Kylian Mbappe signs new contract at PSG until 2025 | LaLiga will file a complaint

Kelly15 said:
Isn't LA Liga a 2 team league? Dwarfing all the rest of the teams in terms of budget?
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Atletico Madrid have won 2 of the last 10 league titles and have finished 2nd, ahead of Real Madrid, twice in that same period. So strictly speaking it is not a two-team league. Then of course Atletico and other teams have performed well in Europe (CL finals, many EL titles won).

The issue here is simple, it's one that everyone understood ten years ago or w/e when PSG was bought. It is very different to buy a club in a top league with huge teams, and to buy a club in a smaller league with no top teams. A team cannot carry a league, and certainly not a player within that team.

The PL is the most successful league in the world right now and when people discuss why it became popular, I have never heard anyone say "it's because great British players stayed in the PL and this helped its visibility."
 
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Sayros said:
None taken, all I care about is winning the CL and same for Mbappe, Ligue 1 has become irrelevant anyways because any team that does win Ligue 1 outside of PSG get gutted within the next season by clubs outside of the league, there is absolutely no chance for an outside challenger to mount a consistent challenge. However, I don't overrated those other leagues as much as some do. I think the PL is the best because it has two top teams as opposed to the other leagues and yet City is very likely to win 4 of the last 5, but it's as much flat-track bullying for Mbappe to play with Liverpool/Man City as it is with Madrid/Barcelona in La Liga, once you get outside the top 2-3, the drop off in quality is just as bad that players like Mbappe would feast on, it's not proving anything at all.

At least he's staying in France instead of simply strengthening those other leagues like all other great French players have done in the past. It will make the keyboard warriors upset and they'll act as if he's irrelevant only to cream themselves and call him the best player in the world whenever he does something half decent in the CL, nobody's opinion matters, only the end result but it's nice as a former Parisian to see one of our own stick around for a few more years. He'll be 26 and at the prime of his career to explore other leagues, but if he manages a CL with PSG, there's nothing he can do anywhere else that will beat the love and admiration he will forever get in Paris.

There's nothing easy about being in PSG. You win the league, you were supposed to, you lose it then it's an embarrassment, and success is only defined by winning a title that's extremely difficult to win. I honestly would hate to be a player dealing with these sorts of expectations, but the money sure helps, and if you manage to deliver the ultimate goal then you're a god and never have to pay a meal at a delicious Parisian restaurant for the rest of your life.
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Maybe the PSG owners can buy a second club (indirectly of course :p) and fund it just enough so that it provides decent competition in the league and makes Ligue 1 more relevant. A team that could be a Dortmund to your Bayern.
 
Iker Quesadillas said:
Atletico Madrid have won 2 of the last 10 league titles and have finished 2nd, ahead of Real Madrid, twice in that same period. So strictly speaking it is not a two-team league. Then of course Atletico and other teams have performed well in Europe (CL finals, many EL titles won).
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2 of the last 10 league titles is not a lot.
 
90 + 5min said:
I think you missunderstand me. From football point of view I think he made misstake because he will play in league where you basicly have won every season unless something unpredicted happens. There is nothing in it for Mbappe except tons of money and to try winning Champions League. Will that make him one of the greats by playing in that league? Of course not. He has potential to be that but he needs to prove that on higher level. Not against Metz or Bordeaux.
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So players shouldn't join Bayern Munich? Ligue 1 has more different winners in the last decade than Serie A, Bundesliga or La Liga and almost all leagues have been dominated by one team.

And what makes him one of the greats should be his performances, Mbappé is 23 years old and has currently scored 38 goals in the CL, baring injuries he is aiming for at least the third place behind Messi and Ronaldo.
 
Mbappé's mother bashing Fred Hermel (pro Real french journalist) in real time, denying any agreement with Real Madrid :

 
cyberman said:
I called this with both Haaland and Mbappe. You will not see either in La Liga, that balance of power they had is now gone. Magically you will now see the BRAND NEW MESSI V RONALDO RIVALRY doe a death now. Coincidence im sure
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There would not have been a similar rivalry anyway unless they both went to the same league. Haaland at City and Mbappe at Madrid is not close enough.
 
90 + 5min said:
For me, league is always number one. Even if I played in farmers league at some other continent league is always number one. Something you should have in bag. Every season unless something strange or unpredicted happens. To win Champions League is different matter and you have tried but didn't have luck or couldn't take next step. Maybe he wants to win it for Paris. Maybe that is the only reason he stayed. That would be nice but with the money involved I think that decided because he could have the same chance with other clubs in bigger leagues. If not bigger chance. I still think he made misstake from football point of view. I see it as if Ronaldo, instead of playing in England and Spain stayed and played for Sporting Lissabon until he was 26. If he hade same development as he did now.

That bold text is spot on.
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I think there's no doubt that it's the main reason to stay, along with the fact that he's the hometown hero, and is within reach of Cavani's all-time goalscoring record which he could break by next season. The money would be astronomical anywhere he went as a free-agent, and he just doesn't strike me as someone who really cares about the money anyways, the guy has a pretty simple life and doesn't party much, he's a football nerd.

As far as bolded, that's not really a valid comparison given that Sporting couldn't afford to bring in the kind of talent that PSG can, or that CR7 isn't from Lisbon.

Adisa said:
The main reason is the other clubs don't have the financial capacity to keep their best players.
It's a different debate but I think a league needs to have a couple of clubs with equal financial capacity. I don't think it does PSG any favours if the league is irrelevant to them.
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Oh, I completely agree, I would love nothing more than some other billionaire to go out and buy Marseille or St. Etienne, and have an actual competitor in the league, it would do PSG a world of good, but at least PSG doesn't win the league ten times in a row like Bayern just did, they do have slip-ups, although it says more about them than the league IMO. For all the negative talk surrounding Newcastle, it's one of the best thing that's going to happen to the PL which is already in its golden era, but I do agree that it's sad that now it's a competition of who has the most billions to burn, but that's just how anything that generates money will go over time.
 
If he does another 3 years in France his star will have faded by the time he wants his big move. Huge mistake to stay, for his legacy if not his bank balance.
 
Andrade said:
2 of the last 10 league titles is not a lot.
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Of course it is. If you had three more or less equal teams, in ten years two would win three and one would win four. Instead, Barcelona have won five, Real Madrid three and Atletico two.
 
Oly Francis said:
He will not spend his whole carreer in France, even if he leaves in 2025 he'll be 26, he'll have plenty of times to make a mark in an "historic" club. He could have 1 more world cup or a CL title in the bag by then (or maybe nothing).

People tend to forget how young he still is.

Also, a lot of people say that he'll never be rated if the keeps playing in ligue 1 and yet, the whole football world revolved around his transfer for the past couple of days. I'd say he's already rated pretty well.
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Could be like that. But there is also the idea that age is not as important as “years in elite football”. Add to that, players with speed as an important feature often get in to injure age early.
Kelly15 said:
Isn't LA Liga a 2 team league? Dwarfing all the rest of the teams in terms of budget?
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It’s a bit of a myth.
Atletico Madrid’s budget is not that small. They payed more for Felix than any PL team had ever payed for a transfer.
 
Oly Francis said:
He will not spend his whole carreer in France, even if he leaves in 2025 he'll be 26, he'll have plenty of times to make a mark in an "historic" club. People tend to forget how young he still is.
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That's not actually that young. He'd be 26.5 if he leaves PSG in '25. That's on the higher end for big players/transfers.

For instance, De Bruyne was 24 when he moved to City. Cristiano Ronaldo, Bale were both 24 when they moved to RM. Neymar was 25 when he moved to PSG. Hazard was 21 when he moved to Chelsea. Griezmann was 23 when he moved to Atletico. Pogba was 23 when he moved to United. Ribery was 24 when he moved to Bayern. Most of these players are closer to Mbappe's current age than his age in 2025.
 
JPRouve said:
So players shouldn't join Bayern Munich? Ligue 1 has more different winners in the last decade than Serie A, Bundesliga or La Liga and almost all leagues have been dominated by one team.

And what makes him one of the greats should be his performances, Mbappé is 23 years old and has currently scored 38 goals in the CL, baring injuries he is aiming for at least the third place behind Messi and Ronaldo.
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League 1: PSG 8, Monaco 1, Lille 1
Premier League: Man City 4 + (1)?, ManUtd 1, Leicester 1, Liverpool 1, Chelsea 2,
Bundesliga: Bayern Munchen 10,
Serie A: Juventus 8, Inter Milan 1, AC Milan 1 (?)
LaLiga: Barcelona 5, Real Madrid 3, Atl Madrid 2,

So it is only Bundesliga that is worse of top leagues. Serie A is on same level.

I have not said players shouldn't join PSG. I said that if you want to prove yourself to be best you need to play in best leagues. France is not. I don't see how only goalscoring in Champions Legaue is evidence of greatness.
 
Just obscene money and pathetic ambition from Mbappe.
 
Iker Quesadillas said:
Atletico Madrid have won 2 of the last 10 league titles and have finished 2nd, ahead of Real Madrid, twice in that same period. So strictly speaking it is not a two-team league. Then of course Atletico and other teams have performed well in Europe (CL finals, many EL titles won).

The issue here is simple, it's one that everyone understood ten years ago or w/e when PSG was bought. It is very different to buy a club in a top league with huge teams, and to buy a club in a smaller league with no top teams. A team cannot carry a league, and certainly not a player within that team.

The PL is the most successful league in the world right now and when people discuss why it became popular, I have never heard anyone say "it's because great British players stayed in the PL and this helped its visibility."
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The PL is successful by bringing the best foreign talent on top of not having its great players leave for other leagues. PSG can hold on to its players, but unlike Bayern it doesn't weaken its opposition in the league by getting the talented players to come to them, they leave elsewhere.

This will never change without Ligue 1 having another Newcastle-like take over, but why would anyone do so? The TV rights for Ligue 1 aren't even 10% of what PL clubs generate, there's absolutely no incentive right now for anybody to invest in a Ligue 1 team unless it came with pre-approved TV rights that would make it a profitable affair, which would never happen.

And PSG has been great for Ligue 1 in that it's elevated the TV rights that are being renegotiated, and has taken far less than it was owed to have it re-distributed to the other teams in the league. So they're trying to strengthen the league as a whole, but there's no comparison to the English or even Spanish league as far as the revenue, but really England is in a league of its own in that domain and it's only going to affect the other leagues more and more. Spain losing out on Haaland and Mbappe is just a sign that La Liga is not what it once was.
 
Really funny to see Real miss out on Mbappe when the smug feckers thought they would get him for free. Would be fun if PSG got FFP problems cause of Mbappe`s new contract but P$G and $Hitty always gets off with threatening to use their army of lawyers when in trouble.
 
Flexdegea said:
It's way more than Germany and France, it's prob 2 to 3 and 5 (havent checked), they won the last la Liga, it's hardly a 2 horse race
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La Liga has been in existence for just over 90 years and has been won 61 times by Real Madrid or Barcelona. I like La Liga a lot, but those two clubs are dominant and always have been.
 
For a player that relies a lot on pace, aren't we currently seeing his prime? Whoever gives him a humongous contract in 2025 could have a potential Eden Hazard on their hands.
 
They are going to regret giving Mbappe so much power over club affairs me thinks
 
Time for every decent player to run down their contracts then get their "transfer fee" wired to their personal account instead of the old club getting anything. It's fecked.

Unless clubs start tying them down to 10 year contracts.
 
Iker Quesadillas said:
That's not actually that young. He'd be 26.5 if he leaves PSG in '25. That's on the higher end for big players/transfers.

For instance, De Bruyne was 24 when he moved to City. Cristiano Ronaldo, Bale were both 24 when they moved to RM. Neymar was 25 when he moved to PSG. Hazard was 21 when he moved to Chelsea. Griezmann was 23 when he moved to Atletico. Pogba was 23 when he moved to United. Ribery was 24 when he moved to Bayern. Most of these players are closer to Mbappe's current age than his age in 2025.
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He won't be young in 2025 (it's likely he leaves in 2024 if PSG doesn't want to go through this whole circus again) but it'll still be totally fine.

If you take Real Madrid :
Zidane was 29
Hazard was 28
Kaka was 27
Figo was 27
Modric was 26
Courtois was 26
Beckham was 28
Xabi Alonso was 27

In this list, we can say that a couple of them left a pretty decent mark in Real's history.
 
B. Munich said:
A new era in football started this summer 2022. The two most thought after young players both signed for oil clubs instead of the traditional elite teams.
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Agreed. It is getting harder and harder to carr about this sport.
 
One Night Only said:
Time for every decent player to run down their contracts then get their "transfer fee" wired to their personal account instead of the old club getting anything. It's fecked.

Unless clubs start tying them down to 10 year contracts.
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Is it though? Is it better to give the money to the clubs as if players were common goods? Is ii better to see clubs putting pressure on players when they want them to leave? Better to see players skipping practice and go on strikes so they leave when they don't want to fulfill their contract anymore?

Fifa regulations impose a max limit of 5 years for contracts, it's actually unsure if long contracts made in spain would be upheld in case of a legal dispute.
 
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So fecking rich coming from Real Madrid, who fot decades had their debt guarenteed by the crown, effectively ensuring they had a bottomless pit of money and were able to poach the best talen themselves over the 90s and 00s. Glad they're getting a taste of their own medicine. Pathetic cry babies.
 
Rightnr said:
Of course, he would be eating peanuts if he didn't sign that PSG contract.
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It would be crazy to turn down that money. We would all take it over whatever Real Madrid were offering.
 
90 + 5min said:
League 1: PSG 8, Monaco 1, Lille 1
Premier League: Man City 4 + (1)?, ManUtd 1, Leicester 1, Liverpool 1, Chelsea 2,
Bundesliga: Bayern Munchen 10,
Serie A: Juventus 8, Inter Milan 1, AC Milan 1 (?)
LaLiga: Barcelona 5, Real Madrid 3, Atl Madrid 2,

So it is only Bundesliga that is worse of top leagues. Serie A is on same level.

I have not said players shouldn't join PSG. I said that if you want to prove yourself to be best you need to play in best leagues. France is not. I don't see how only goalscoring in Champions Legaue is evidence of greatness.
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Last decade, the champions in 2012 were Montpellier. But even then no league other than the PL has more winners and most league have dominated by one team in similar fashion. You consider that performances in Ligue 1 are meaningless, so I find it interesting to point out that Mbappé is as dominant in the CL which is reflected by his goals and assists at 23 years old.
 
Oly Francis said:
Is it though? Is it better to give the money to the clubs as if players were common goods? Is ii better than seeing clubs putting pressure on players when they want them to leave? Better to see players skipping practice and go on strikes so they leave when they don't want to fulfill their contract anymore?

Fifa regulations impose a max limit of 5 years for contracts, it's actually unsure if long contracts made in spain would be upheld in case of a legal dispute.
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It's pretty much "sure", the Webster ruling makes these contracts extremely weak.
 
Iker Quesadillas said:
Of course it is. If you had three more or less equal teams, in ten years two would win three and one would win four. Instead, Barcelona have won five, Real Madrid three and Atletico two.
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Atletico hadn't won the title for nearly 20 years before the first Simeone inspired victory in 2013-4.
 
Oly Francis said:
He won't be young in 2025 (it's likely he leaves in 2024 if PSG doesn't want to go through this whole circus again) but it'll still be totally fine.

If you take Real Madrid :
Zidane was 29
Hazard was 28
Kaka was 27
Figo was 27
Modric was 26
Courtois was 26
Beckham was 28
Xabi Alonso was 27

In this list, we can say that a couple of them left a pretty decent mark in Real's history.
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The signings of these players were totally different. Personally as a fan I'd rather all of Qatar kicking me in the balls than try again with Mbappe in 2025.
As you say he will still be young enough to try in another league but certainly not as exciting in this era where we go crazy with 18/19 year old players.
 
Gazza said:
3 year deal suggests to me he feels his work is not done and he desperately wants to win the CL for Paris. If Real don’t come back in for him down the line then he can still go to England if he feels like it. There’s plenty of sporting reason for Mbappe to stay where he is, even if the domestic league doesn’t have a huge profile around the world.
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And puts him in a great position renegotiate as the wages keep rising across football
 
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