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Did anyone read the full article? It’s even more bizarre.

The dad’s current wife is the one filming from the car and she didn’t believe it to be a real gun, which explains the calmness as she sees her man killed. She believes it was a set up as the mother stood there filming it all after winding him up somewhat.

The step dad is married to someone else who happens to be the judge. :wenger:

Those kids have no chance.
 
The stepdad escalated tension by leaving the scene and returning with a gun, but guess it still goes down as self-defense under the law interpretation - his property and all. All around madness.
 
The okay sign defenders are really missing context. It's like doing a nazi salute with a group of nazi's and claiming nah that's also just the sign for calling for a free kick. Refs do it all the time.

Regarding the other thing, after how many times of asking someone to get of your porch are you allowed to murder him with an assault rifle?
 
ExoduS said:
Well the guy/dad asked for it. I mean he must have been drunk or on cocaine? Who goes into physical altercation against someone with a gun on his own property? Like wtf? In most American states you can shoot someone if you ask them to leave your property and they do not comply, let alone they challenge you physically.

It is such a f**ked situation as the step dad shot real dad because real dad was looking for his son. Everything here is f**ked up but real dad was asking for it.

Also it is amazing that noone screamed after the guy got shot twice? F**king hell I've been in few mild fist fights where women were screaming as if some was getting their throat slashed. They acted as if they were shooting a movie scene or something.
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As a non American I don't think I will ever be able to wrap my mind around this. I get that it's essentially been the law since the country was founded, but that it has maintained popular support since then is just something I cannot fathom.
 
Drainy said:
The point I'm making, since this is the Rittenhouse thread, is that it was argued that Rittenhouse legally provoked the attack by Rosenbaum.

Provocation being an illegal act which is likely to provoke another into an act of aggression

I'd say denying a parent access to their child per a court order could be considered provocation under that provision.

Of course, its probable that since he was at home and trespassing the dad from the property he will get more protections. The dad should have recognised the position and withdrawn to the car and called the police if he was in the right.
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If you think it's provoking and against the law or your rights, call the cops. Or if it's his right for custody just film yourself being barred and milk them dry in court.

Trespassing and assaulting or even trying to hold the landowner gun is stupidity. Let alone when you're already given a warning shot, and clearly in the wrong side of the law
 
KirkDuyt said:
The okay sign defenders are really missing context. It's like doing a nazi salute with a group of nazi's and claiming nah that's also just the sign for calling for a free kick. Refs do it all the time.

Regarding the other thing, after how many times of asking someone to get of your porch are you allowed to murder him with an assault rifle?
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The thing is Rosenbaum past as a pedophile still doesnt make it ok for him to be shot. Just like Rittenhouse affiliation and political view shouldn't have any bearings on him being guilty or not in this specific occasion. Fair goes both ways.

And sure if half the world actually using nazi like salute on daily basis.

I think even whastapp have that a ok thing and it really is just ok although old fashioned ok in indonesia
 
If I had to guess what their names were, it would be Chad and Kyle.
 
Sky1981 said:
The thing is Rosenbaum past as a pedophile still doesnt make it ok for him to be shot. Just like Rittenhouse affiliation and political view shouldn't have any bearings on him being guilty or not in this specific occasion. Fair goes both ways.

And sure if half the world actually using nazi like salute on daily basis.

I think even whastapp have that a ok thing and it really is just ok although old fashioned ok in indonesia
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Not saying it makes him guilty, just saying that he didn't mean it is an ok sign. Obviously there is no way to concretely prove that Sweet Kyle meant to do the white supremacist sign in a group of white supremacists, but actually meant it as the ok sign, because yes, everyone obviously knows it's also an okay sign just as the swastika was originally not a nazi symbol either.

Context.

Kyle is a racist little cnut, which doesn't make him guilty of murder, it just makes him a cnut.

Though by my standards he's also a murderer. Same as marrying a 9 year old in a country where it's legal still makes you a nonce.
 
In any other normal place you would stay in your house and call the police.
 
youngrell said:
Did anyone read the full article? It’s even more bizarre.

The dad’s current wife is the one filming from the car and she didn’t believe it to be a real gun, which explains the calmness as she sees her man killed. She believes it was a set up as the mother stood there filming it all after winding him up somewhat.

The step dad is married to someone else who happens to be the judge. :wenger:

Those kids have no chance.
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It almost looked staged.
 
Cloud7 said:
As a non American I don't think I will ever be able to wrap my mind around this. I get that it's essentially been the law since the country was founded, but that it has maintained popular support since then is just something I cannot fathom.
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It will be interesting how this case goes but I'm not seeing the killer getting even charged let alone convicted.

Back in early days of America people went out west and slowly populated the land. The land on which you settle was literally called "a claim", not your property legally until much later. People were bullied and muscled out of their "claims" so those land conflicts were normal in the wild west. Certain states don't want to give up the old ways just like Amish don't want to give in into modern technology.

It is strange, it is a bizarre but to locals it is normal and right way to live.

Overall this tragedy was avoidable but there is too much adultery going on here.

I love it how in Texas everyone loves God but adultery and murder is ok. It is God given right to do anything you please?

That step dad is an aggressive little c*nt who managed to marry a very good looking judge and to obviously go around and f*ck some more as she was not enough. Real dad was too charged emotionally and didn't realize he is dealing with a cold blooded sociopath who only cares about self interest.
 
ExoduS said:
Back in early days of America people went out west and slowly populated the land. The land on which you settle was literally called "a claim", not your property legally until much later. People were bullied and muscled out of their "claims" so those land conflicts were normal in the wild west. Certain states don't want to give up the old ways just like Amish don't want to give in into modern technology.
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150 years ago the quickest transport was a horse or a train that did 30mph, one federal marshal to cover a territory as big as Rhode Island - I think I heard that in a John Ford movie, must be true. Maybe a telegraph wire. There's been some development since. British people had similar issues but maybe a peeler in every main city, Brits had guns and sharp pointy swords but with the coming of big society we just gave them up. Bloody politicians have never given us a constitution the buggers.
 
KirkDuyt said:
Not saying it makes him guilty, just saying that he didn't mean it is an ok sign. Obviously there is no way to concretely prove that Sweet Kyle meant to do the white supremacist sign in a group of white supremacists, but actually meant it as the ok sign, because yes, everyone obviously knows it's also an okay sign just as the swastika was originally not a nazi symbol either.

Context.

Kyle is a racist little cnut, which doesn't make him guilty of murder, it just makes him a cnut.

Though by my standards he's also a murderer. Same as marrying a 9 year old in a country where it's legal still makes you a nonce.
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Off course I agree he knows what he's doing. But where do we draw the line if we use this as a factor in deciding his innocence?

And just saying we made many stupid stuffs thinking some movement is cool back in our 18s but that doesnt always make us a psycopath racist. At least i see something good in him. Or maybe that's just me.
 
Just seen the video of the stepdad shooting the father. In only one country on this planet is that considered normal.
 
calodo2003 said:
Shock, desensitization, all of the above?
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Good point, with regards to desensitization I find that a lot when I see footage of people walking around with guns. Growing up on a farm I have seen people with them, but in very much a different setting. The one time I saw a guy walking on a street with a pistol was when I was a young teen, I completely shat myself and ran away in a panic. Dawned on me afterwards it was almost certainly just a bb gun.
 
I never ever see people with guns where I live (I know some who have them but you can't just carry them around where I live). We drove down to North Carolina this past Summer and it caught me off guard when I went to a gas station and the lady running the register had a pistol on her hip. There is no way I can live in a place where that is normal and those places may become more rare in the U.S. That video of the child custody argument that so easily could have been brought down but instead the other guy went and got his gun to escalate it. The victim was only threatening to go to the courts when the guy brought his gun out so I hope he goes to jail for life. It's just insane that shooting someone seems so easy for people. I don't even kill bugs when they are in my house (I just catch them and let them outside).
 
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This is absolutely mind boggling. I followed the case a bit on reddit and it seems the general consensus was he acted in self defence. As a Brit, the idea of turning up somewhere with an assault rifle and ending up shooting three people dead is pretty hard to fathom, but I resign to the fact its a cultural thing that non-Americans will never understand.

But to now celebrate him as a hero surely undermines any semblance of innocence? He obviously went to this thing knowing he was there because he shot three people. It's like a scene from a dystopia.
 
It's absolutely disgusting. American society is completely broken, probably beyond repair. I'm almost certain at this point all this is going to end very badly and very soon.
 
Dominick Black, Rittenhouse's friend who owned the gun (in Kenosha Wisconsin), has apparently agreed a plea deal that means he will pay $2000 as a fine for a non-criminal citation. No further punishment or record.

Its with the judge (same judge as the Rittenhouse trial) for approval.

Joshua Ziminski is about to go on trial for arson, but hasn't been charged with negligent discharge of a firearm or anything else related to the bizarre firing of his gun in the moments before Rosenbaum's death.
 
Following the settlement of the bond fight where it was split between Rittenhouse and the people who worked on the crowd funding campaign Rittenhouse is now launching a new campaign for some civil defamation lawsuits.

As I have said previously I don't think he has valid grounds because he is pretty undefamable since regardless of justification he shot 3 people and the public will have opinions on that.

It seems like a grift and an attempt to settle out if they survive anti-slapp motions.
 
The right were obviously going to make this guy a hero after the left decided to declare him guilty without even waiting for the evidence to be heard. Both sides come out of this whole situation looking incredibly stupid.
 
shaky said:
The right were obviously going to make this guy a hero after the left decided to declare him guilty without even waiting for the evidence to be heard. Both sides come out of this whole situation looking incredibly stupid.
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The right found him a hero because he was a 17yo who 'stood up for his community when the government were letting the city burn'. On top of that there is 2nd amendment and self defence issues that conservatives find important. Plus obviously a lot of conservatives are racist (in the classical sense) and the deceased were assumed to be BLM supporters (Rosenbaum wasn't, Huber was).

The fact that many news sources were manipulating the facts and lying about what happened just added fuel to a fire that was already burning.
 
Wait, Kyle's not on his way to Ukraine right now to protect businesses?
 
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