Without Messi the squad is a little more than average, the game in Sevilla proves what I'm saying.
Suarezzz! The pass from MessiMessi and Alba are a brilliant combo and even Suarez couldn't mess that up.
Not one game proves anything, especially away to Sevilla. They beat Madrid 5-1 without Messi ffs. Every game has its own story.
The squad is full of world class players who are the absolute best at what they do with capable back ups in nearly every single position. It's the best squad in the world, the constant need of Messi fans to downplay it is truly remarkable. The fact so many get wound up when I point it out but refuse to name one better team says everything really.
There isn't one star player in world football as lucky as Lionel Messi when it comes to the squad around him. There also isn't one star player in world football whose fans love to shit on the squad around that player more than you guys. It was funny at the World Cup but now it's hilarious.
Here you go, all from the past 2 years just to give an example:
Yup, that's arguably just the best striker in the world Luis Suarez there. Now imagine if Messi was playing next to Giroud and Kalinic like Griezmann, next to Mandzukic and André Silva like Ronaldo, next to Morata and Lukaku like Hazard, next to Cavani and Jesus like Neymar, etc.
That's just one example to show the sort of thing I'm talking about. It's prevalent in most sports forums. Just wait and see how extreme it gets if Barcelona actually fail to win the Champions League this season.
Not one game proves anything, especially away to Sevilla. They beat Madrid 5-1 without Messi ffs. Every game has its own story.
The squad is full of world class players who are the absolute best at what they do with capable back ups in nearly every single position. It's the best squad in the world, the constant need of Messi fans to downplay it is truly remarkable. The fact so many get wound up when I point it out but refuse to name one better team says everything really.
There isn't one star player in world football as lucky as Lionel Messi when it comes to the squad around him. There also isn't one star player in world football whose fans love to shit on the squad around that player more than you guys. It was funny at the World Cup but now it's hilarious.
Here you go, all from the past 2 years just to give an example:
Yup, that's arguably just the best striker in the world Luis Suarez there. Now imagine if Messi was playing next to Giroud and Kalinic like Griezmann, next to Mandzukic and André Silva like Ronaldo, next to Morata and Lukaku like Hazard, next to Cavani and Jesus like Neymar, etc.
That's just one example to show the sort of thing I'm talking about. It's prevalent in most sports forums. Just wait and see how extreme it gets if Barcelona actually fail to win the Champions League this season.
.So everyone that says we don't have such a mighty squad is just a Messi fanboy looking for apologies right?. You're the guru of objectivism because you totally won't try to turn the debate around how good are our players and how one particular superstar underperforms years after year with them, when you don't have any interest to put another player above him.
A couple days ago you talked about agenda and narrative, like anyone who has more than 5 posts in the mvr thread is free of any sin and doesn't act on a totally biased way.
Best striker in the world has had stinkers in 95% percent of the UCL games in the past 3 seasons yet you insist on pointing at him as the best, if the 10 was on the back of that shirt you'd be digging his grave
unreal.You what? No, that most certainly is not a fact.
If they kept playing so well sooner or later the big clubs would come to gett their best players and even Setien.
Disagree. The 5-1 was a battering. We had a great 20 minutes early in the second half and could have even equilized sure, but in the other 70 minutes you were good for 5 goals. This time, while you were probably the better team, and certainly controlled most of the match, it was a fairly even affair
Yeah, i meant best chance the win the game after the 1-1
City don't have Messi
Already getting your excuses ready. Really convenient.
Wonder how much is left of that "fanbase" after Messi retires.Worst fanbase in the world bar none. There is no support for anyone whatsoever. Even booed one of their own legends, Luis Enrique, who won them the treble and double because of 1 average season. Imagine calling Ole names after he wins treble and double but then wins only the Cup in his third season.
Real Madrid, Juve, City, Psg, Bayern, Liverpool. All of them are better teams than Barcelona without Messi.
The only decent midfielder they have is Pjanic and he's sucked this season. Definitely wouldn't start for Barca ahead of Arthur, Busquets or Rakitic.That's a load of nonsense. Seriously woow!
Barca have a comfortably better squad than City.
Valverde is also not average. The Barca fanbase is average, if anything. Actually below average: appaling is the fitting word.
Man goes unbeaten 37 league games, wins the double, is in pole position in every competition again, several blowouts in Clasicos (3-0 in Bernabeu, 5-1 at home, even without Messi) and they think they have an average manager because of 1 loss when the entire team mentally switched off for 90 minutes after a 4-1 first leg result.
They think Suarez, the guy who is already Barca's top 5 top scorers of all time and will end up 2nd highest by the time he retires, is average as well because he is clumsy at times.
Bunch of teenage kids who started watching around 2009 earliest and think Barca must forever play like prime Xavi, Iniesta, Alves days.
Worst fanbase in the world bar none. There is no support for anyone whatsoever. Even booed one of their own legends, Luis Enrique, who won them the treble and double because of 1 average season. Imagine calling Ole names after he wins treble and double but then wins only the Cup in his third season.
