La Liga - 2014/15

With the team Barca had in recent years I'd like to see how other teams would do in our place.

You should have won at least 1 of the last 3 (this season included) I reckon. Can't blame you for not winning the ones before that though.
 
You should have won at least 1 of the last 3 (this season included) I reckon. Can't blame you for not winning the ones before that though.
I think Madrid looked well on course to win la liga last year if I'm not mistaken? With not long to go I think they looked the team with the best chance, but really lost their way in the end?
 
Worst title loss for Madrid was the year Vilanova was ill. Mourinho was the most expensive coach in the world and he lost the league to a team who went the majority of the season without their first team coach.
 
Ancelotti won't get sacked. We challenged on all fronts, this manager sacking policy has to change sooner or later. I think everyone is still happy with Ancelotti right now.

Who would we even replace him with? Klopp? Give Zidane a shot at the first team? No thanks, I'd rather stick with Carlo
 
With the team Barca had in recent years I'd like to see how other teams would do in our place.
Yeah the first 3 was against the best club side of all time perhaps so thats a fair point. But then again...Atletico also have 1 title in the last 7 years so maybe Real could have done better.

@duffer If they do sack him I wonder who they will replace him with. They've went through most of the good managers now...Klopp? Rafa? Brendan?
 
He isn't. Except for his goal scoring antics, i'd say he is half the 'footballer' Messi is on current level.

Not a chance, but let's not ruin this thread with another Messi/Ronaldo debate, that thread alone is already one of the worst things in the history of the internet.
 
Ancelotti won't get sacked. We challenged on all fronts, this manager sacking policy has to change sooner or later. I think everyone is still happy with Ancelotti right now.

Who would we even replace him with? Klopp? Give Zidane a shot at the first team? No thanks, I'd rather stick with Carlo
I can't quite get over his league record though. I personally thought that Madrid's fluency in midfield was better than barca's all season so again I'm not sure if he's done justice to the football his team were playing. Of course he could win the cl again this year.
 
With the team Barca had in recent years I'd like to see how other teams would do in our place.

I don't think it was a criticism, necessarily. In some ways, given the quality of the Barcelona team, it must be even more frustrating for Real fans that such a good team has been overshadowed.

Much like Ronaldo v Messi on an individual level, a really good Real Madrid team, which won La Decima, probably won't be remembered as greatly due to the brilliance of their rival. Before the winter break this season, I thought Real had the league all but won, they were playing so well. It's unfortunate that they've allowed Barcelona back into it really.
 
Last season all over again. Even the same scoreline. Real did well coming back, but overall, the league title is pretty much gone. Let's see how well they do in CL this time.
 
I think Madrid looked well on course to win la liga last year if I'm not mistaken? With not long to go I think they looked the team with the best chance, but really lost their way in the end?

I think all 3 of the top 3 looked like they had it in their hands at one stage or another, but yeah Madrid fell apart at the end.
 
Negredo seems out of touch since a long time, isn't he? Don't he will get many more chances in this team.
 
I can't quite get over his league record though. I personally thought that Madrid's fluency in midfield was better than barca's all season so again I'm not sure if he's done justice to the football his team were playing. Of course he could win the cl again this year.
Excluding PSG I think his record is 2 league titles in 16 years at top clubs (Juve, Milan, Chelsea, Madrid) which is terrible. More of a cup specialist.
 
Negredo seems out of touch since a long time, isn't he? Don't he will get many more chances in this team.
Have Valencia already paid Man City £20m for this guy? Very annoying in that case
 
And Juve rested their entire staring XI for their match today, even Buffon while Real were slogging it out today. Doubt Carlo will be sacked though, it will be mental even by Real's standard
 
And Juve rested their entire staring XI for their match today, even Buffon while Real were slogging it out today. Doubt Carlo will be sacked though, it will be mental even by Real's standard

He's done a pretty shit job this season to be honest. Not sack worthy but he's the main reason they've lost the league.
 
He's done a pretty shit job this season to be honest. Not sack worthy but he's the main reason they've lost the league.

Post Winter break yes but they won every single game from Sep 16th to the end of the year across all competitions. Record breaking form.

Easily forgotten in Madrid I know but still.
 
He's done a pretty shit job this season to be honest. Not sack worthy but he's the main reason they've lost the league.

How? Sometimes you have to admit that the other team is just better than you. Barcelona are heads and shoulders everyone else this year, and this includes Bayern
 
How? Sometimes you have to admit that the other team is just better than you. Barcelona are heads and shoulders everyone else this year, and this includes Bayern

Not entirely true. Some aspects are indeed but dropped points to Villarreal, Bilbao and Valencia twice are preventable by Madrid's high standards for this calendar year. They also started the season slowly. Think @Bob Loblaw has a valid point if he's referencing those matches over Atleti (copa del rey and liga) and potentially Juve games.
 
Very similar pattern to last year. Slow start, then Madrid steadily building a solid run, before fading again.

Is it an Ancelotti thing? Something about rotation and motivation, that means he heads into the run-in with tired/injured players? Or just bad luck, in particular the bad luck to lose Modric? Of course, it shouldn't matter, not with the money Madrid have, but in reality it does matter because they still only have 20 outfield players in the squad and Barcelona have every bit as much money, and every bit as strong a squad as them.

Could someone have done better? I doubt it. Ancelotti's calm, he doesn't wilt under the media pressure, he doesn't cause Perez trouble. Will he be there next year? He ought to be, he's the best/safest manager they can get, but who knows.
 
Very similar pattern to last year. Slow start, then Madrid steadily building a solid run, before fading again.

Is it an Ancelotti thing? Something about rotation and motivation, that means he heads into the run-in with tired/injured players? Or just bad luck, in particular the bad luck to lose Modric? Of course, it shouldn't matter, not with the money Madrid have, but in reality it does matter because they still only have 20 outfield players in the squad and Barcelona have every bit as much money, and every bit as strong a squad as them.

Could someone have done better? I doubt it. Ancelotti's calm, he doesn't wilt under the media pressure, he doesn't cause Perez trouble. Will he be there next year? He ought to be, he's the best/safest manager they can get, but who knows.
I don't think they should let him go. But I'm not sure it's not an ancelotti thing either. Both years his team's looked great and favourites but just seem to let go things. His past backs it up as well. He just seems to be a lot better at cup ties than title races.
 
Negredo seems out of touch since a long time, isn't he? Don't he will get many more chances in this team.

Have Valencia already paid Man City £20m for this guy? Very annoying in that case

The initial loan deal as stated on the Valencia site said that Valencia have an obligation to buy at the end of the season. You can only hope that there's a get out clause or at least a price reduction in the terms.
 
I don't think they should let him go. But I'm not sure it's not an ancelotti thing either. Both years his team's looked great and favourites but just seem to let go things. His past backs it up as well. He just seems to be a lot better at cup ties than title races.

Well, yes, even his autobiography's called, Preferisco la Coppa (I Prefer the Cup) :smirk:
 
How? Sometimes you have to admit that the other team is just better than you. Barcelona are heads and shoulders everyone else this year, and this includes Bayern

Not entirely true. Some aspects are indeed but dropped points to Villarreal, Bilbao and Valencia twice are preventable by Madrid's high standards for this calendar year. They also started the season slowly. Think @Bob Loblaw has a valid point if he's referencing those matches over Atleti (copa del rey and liga) and potentially Juve games.

My main criticism of Ancelotti is his lack of rotation this season. They had a fantastic start to the season, as you said, and he deserves praise for that. But at what cost? Look at how he ran his players into the ground, how they started to pick up muscle injuries because the same players were picked game in, game out. How he refused to drop players clearly out of form and how he threw Modrić back in far too soon, pretty much ending his season.

His cup form has been good over the 2 seasons, but I'm unconvinced about his league performance, and again I think his poor rotation is to blame.
 
The difference is that Real Madrid have been flat track bullies this season. Their performances in the big games against the top 4 has ultimately cost them the title.

La Liga top 4 Head-to-Head league


1. Barcelona - 15 points
2. Atletico Madrid - 9 points
3. Valencia - 7 points
4. Real Madrid - 4 points

I thought Bale did well today but this season playing both Bale and Ronaldo in the big games has been like playing with 9 men. Its fine against smaller teams but in the big games it has back fired time and again.
 
Ancelotti's teams have always lacked consistency, league form is all down to consistency and the fact he has only won 3 league titles in 20 years of management is a terrible record to have considering the teams he has managed.

He even failed to win a league title at Juventus which is almost an impossible feat for any manager. He is just a very good knockout competition manager but is mediocre in the league.