And that's that! Barcelona win regain La Liga. Who would have predicted this back in August?
La Liga 2017/18
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Don't suffer it's only footballScoring hat-tricks against relegated sides?
Very worthy champions as always. They've been the best team in La Liga by a mile this season
It was supposed to be a transitional season. New manager not proven at the absolute top level, lost our second best player, struggled to get players signed, and when we finally signed someone it was a guy from China. Now here we are, ANOTHER league and cup double, the third in 4 seasons.
I don't, it's hilarious seeing Messi fans claim a hat-trick against a relegated side makes him GOAT.
Anyway, congrats to the Barca fans amongst the Messi brigade on another double.
And that's that! Barcelona win regain La Liga. Who would have predicted this back in August?
Madrid were overwhelming favourites at the start of the season. How the hell Messi managed to drag this Barcelona team to the title, I'll never know.
Deserved for Barca and Messi. They dug in and showed a lot of character in the tough games. The Clasico in December was stunning. The comebacks from 2-0 against Socidad and from from 2-0 in the last 6 minutes against Sevilla were indicative of the drive of these players. In the big moments, they stood up.
Congrats to Barcelona. Congratulations to Messi. Incredible accomplishment.
Madrid were overwhelming favourites at the start of the season. How the hell Messi managed to drag this Barcelona team to the title, I'll never know.
Deserved for Barca and Messi. They dug in and showed a lot of character in the tough games. The Clasico in December was stunning. The comebacks from 2-0 against Socidad and from from 2-0 in the last 6 minutes against Sevilla were indicative of the drive of these players. In the big moments, they stood up.
Congrats to Barcelona. Congratulations to Messi. Incredible accomplishment.
I was just saying that not a lot of people have you a shot of winning the title before the season. I have no clue how you did the double. In a lot of big games, you were second best, but there was more grit to this team than there's been in a while for Barca.
How does it feel? How does it compare with past years?
They've won 7 out of the last 10 titles (since saint Pep became their manager), and now they are 'only' 8 titles below Real Madrid. If they somehow manage to get parity with Madrid, it would be one of the biggest achievement in the history of football.
Of course, it had to be the goat to win the title for Barca! Well-deserved for going 35 games unbeaten!
Feels very good.
Last season was honestly the first time I've felt that Madrid had truly passed us since 2008. (the first genuinely impressive season Madrid have had for decades, frankly) And losing Neymar, who was effectively going to take Messi's crown, was a double blow. But we kept grinding out wins whilst the Madrid clubs kept dropping stupid points left right and centre.
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This almost feels like Ronaldinho's first season, in summer we were down in the mud, now we have a double and guys for the future like Coutinho or Dembele.
It's days like this, with people saying "yeah but the Champions", "what if Madrid win another UCL" that you can separate true, long time Barça supporters that went through dry spells and being awful, from plastic bandwagoners.
It's days like this, with people saying "yeah but the Champions", "what if Madrid win another UCL" that you can separate true, long time Barça supporters that went through dry spells and being awful, from plastic bandwagoners.
Congrats culés, well deserved doblete. The next year, tired of winning the Champions we will return
Real get more praise for their 3 CL wins in 4 years than Barca winning La Liga 7 times in the last 10 years.
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
In the past 10 seasons, Barca have won 7 Ligas, 6 Copas, and 3 CLs, not to mention 5 Spanish Super Cups, 3 European Super Cups, and 3 Club World Cups. In the same time, Madrid have won 2 Ligas, 2 Copas, and 3 CLs, with 3 Spanish Super Cups, 3 European Super Cups, and 3 Club World Cups.
My thoughts are that this speaks for itself.
No El Clasico guard of honour next week?
Good post. In a month you'll still be willing to sell your sister to trade trophies with us though
Well duh.
When Madrid won the club world cup, Barcelona did not make el pasillo(the guard of honour) because, according to them, it was only done if the club participated in the same competition, that is, liga, copa or champions.
After that, some weeks ago Zidane said that it would not be done, by his personal decision, suggesting that since Barcelona hadn´t done it, the sense of the tribute had been distorted
I guess that the rule of not doing for not participating in the same competition is an invention of Bartomeu, since Barcelona did it in the past (with Sevilla after winning Uefa in 2006.)
Personally I think they should do it
As much as Bartomeu is saying things to benefit his club he has a point. Has a pasillo traditionally been performed for a CWC? Never seen it. I mean you won't see a team be given one for winning the Copa del Rey so why for the CWC which nobody else participates in? Very poor from Zidane and reeks of insecurity.
The guard of honour was traditionally done for the league champion. I thought it was a tad churlish at best from Zidane to make an issue out of this non-event. I don't remember anyone anywhere making an issue of this before the Clasico, he only brought it up afterwards. The only time it was differently done was in 2006 when Sevilla won their first UEFA cup, and we and they did one for each other as a token of mutual respect. But the UEFA cup is a real tournament, the Cup World Cup is a supercup, after all.
It's not a huge issue. The trophy coming home is reward enough.
It's not a huge issue. The trophy coming home is reward enough.
the club world championship is a minor competition, and the press was the first to promote the pasillo, but the players are not stupid, they do not want to humiliate themselves and Bartomeu's explanations sounded like an excuse, besides Valverde(at Villarreal) also did a pasillo to Barcelona after winning the club world championship
Zidane should not have done it, it should have been Butragueño, but he does not get involved in those matters or say a word out of place.
Manchester United have won the most PL titles in the past 10 years yet they hardly get any credit.
That's why. Time frame matters. The past 15 CL titles have been won by 9 different clubs. That's the same amount of clubs as have won the Spanish league in it's entire history. Barcelona have only 4 less total than the other teams combined not called Real Madrid. The competition is just different.
Also people care more about the CL. If you follow Bayern you care about the champions league but you don't care about La Liga. If you follow United you care about the CL but you don't care about La Liga. Naturally more is going to be made out of the CL, especially when you set records.
Why isnt there more of a narrative on the fact they have almost completed an invincible season? When Conte did for Juve, he was praised as the best manager in the world.
Maybe because of the upcoming el clasico?
Unreal achievement if it happens
Maybe because of the upcoming el clasico?
Unreal achievement if it happens
In England there are more competitors for the league title, but La Liga is more difficult to win, as Barca and Real have both been a class above in recent times, and are the most difficult opposition imaginable to each other. To win this many titles is a huge accomplishment and tells about the level of quality more than cup titles.
Montella has been fired from Sevilla I see. A win at Old Trafford was their last win this season, quite remarkable how crap they have been for the last three months.
By who?
people barely cared about it, it's the fact they won the league that mattered. It's the 102 points season that was seen as incredible.What was depressing watching the Barca - Depor match was how good the football Depor played at times despite them being relegated yet we play utter shite. The last couple of games have been an improvement but we really should be doing better.
I wouldn't say the league is more difficult to win when you have basically one competitor and have structured the league in such a way that each year the gulf between you and the rest gets bigger and it's just very recently that the financial gain from the league itself was lessened it's still huge though.
Atlético's league win isn't far off Leicester's title.
It is more difficult to win, because one superb team is a more difficult competition than 4-5 very good ones. Real have won few domestic titles recently, but if they played in England, they would have easily won more.
I don't think so at all. For example Real weren't in contention even this season because of how they slipped up. In England no other team was in contention because 4 other teams slipped up. It's also a lot harder to make it into top 4 in England and it's also harder for teams there to break into Europa League. Top 6 has barely been interchanged at all. In La Liga there's a lot of competition for EL spots because the league isn't as top heavy. It's not uncommon there for a team to make it into the CL and then not qualify again for 5 years.
This season Real did slip up, but most times they give Barcelona run for their money, and occasionally get the better of them. English teams could hardly compete with that. You can twist around your argument as much as you like, but it's simple as that.
How am I twisting my argument? You're just making claims, stating them as simple facts when they are not.
Betis have officially qualified to the Europa League. Deserved after a fantastic season!
Well, we're obviously both making claims. I just find your claim that it's easier for Barcelona or Real to win the league against each other than it would be for either of them against English teams, to be completely unfounded and misguided. Because I assumed it's obvious to everyone that they've generally been class above for some time.
There's less competition for them, therefor it's easier. When you compete with one team instead of 4 there are less things that need that need to happen in your favor in order for you to win.
I also didn't claim that it was harder to win the PL. I said it was harder to make the top 4 because of the competition but I didn't claim that winning it was harder. I just didn't agree with you on La Liga being harder.
But my point was that these top English teams most of the times wouldn't even be a legitimate competition for Real and Barca. In my opinion, this City side is the only one that could genuinely challenge them. Other top English sides have been perhaps at the level of Simeone's Atletico - very good, sometimes great, but in the end just not good enough to consistently challenge the big two (Barca especially) in the league.
Pointless comparison. Barca and Real had a duopoly on the TV money for years in England which gave them an easier chance for more TV money in Europe. There are no sugar daddy clubs to compete with either so no clubs have had a chance to catch up with them. They've been picking and choosing the best 12-13 year olds in the country for years, something that's not been possible in England.
Celtic and Rangers they win a shit load of titles
That's true when they face Spanish teams so what's the excuse for the English, Italian and French teams when the last 4 years Barcelona and Real won the CL?
That's the same excuse we use with Bayern but I believe a team is better in a competitive league and United lost against Sevilha for example, so they aren't that bad.