricket.
@Balu now you see why we need cricket drafts as well. And I don't even watch cricket.
You can play Cricket drafts without having watched Cricket? Maybe I should give it a try and I don't even know the rules.Almost 40 hours since our last pick
@Balu now you see why we need cricket drafts as well. And I don't even watch cricket.
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I tried to read the game threads but it looks like jibberish
Dude spoiler that. NSFW!
The idea is to get more voters for the matches or to urge managers to submit their picks?
Utterly moot point for several reasons, but if you're looking at the player's career trajectory it's evident that he doesn't suddenly drop down a level when he moves to Inter (that happens some time into his injury ridden and much longer spell at Chelsea).
You'd never argue that his Inter spell amounted to anything, let alone a peak in any meaningful sense, but that's a purely technical point - only relevant to these drafts.
Again, though - moot as moot can be.
Can this move any slower?
I can see that. Going by stats and lists. Can't believe you skipped Viv though!
I took the first round criticisms about my bowling to the extreme, and decided to skip him for a bowler. Big mistake I realized after
should have asked someone for feedback. Ah well. Better than my first attempt Well, you can look at my attempt from the cricket draft before this and see how badly it can turn out
lot more research intensive too without knowing the players. Fun though.Once the conversations got in depth, I just stopped bothering to try and BS my way through
if people thought my team would win, great, because I certainly wouldn't be able to persuade anyone I took the first round criticisms about my bowling to the extreme, and decided to skip him for a bowler. Big mistake I realized after
Well, you can look at my attempt from the cricket draft before this and see how badly it can turn out
Once the conversations got in depth, I just stopped bothering to try and BS my way through
Is it more objective than the football drafts or is it just seems that way? There are a lots of stats in those threads
Seems like it. People discussing pitches, bounce, bowling conditions etc. comparing stats across eras, and in different countries.
Cricket is more individualistic than football. You can get stats about how/where/when a batsman faced a bowler. Ground conditions also matter a lot. Certain players are better when playing in certain venues/countries etc. 30% stats and 70% fantasy outlook.
Cricket drafts have more tangibles because while the sport is a team game it's decided by individual performances.
In football you've got your transition players. The ones who go under the radar and whose role can work in your team but hard to replicate in another. Cricket's more difficult since you can't carry or cover up a weak(er) spot. They'll be called out.
Nonetheless play style is important to gauge how a player can deal with your opponents. Stats are there to back it up.
You know things are moving painfully slowly when you see a football draft thread discuss cricket drafts.
Sharapova
Also - this.
Even in a strong striker pool, Crespo was a standout who I thought would have gone a few rounds earlier. Should dovetail well with Aimar for Joga/Balu.
Sharapova
Looks to be a mistake. She was on that for medications from before and it was added to the banned list only in 2016.