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SfcNervion said:
Imagine if Benzema had half of the intensity that Morata has. If pigs could fly:lol:
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I don't think Morata is that intense but of course compared to Benzema he looks like the Makelele of strikers. :lol:

Also pretty good stuff I'm reading here from all the haters getting so worked up over yet again another victory. Wish I was on this forum when we won the last two UCL I'm sure many on here had a breakdown. :lol:
 
Revan said:
Don't remember 92, and for the life of me couldn't ever understand if Eto'o was offside or not (so who cares if it was that close), but can you say with a straight face that the refs didn't give you the matches against Chelsea and Arsenal? Pepe should get a mandatory red card each match, to be fair. Even if it wasn't a red, it was the right decision.
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I can say with a straight face that Chelsea got robbed of probably 3 pens that day, then we could also talk about the first leg, Abidal being sent off for nothing...

It's all a matter of perspective, but most of the time when we get some kind of advantage from the ref in a game we usually get screwed in other ways the same day. The thing is what happened at Stamford Bridge was one of the worst ref jobs I can remember yet only the decissions that went our way are remembered.

Like with Motta, no one remembers the first leg or Bojan's goal, or just last year when Torres was sent off against Atletico in the UCL it was a drama for days, yet the debate about Gabi's handball in the last minute of the match was like "whatever, suck it"
 
Revan said:
Like conceding a goal from the offside position when Barca needed to score, playing without a man for 60 minutes, Maicon getting his teeth broken from Messi and Milito getting stopped for an offside (which wasn't even close) in an 1 to 1 position. Yes, Inter scored from an offside position and Bojan goal was legit, but Inter had more decisions against them in those two matches. Yet Barca crybabies act like they were the victims.
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Lets not forget the record breaking amount of penalties they got last year; more than half of those decisions were utterly dodgy. This is typical some cules (not all, but some), they got the nerve to play the victim card.
 
Pique's goal was correct, and 9 in 10 people who really know footbal would tell you that if you're talking about milimetres, you let the attack go on.
Ishdalar said:
I can say with a straight face that Chelsea got robbed of probably 3 pens that day, then we could also talk about the first leg, Abidal being sent off for nothing...

It's all a matter of perspective, but most of the time when we get some kind of advantage from the ref in a game we usually get screwed in other ways the same day. The thing is what happened at Stamford Bridge was one of the worst ref jobs I can remember yet only the decissions that went our way are remembered.

Like with Motta, no one remembers the first leg or Bojan's goal, or just last year when Torres was sent off against Atletico in the UCL it was a drama for days, yet the debate about Gabi's handball in the last minute of the match was like "whatever, suck it"
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It's understandable for success to draw envy and unfair behaviour, but to a point.
 
Acheron said:
I don't think Morata is that intense but of course compared to Benzema he looks like the Makelele of strikers. :lol:

Also pretty good stuff I'm reading here from all the haters getting so worked up over yet again another victory. Wish I was on this forum when we won the last two UCL I'm sure many on here had a breakdown. :lol:
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Bob Loblaw had a breakdown but he's banned now. I think people generally side with the underdogs in these situations.
 
Acheron said:
I don't think Morata is that intense but of course compared to Benzema he looks like the Makelele of strikers. :lol:

Also pretty good stuff I'm reading here from all the haters getting so worked up over yet again another victory. Wish I was on this forum when we won the last two UCL I'm sure many on here had a breakdown. :lol:
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You should have been here when Cnuty Cackir wrongfully gave Nani a red card against you in the CL tie, you'd probably be traumatized :lol:

Scandalous decision btw, and I would love nothing more than Cackir being caught in eternal hell where he was forced to watch re-runs of Supergirl while repeatedly stepping on legos.
 
Vato said:
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Sssssst.. no need to ruslte your jimmies.
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Congratulations! You have finally managed to win the league after years ;)
 
Lay said:
Was about to say it was Eto'o keeping Pique onside. Never knew it was Muntari :lol:
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Eto'o held the line beautifully all game, he brought on a player who should actually know how to defend and that happened. Matter of centimetres.
Still, I've never been happier with a final whistle for any non-United game as much as that day.
 
berbatrick said:
I saw and loved those matches, I don't remember an offside Barca goal. They scored from a cutback away and Pique was level (Muntari) at home.
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Pique was marginally offside. A hard call, but because it was in Barca favor it doesn't count. I also cannot understand how Barca fans argued that Sneijder made a pen in Alves.

And hilariously, the one offside goal and one pen apparently has become two offside goals and two pens :lol:
Ishdalar said:
I can say with a straight face that Chelsea got robbed of probably 3 pens that day, then we could also talk about the first leg, Abidal being sent off for nothing...

It's all a matter of perspective, but most of the time when we get some kind of advantage from the ref in a game we usually get screwed in other ways the same day. The thing is what happened at Stamford Bridge was one of the worst ref jobs I can remember yet only the decissions that went our way are remembered.

Like with Motta, no one remembers the first leg or Bojan's goal, or just last year when Torres was sent off against Atletico in the UCL it was a drama for days, yet the debate about Gabi's handball in the last minute of the match was like "whatever, suck it"
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What does it matter if Abidal was sent off or not when the result would have been 3/4-0 at that stage if the ref did his job. Fair enough for the pen in the first leg though, but still the second match must be the worst refereeing performance ever in UCL.

The fact that Barca was helped in many other matches in the next 2-3 seasons is also valid. Sure they had some calls against them (like Milito/Bojan goals) but even on that tie they had more calls in their favor.
SfcNervion said:
Lets not forget the record breaking amount of penalties they got last year; more than half of those decisions were utterly dodgy. This is typical some cules (not all, but some), they got the nerve to play the victim card.
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Indeed. I despise Real, but cannot stand for the life of me how Barca plays the victim card when they get as many ridiculous decisions in their favor, and for a few years in UCL you couldn't get near a Barca player without getting sent off.
 
carvajal said:
I didn't watch the penalty,was a hand? I have a question about that.What says the regulation? Does It have to be voluntarily to be penalty?Or simply a touch with the hand is enough?
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The rules says that intention matters. However much is left to referee's discretion. Going by strict rules it was not a penalty. It was instinctive and did not look deliberate. Going by common sense it still should not have been a penalty. It was not in a dangerous situation that it could have hindered a possibility of a goal or a chance. If anything the trajectory of the ball was going outside of the box before it struck the arm.
 
PedroMendez said:
@carvajal
congrats, I would have preferred that you loose (so Sevilla stays in the title race), but the result is okay. I think the pen is more or less 50/50. I could argue for both sides; the rules are very dodgy and ambiguous. In the end his hand was in a very strange position. It is not the most aesthetically pleasing side, but you are really hard to kill.
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Thanks Pedro.I was asking and some people say that has to be voluntary and others that the rule has changed. To be honest I think that the one against Barça could have been perfectly a penalty so this should be too.
Anyway Madrid have to change something. The team lacks intensity in some moments and some players are not playing too well.
Zidane has to react before. I think that Kovacic, Isco, James or Morata deserve more minutes and to change Isco when you are losing 2-0 is excess of loyalty to some players ,or conservatism.
Thanks @prarek , so maybe we have got a very big favor for la liga. It will be the debate during all the week. Let´s see what Piqué writes in Twitter :D
 
Revan said:
Pique was marginally offside. A hard call, but because it was in Barca favor it doesn't count. I also cannot understand how Barca fans argued that Sneijder made a pen in Alves.

And hilariously, the one offside goal and one pen apparently has become two offside goals and two pens :lol:
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It isn't a favour worth mentioning as it was such a tight call. I still don't think it was offside. Lucio ripped Zlatan's shirt at a corner of freekick and hurled him to the ground in one of the games too :lol:
 

I knew it!, talking about points that have lost. Although he chooses the part that fit better his usual speech.
 
SfcNervion said:
Lets not forget the record breaking amount of penalties they got last year; more than half of those decisions were utterly dodgy. This is typical some cules (not all, but some), they got the nerve to play the victim card.
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Yeah, one of the most attacking teams modern footbal has seen, the one that for the last decade played in the rival area more than any other team in the world broke the record of PK given to them just last season, outrageous.

Meanwhile Real are still the team with most Penalties given in UCL and La Liga, but that's ok. We might complain but a Sevilla fan coming to "aid" arguments against Real Madrid doesn't seem logical to me, we're obviusly treated way better than you, but if we're George W Bush on a good day Real Madrid are Donald Trump on a killing frenzy
 
Ishdalar said:
I can say with a straight face that Chelsea got robbed of probably 3 pens that day, then we could also talk about the first leg, Abidal being sent off for nothing...

It's all a matter of perspective, but most of the time when we get some kind of advantage from the ref in a game we usually get screwed in other ways the same day. The thing is what happened at Stamford Bridge was one of the worst ref jobs I can remember yet only the decissions that went our way are remembered.

Like with Motta, no one remembers the first leg or Bojan's goal, or just last year when Torres was sent off against Atletico in the UCL it was a drama for days, yet the debate about Gabi's handball in the last minute of the match was like "whatever, suck it"
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The Hypocrisy! You realize that Iniesta (who made the cross) shouldn't have even been in the pitch considering that he had just decided to become a goalkeeper as the last man just a few minutes before?! But of course, when Barca plays in UCL, only players of the other team can be sent off.
 
My word that Madrid penalty :lol: I'd be shocked if it wasn't for the fact that it's Madrid who got it.
 
carvajal said:
Thanks @prarek , so maybe we have got a very big favor for la liga. It will be the debate during all the week. Let´s see what Piqué writes in Twitter :D
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Tbf both Madrid and Barca get their fair share of calls and favoritism. Or maybe it just seems like that because all the focus is on them. I'm not sure really. But congrtats on the 3 mate.
carvajal said:

I knew it!, talking about points that have lost. Although he chooses the part that fit better his usual speech.
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Didn't take long. :lol:
 

Escribá confirms the injury. Poor guy. He was a candidate to win the Zamora but for what I heard he needs to play 28 games
 
Revan said:
Pique was marginally offside. A hard call, but because it was in Barca favor it doesn't count. I also cannot understand how Barca fans argued that Sneijder made a pen in Alves.

And hilariously, the one offside goal and one pen apparently has become two offside goals and two pens :lol:
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1 offside goal (Milito, 3-1), 1 disallowed goal (Bojan, 1-0), and 2 stonewall pens: both on Alves, 1 in each leg. 4:48 here and 4:22 here. All within 1 tie.
Anyway, this is going nowhere.
 
wr8_utd said:
My word that Madrid penalty :lol: I'd be shocked if it wasn't for the fact that it's Madrid who got it.
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How is it not a penalty, why would your arm be up there, it is not a natural position, every footballer worth their salt knows not to do this.

Clear pen.
 
There's no intention, the ball is going absolutely no where. Lets put it this way, if that were Ramos who handled it, you think Villareal get a penalty? No chance.
 
It was a clear pen for Real and there was no foul before the Morata goal either.

They're a bunch of cnuts, but they won fairly today.
 
Redondo_Pirri said:
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How is it not a penalty, why would your arm be up there, it is not a natural position, every footballer worth their salt knows not to do this.

Clear pen.
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Because it bounces up to his face from a foot away. That's him trying to turn his arm and body away from the ball.
 
Peyroteo said:
It was a clear pen for Real and there was no foul before the Morata goal either.

They're a bunch of cnuts, but they won fairly today.
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If that's a clear penalty, I'm looking forward to seeing 3-4 penalties a game now onwards.
 
berbatrick said:
1 offside goal (Milito, 3-1), 1 disallowed goal (Bojan, 1-0), and 2 stonewall pens: both on Alves, 1 in each leg. 4:48 here and 4:22 here. All within 1 tie.
Anyway, this is going nowhere.
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The first pen for Alves can be argued (I don't think it was), but the second would have made Ashley Young proud.

What about Milito's one on one (which wasn't even marginal)? 90% it would have been a goal considering that Milito just didn't miss that season. Look at 0:23

 
That Barca Inter tie was in no way an injustice to either side. They both had a lot of poor decisions go their way over the course of the tie.
 
cyberman said:
Because it bounces up to his face from a foot away. That's him trying to turn his arm and body away from the ball.
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Clearly looks like he tries to stop the ball going past him, that was my first impression as well, again your arm does not need to be up there
 
wr8_utd said:
There's no intention, the ball is going absolutely no where. Lets put it this way, if that were Ramos who handled it, you think Villareal get a penalty? No chance.
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wr8_utd said:
If that's a clear penalty, I'm looking forward to seeing 3-4 penalties a game now onwards.
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The hand is in an unnatural position, therefore it's a penalty. The kick was from far enough that he had time to move the hand out of the way, it's a bit unlucky but it's a penalty. Even if you think it's not a penalty (the rules leave room for interpretation) it's at the very least a very tough call. And there are not 3-4 moments like these per game, so why would there be 3-4 penalties per game?
 
Peyroteo said:
The hand is in an unnatural position, therefore it's a penalty. The kick was from far enough that he had time to move the hand out of the way, it's a bit unlucky but it's a penalty. Even if you think it's not a penalty (the rules leave room for interpretation) it's at the very least a very tough call. And there are not 3-4 moments like these per game, so why would there be 3-4 penalties per game?
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Revan said:
The first pen for Alves can be argued (I don't think it was), but the second would have made Ashley Young proud.

What about Milito's one on one (which wasn't even marginal)? 90% it would have been a goal considering that Milito just didn't miss that season. Look at 0:23

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Not the best video with which to say that because the very next play is Milito missing an open goal, and the previous one is a good FK on the line/penalty shout for Messi :lol:
Yes, I remember the Milito offside (as I said I was against Barca that game), for me it was a 50-50 goal because the ball was going away, but he did have support.

But we cannot agree on the 2 Alves decisions (for me the 1st one is completely unambiguous and 2nd is definitely a foul with Muntari's leg), so this is pointless.
 
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