La Liga Match-fixing trial
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How does the prosecution go about proving that the Zaragoza players had knowledge of what was happening? Has anyone come forward with information which would prove that the players knew what the money was being paid for?
Reading what happened in 2011 makes it a likelier case money laundering then match fixing. I mean it would be easier to prove money laundering then match fixing. Also, aren't there any charges of tax evasion on the players. If the entire transaction would have been structured in the manner so that the players involved don't end up paying tax on the money given to them surely this would also be a case of tax evasion for the players of Zaragoza.
Reading what happened in 2011 makes it a likelier case money laundering then match fixing. I mean it would be easier to prove money laundering then match fixing. Also, aren't there any charges of tax evasion on the players. If the entire transaction would have been structured in the manner so that the players involved don't end up paying tax on the money given to them surely this would also be a case of tax evasion for the players of Zaragoza.
Yeah, that's my impression too. Considered as a money laundering "scheme" it seems incredibly transparent, not to say stupid, though. So, in that sense you could perhaps argue that the players should have questioned what the money was actually for to a larger extent than they apparently did.
Then again footballers aren't known for being razor sharp, I suppose.
Let's say they're charged with having contributed to the laundering of money and/or tax evasion: The punishment for this is relative to the amount of money involved, isn't it? And it would be considered on an individual basis. Doesn't seem like the sort of thing you'd get locked up for, really - on the face of it.
If Herrera is banned will it;
a) be issued by Spanish FA
b) i imagine it will only affect Spanish games?
or is this a criminal case?
a) be issued by Spanish FA
b) i imagine it will only affect Spanish games?
or is this a criminal case?
Tax avoidance is surely a criminal case, whereas match fixing is dealt with by the Spanish FA I should imagine.
Unless players were stupid enough to go about blabbing about the money to random people or sending texts to each other about it then I don't see how they can be anything more than unknowing accomplices. Of course, that's not to say that they didn't know what the intention was, but it's up to the prosecution to prove it which may be tricky.
Unless players were stupid enough to go about blabbing about the money to random people or sending texts to each other about it then I don't see how they can be anything more than unknowing accomplices. Of course, that's not to say that they didn't know what the intention was, but it's up to the prosecution to prove it which may be tricky.
I don't know the ins and outs, but given the way football is a global game these days, I'd be amazed if Uefa didn't extend the ban to all of European football... or Fifa to all of competitive Fifa sanctioned world football.
I'd be surprised if he was banned, but if he is then he's compeltely fecked.
Yeah Money Laundering seems quite transparent. Not an expert on Spanish/EU Law but I think that once the facts are established the burden of proof would be on the accused, in this case the players, to prove the bonafides of the transaction. A defence of 'I just did what the club asked me to do' may not be accepted. And if that defence is put forward it really raises the questions of whether this was regularly done at the club for the players to simply follow such suspicious instructions.
Re: Punishment - In India at least, money laundering is a criminal offence and would almost every time result in a prison sentence.
There isn't a single reason that wouldn't most likely be illegal. It's not like the owner can say 'argh my internet banking is fecking up, won't let me transfer to him directly so I'll send it to you and you send to him, cool?'.
Kin hell. What was he thinking? If Herrera withdrew cash and gave it to somebody else he's fecked.
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Do footballers actually think? That's a new one. If he left the money in his account he was fecked as well. If he withdrew the money, who did he give it to. If the owner just told him to give it back to a club representative from Zaragoza, he could still plead ignorance. That it was a adminstrative cock up or that he was told it was a tax dodge by the club. If he gave it to someone connected with Levante, that isn't looking good. Whatever it is he won't get away with no punishment. It just depends what it is and what he is charged with. If he avoids jail, then he still has a future. If not if depends what the club want to do. He has cost us a hell of a lot of money. You cannot just write that off. The club will be on the ball about the circumstances.
Kin hell. What was he thinking? If Herrera withdrew cash and gave it to somebody else he's fecked.
If you look at the side of the Redcafe. Ander has issued a statement of Facebook. He is happy to give evidence and he is getting a lot of support of fans.
If he has been named as a witness along with other players then possibly the prosecution is not bringing a case for alleged match fixing against the players for their co-operation in the investigation and the trial. Don't know whether this would absolve him from money laundering and tax evasion charges, if brought after this trial is over.
Well, if worst comes to worst we can always send down those three imposters we used in our first attempt to sign Ander. I'm sure they're more than capable of using their guile to spring him from some low security Spanish nick.
We could take the SON off a certain person's shirt and send him instead. Two birds with one stone.
Poor old Anderson.
Good idea though.History has taught us that they'd feck it up anyway by going to a different trial.
He obviously didn't complete his annual money laundering training, or he'd have known better.