In his last season at Milan where he scored the most goals in Italy he only had Robinho around him. The brazilian was garbage in that season. Zlatan was the main source of goals. Milan had Nocerino playing in a boxbox-role similar to Ballack here. He got 10 goals. Four more than Robinho.
To me the BuLi has a bit of slower pace in general compared to La Liga, for Seria A you certainly have a point of course but that's really contrast in styles compared to the two other leagues. Of course have no idea how it was in the 80's. Judging by the amount of goals scored/conceded on average it might that be the case.
Well, it was probably when you compared them and used them as an example that your midfield would work in a defensive set-up?
I don't think that's true outside of Bayern games and Bayern games under Guardiola's style aren't really a good representation for the league. It's at the moment quite clearly dominated by fast and direct transition tactics influenced by Klopp's Dortmund side more than anything else. La Liga is a lot more technical and well thought out in the build-up than the Bundesliga. Guardiola actually made that comparison a few times when he complained how much a counterattacking league it is.
Thanks.
Rightio! Well, i think the post explains how that would work as well. I'm sure Nedved/Ballack/Michel had a couple seasons each with 10+ goals so i don't see it as a problem.
Found this 13 second run on another page I was researching him at. Insane goal if nothing else
In Muller and Eto'o you probably do have more combined goalscoring in there. My counter argument is that they'll be starved of service because the midfield will be throttled. And the game is really set up for Ballack to get on the end of something from out wide, or for Ibra to tee up one for him or Veron or Nedved. Or for Ibra simply to translate the midfield control into goal(s).
Sums up how voters work in this game. Get a good midfield and the rest matters nothing because possession possession possession. Thank god you gave a feck and read any of the tactics regarding that
The way I base the player performance is his whole form during his peak at the set period. For example Roy Makaay. I don't take into consideration his Deportivo days but I do take into his European and NT form during his Bayern peak. I don't think you can discount one thing when it's all connected. It gets a little more difficult when you have a player like Ciro Ferrara who might not have had a definitive peak at Juve but more of the same kind of consistency throughout his whole time there. Isolating one season out of all that shebang would be fine by me but not necessarily enough for others.
What do you suggest? Should I stick Sensini on him?
How not? By playing him as the line-leader with space to drop into? By flanking him with genuine width to create space? By combining him with hard workers to do the dirty work for him? It's a pretty tasty fit for Ibra I have to say.
I don't think that's true. Enigma and I beat AldoStain and he had the best midfield paring in the draft. There are more factors at play. Sometimes its as simple as having a single player in your team to get one vote. People have a massive hard-on for Riquelme for example in these drafts despite him being far behind many, many players in a similar position in his career.
My game against Enigma_87 was exactly the opposite.
What do you suggest? Should I stick Sensini on him?
Let's be honest, both Ballack and Veron are good fits in there and Ballack in particular has a superb engine.
How not? By playing him as the line-leader with space to drop into? By flanking him with genuine width to create space? By combining him with hard workers to do the dirty work for him? It's a pretty tasty fit for Ibra I have to say.
That's a pretty compelling argument to be fair.
That's the thing - your midfield can work, but Pep's Barca (again you comparing your midfield with the one that's totally different from yours) never sat back and soaked pressure, like you intent to. Busquets/Toure + Xavi + Iniesta played to their strengths - which is ball retention, passing and pressing. From your midfield three only Snejider is comfortable playing like Inter did, for example, and he wasn't the key defensive player for them - Pep would be very uncomfortable playing that way and even Khedira impressed me more when he played for a dominating team (not surprisingly and not that he impressed me greatly tbf, he is by far the worst midfielder on the pitch, especially when we point out that it isn't even La Liga's Khedira)
That comparison matters a lot because it's the best that we have to judge the players job. When you say he's going to be exactly like that it suggests that other roles need to be compensated for in order to allow Sneijder to function exactly like you describe.
I'll also add that Khedira is also instructed to help Sagnol against Nedved and given their tactic of keeping Dejan forward the whole time Khedira inevitably would have to help out or else it will be 2v1. A giant task for him all things considered and I don't really rate him all that much to be able to accomplish that.
I think it's obvious throughout the league right now. Teams like Hertha, Augsburg, Mainz, even Hannover a few years ago when they reached the EL quarterfinals were direct teams that excelled through quick transitions. Leverkusen right now is an even more extreme example. If we go back through the decade it's a bit more difficult to determine, because the Bundesliga didn't have a defining style compared to the other 3 top leagues in my opinion, at least since the 70's. The 60's and 70's were different but that's a complex discussion for a different time.
Müller's always awesome. Not the biggest fan of him on the left for the simple reason that his game is more one dimensional than on the right. On the right he can still work like a typical winger, run down the line, cut back or put a cross in. His left foot is pretty weak though (good enough for weird finishes in the box of course, but not that much more) and when he played on the left, his strength as a free roaming forward were still there. But from a right footed winger played on the left, you expect more dribbling, cutting inside with the ball. He doesn't offer that.
But what do you think about VJ?
Agreed.
