The key message : just sack PSG.
Kylian Mbappe signs new contract at PSG until 2025 | LaLiga will file a complaint
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The key message : just sack PSG.
Spot on mate,
How ironic...Real Magreed bleating about players going where the money is
It doesn't really inspire confidence that Ligue 1 / PSG fans in this thread will argue that it's great for the league and for the sport that Mbappe chose to stay at PSG while also insisting that of course he'll leave and go to another league later.
Mbappe has sacked leonardo. No big suprise there then.
well, this is laughable.
all this "football adventure" is a washing machine for a dictatorship.
they have even BOUGHT (you might deny this too, ok, they got it for free and because they greeeeat presentation) a World Cup, that will be played in winter.
do you remember what happened with platini, sarkozy and the the emir of qatar just a few months before buying PSG?
they have spent way more than that. they post millionaire losses every year, unless of course, some random qatar state company sponsor them, paying twice or 3 times what a club like real, barça, united, juventus, bayern, etc. would make.
I know it’s funny to laugh at La Liga and they’re probably only doing it because Madrid are angry and upset that they didn’t get their man but don’t we all want leagues/clubs/people in the sport to call out shite like this?
Its always felt a bit distinct and seperate from other stronger leagues. I think Thiago Silva, Veratti and Marquinho's were all amongst the best in the world in their position. No one really cares or remembers them outside of world cups. Their champions league careers were made up of quarter final and round of 16 exits mostly and any conversation about them is about why they underachieved so much. Ibrahimovic's reputation seems to revolve around his sweden career and what he was doing before going to PSG.
I care about the French league when Monaco stumble upon 10 or so of the most talented players in the world for a season and theres someone to compete with PSG. Ideally i'd want half a dozen more teams who have a reasonable chance of beating PSG or the unicorn team before i think its a strong league.
La liga is just a million times closer to filling them checkboxes. Real are probably a tiny bit too strong for Barcelona at the moment but Atletico are good enough to keep them honest. Theres usually a few Sevilla's or Valencia's to give them a decent match even if they still lose too.
This current incarnation of PSG is particularly hard to have any regard for too. It just seems to be drowning in ego and ineptness.
My thoughts have gone from 'i'm looking forward to seeing what he does at Real' to 'guess i can forget about him again till the next world cup ... that isn't in qatar'. Same as Neymar. Messi has basically retired and gone to play in america for a couple of years
Also, power move by mbappe. Have made Neymar and Messi smaller in stature now at psg. Nobody can touch him, he is the top dog and by far and can do whatever he wants.
Every single league is as guilty.
It's incredible that he signed. I mean, he will no doubt leave for free again in a couple years but it really shows that money talks. I can't fault him as I would probably do the same
Madrid though have fecked it. Didn't fight for Halaand cos of Mbappe and ended up with neither
Madrid though have fecked it. Didn't fight for Halaand cos of Mbappe and ended up with neither
Getting ridiculous now. The kid has lost the run of himself.
I didn't say that PSG isn't a sportwashing instrument at the same time and the world cup in Qatar certainly is. Even if it's a bit more complicated than that because Qatar leaders also have an "existence" complex, one of their biggest frustration was the fact that 20 years ago nobody knew they were a real country so they invested in huge events so the world know they exist.
But your rant was totally misplaced because I was replying to the the "BURNING" money part.
And the Qatar companies sponsoring the club were included in my calculation, otherwise the figure would be around 540M€ (+70M in shareholder debt). So it's 610M invested in capital/debt and 1 billion or so in various sponsoring deals.
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the old socialist state owned model for leagues would never have allowed this travesty. Time for a refined model to be adopted across Europe. Get big money and capitalist greed out of the people's game.
Lovely to watch the La Liga/Madrid meltdown
Of course. There is going to be hypocrisy everywhere but it’s good to have people stir up shite like this that are actually in the game as when fans do absolutely nothing happens.
He is going to waste another 3 years of his career isn’t he? But I guess that’s the price he has to pay for being super rich in very short time.
The kind of money he will earn in PSG for next 3 years (300m fee plus 100m salary per year = 600m), should be more than the anything he could earn elsewhere for rest of his career (assume he will earn around 50m per year elsewhere, which is close to 1m per week)
The kind of money he will earn in PSG for next 3 years (300m fee plus 100m salary per year = 600m), should be more than the anything he could earn elsewhere for rest of his career (assume he will earn around 50m per year elsewhere, which is close to 1m per week)
Can we please stop with this 300M+100 per year nonsense? It's obviously false and only came from one irrelevant spanish source and yet, everybody chooses to base their analysis on this insane figure because it fits their narrative so perfectly.
Sky sports report a 100M+48M/year deal but I guess it's far less interesting than believing they're giving him a billion right?
https://www.skysports.com/football/...ees-contract-extension-with-ligue-1-champions
100m + 48m sound more reasonable, and similar to what Real is offering, which begs the question why La Liga would take legal action on FFP rules against PSG.
So far loving the moves Mbappe is making, sacking Leonardo and his buddy Pochettino is a solid start.
Very underrated comment … It’s not just a matter of Papa Flo’s ego, it’s a matter of the club’s prestige. His entourage’s conduct has been arrogant and it reflects poorly on the player. The Madrid door has been shut permanently.
We will probably waste our time on him again in 2-3 years(even though we shouldn't).
Based on the events of the last few months I’m glad we aren’t getting Mbappe. He seems to have an arrogant personality, his entourage may become a problem, his behavior will disrupt a settled dressing room and I’ve never seen him lead a team to win against the run of play. We should go all in for Nkunu and Soler (Rudiger is done). We don’t need to make any stupid desperate moves.
Nkunku seems a very desperate signing, regardless of whether he has had a good season. I understand that now there is an appetite for signings but it seems a bit rash.
Soler is a good midfielder but personally I don't think he's up to the level, what do you like about him in particular, or is it because he's a market opportunity?
In any case I think Barcelona have been after him for a while
Will he be the same player? Look at Dybala - he stagnated by playing in the Italian league for so long that he has gone from future superstar to a Tottenham level player (even accounting for his injuries).
Also - how inflated would his ego get if he has control over PSG’s hiring and firing policies? What would be his expectation at Madrid? We can’t allow another Raul-like situation (latter years) at the club.
The arrogance seems to be more from Real Madrid and their fans, most likely based on what ever story has been spun by Spanish media.
His marketability is going to go off the charts now, PSG despite not really doing anything are already aligned as a sports/fashion brand and will probably place Mbappe at the center of this now.
cant help but feel this is a bad move by Mbappe and France NT. He hasnt improved eversince he joined PSG, IF anything Neymar and Co. have been giving him bad influence and now they'll stay together for longer time will only make things worse. but i guess hes been assured of zidane's arrival next summer.
He is a hardworking attacker who can play all across the front line. At PSG it was common knowledge that he had to do the donkey work (like a Kuyt), because the other attackers refused to. He did that job excellently and earned a move to Leipzig where he got freedom to attack. He has grown over two seasons and would be good bet for the prices quoted (30-40 million). We need to start grooming a replacement for Benzema so not a bad idea.
Soler is a fighter, passes well, tackles hard, looks to shoot when he can and is basically an all action midfielder. Has great energy levels, is a leader and can play in both a 2 and 3 man midfield. His stats indicate that he is on his way up. His contract ends next season and Valencia have been shopping him around. I’d like him to replace Kroos who was average last season, average most of this season and very poor in the last 3 months.
Barca seem to have been approached but surely we have the finances to get this done.
I agree that what Tebas has done sounds stupid and bitter but after the failed Galactico experiment, I’m sure Papa Flo realizes that “marketability” cannot come at the cost of dressing room stability and performance. Look at Madrid this season - we may do a rare (believe it or not) double this season with our most marketable players (Bale, Hazard) contributing nothing. On the other hand Vinicius will now get a higher profile and even Benzema’s profile has reached a whole new level. A Pogba, Neymar or Mbappe personality will upset our stability.
I hadn't really thought about Soler but you seem to like him as I swear you mentioned him in another post. Don't you think that Valverde is that and much more? And he could also maybe be something like Kroos, or at least in the Uruguayan national team he has a more predominant role.
I had thought of a more creative midfielder, but well, we'll have time to speculate in another more appropriate thread. Even here, being few madridistas, we have very varied ideas regarding transfers.
Same with Nkunku, you define him well, but I don't know if he improves on what we have and that price seems too cheap to me.
I was thinking more along the lines of a replacement for Jovic, although it's true that I'm still too shocked by Mbappe to think about signings.
it will be interesting to watch Madrid if they plan to go the ‘team’ route rather than ‘stars’.
la liga, barca and Madrid need marketability though as it will lose it’s prestige quickly outside of Europe.
Regardless it’s an insane amount. He plays football he does not cure cancer mate.
Yeah, but them complaining is just being hypocrites. Nobody complained about how much Madrid and Barcelona were paying Ronaldo and Messi.
Always knew that they’d flex their resources to the max to keep him. It was basically an offer he couldn’t refuse.
Leonardo was getting particularly riled up about it. Just shows that money wins in todays game. We can choose to laugh at Madrid if we want but that’s not really the bigger picture imo.
And to think that Ed Woodward's pitch was for us to become this sporting Disneyland, within which all going to plan from day 1 would have led to us signing the likes of this man.
As it turns out putting our name before Mbappe now probably results in him scoffing and thinking "...that irrelevant club?"
We never bought players of his present ilk/stature anyway. But crazy to think that he probably looks at us the way we consider for example an Everton, Villa, Forest. An ex big club with history in generations gone by.
We've now got a real job on to attract the players of tomorrow let alone today.
ETH et al have a hell of a task ahead.
It can't be stated just how catastrophically those above dropped the ball when it came to the opportunity to capitalise on our at the time juggernaught status during our PL success era. Sheer incompetence. Slept on the job.
I went off on a tangent. Apologies.
As it turns out putting our name before Mbappe now probably results in him scoffing and thinking "...that irrelevant club?"
We never bought players of his present ilk/stature anyway. But crazy to think that he probably looks at us the way we consider for example an Everton, Villa, Forest. An ex big club with history in generations gone by.
We've now got a real job on to attract the players of tomorrow let alone today.
ETH et al have a hell of a task ahead.
It can't be stated just how catastrophically those above dropped the ball when it came to the opportunity to capitalise on our at the time juggernaught status during our PL success era. Sheer incompetence. Slept on the job.
I went off on a tangent. Apologies.
Here's hoping this is not irrational
Grab that popcorn
don't. Ugh.What did they want to pay for Mbappe with 1 year left... circa £200m?
Feck, 100 for Marcus, 100 for Martial y voilah...done. Fin. Give us the dough.
But wait, we'll throw in Lingardinho.
And there's more....a slab for added umph to the deal.
Just let us have Rudiger instead.
What could've been.
Actually, we should complain about them getting Rudiger when we obviously needed him more. Who do I write to...
Not to side with La Liga or RM, but RM is in very good position financially in term of wage Bill, and their net spend over the year. They should afford Mbappe "cleanly" enough.
PSG added an expensive Messi last summer, and renewed Neymar on expensive contract not long ago. It's questionable why PSG can afford to be this financial competitive without new unrelated oil money directly find the way into. FFP is dead and hurried at this point.
Pot calling kettle black nonetheless.