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the exemption isn't written that cleanly and commentary disagrees with what you have said.
Right, so defense attorneys who want to get their name out there for folks who are illegally carrying their rifles around like they're SEALs have said "oh, that's ambiguous, we can try this!"

My state has the exact same statute. It applies to hunting. It's bullshit to suggest otherwise.
 
Right, so defense attorneys who want to get their name out there for folks who are illegally carrying their rifles around like they're SEALs have said "oh, that's ambiguous, we can try this!"

My state has the exact same statute. It applies to hunting. It's bullshit to suggest otherwise.

who knows more about Wisconsin law a 30 year Wisconsin judge or you?
 
The fact that the Judge is instructing the jury on provocation based on a blurry image that the judge himself said he couldn't see, that the only testimony in the favour of was from a cop who watched it on his iPhone...

this judge is putting a lot of faith in the jury

the defence is utterly incompetent - they were winning the judge over and then just stopped after the prosecutor made his final point
 
It's been mentioned but deserves highlighting again.

This is one of the worst comments I've heard from a lawyer. This Kevin Gough is probably the worst human being I've seen practicing law recently (although I'm sure there are others out there just as bad as this). When talking about biases, this sounds like blatant racism.

"A defense attorney for one of the three White men charged in Black jogger Ahmaud Arbery's killing objected this week to nationally recognized civil rights leaders attending the trial to support the victim's family.
"If we're going to start a precedent, starting yesterday, where we're going to bring high-profile members of the African American community into the courtroom to sit with the family during the trial in the presence of the jury, I believe that's intimidating and it's an attempt to pressure -- could be consciously or unconsciously -- an attempt to pressure or influence the jury," attorney Kevin Gough said Thursday in court in Brunswick, Georgia."

https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/11/us/ahmaud-arbery-trial-defense-attorney-black-pastors/index.html
 
Does it specifiy what you have to hunt?

You would need to have a valid hunting license to claim you were using to hunt game. A hunting license is specific to the animals it covers and their seasons. Larger species require you must possess a tag with you.
 
Such a high profile case too, it's not a great sign for the American justice system perhaps. You'd think this was the one case where all sides involved would be at their best.

Great popcorn entertainment at times though.

Jury results are a crapshoot at this point.
 
You realize that I have access to legal opinions as well, thanks to the internet. Opinions on this very case.

You act like you're the only one reading about it.

See, this was your mistake. Stop all the reading. The only thing that matters is what the legal experts (especially right wing ones) say on TV. Reading is for commies.
 
Tell me, has something changed since Tuesday when the judge (again) dismissed the defense's motion to have the illegal possession charge dropped?

https://www.kenoshanews.com/news/lo...cle_ffc2241b-2b71-5a1a-a863-838837ee1a8b.html

yes, I've talked about that.

The prosecution failed to make the case that the gun was illegal, and they are currently at the jury instruction stage and wanted to hear the facts. He indicated that his instructions may adopt the defences framing or may dismiss now.

Overall today has been a massive win for the prosecution.

Of all the stupid things Rittenhouse has done, outside of the proud boys photo, the most stupid thing was hiring Richards as an attorney.
 
You can tell that judge is on Rittenhouses' side. The old cnut probably celebrated the killings when the news broke. Gotta show those damn lefties they mean business!
 
yes, I've talked about that.

The prosecution failed to make the case that the gun was illegal, and they are currently at the jury instruction stage and wanted to hear the facts. He indicated that his instructions may adopt the defences framing or may dismiss now.

Overall today has been a massive win for the prosecution.

Of all the stupid things Rittenhouse has done, outside of the proud boys photo, the most stupid thing was hiring Richards as an attorney.
I’d say it was pretty stupid to be under 18 carrying a loaded rifle on a city street after dark with no hunting permit. But what do I know?
 
Folks, we've entered the Night Court simulation dimension.

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I agree and have said so before.
That's great. It's also illegal... Because he's under 18, within city limits, after dark, without a hunting license. Not to mention Kyle himself said he was carrying the rifle "to protect myself in case I was attacked".
 
What a fecking clown.

The fact he allowed evidence in without any expert explanation of how the interpolation would work after it was allegedly received last Friday with the testimony of a proven incompetent cop who swore he saw Rittenhouse raise his gun because he watched it on an iPhone, and is now using it for the grounds for a provocation claim that the prosecution had previously failed to make any viable grounds on (because they know the carrying of a gun and running/jogging in a hostile crows with out being hostile himself etc is a bullshit argument and any attempt to supplement the claim on those basis were promptly dropped at any scrutiny from the judge) and is now expecting a jury to decide a case where that might be the evidence that has allowed a conviction with a long prison sentence that might otherwise not have is more baffling than him being eccentric.
 
It's been mentioned but deserves highlighting again.

This is one of the worst comments I've heard from a lawyer. This Kevin Gough is probably the worst human being I've seen practicing law recently (although I'm sure there are others out there just as bad as this). When talking about biases, this sounds like blatant racism.

"A defense attorney for one of the three White men charged in Black jogger Ahmaud Arbery's killing objected this week to nationally recognized civil rights leaders attending the trial to support the victim's family.
"If we're going to start a precedent, starting yesterday, where we're going to bring high-profile members of the African American community into the courtroom to sit with the family during the trial in the presence of the jury, I believe that's intimidating and it's an attempt to pressure -- could be consciously or unconsciously -- an attempt to pressure or influence the jury," attorney Kevin Gough said Thursday in court in Brunswick, Georgia."

https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/11/us/ahmaud-arbery-trial-defense-attorney-black-pastors/index.html
Dude might as well start whistling Dixie during cross examination.
 
Dude might as well start whistling Dixie during cross examination.

Was watching some of Nate the Lawyers stream on Arbery earlier and he seems more down than he had been.
Thinks the defence has had some wins starting with rolling back the home owners story where he was saying he wasn't bothered by Arbery using police logs.

If people are fuming about the Rittenhouse 'victims' decision, I heard Arbery isn't being allowed to be referred to as a jogger.
 
It's been mentioned but deserves highlighting again.

This is one of the worst comments I've heard from a lawyer. This Kevin Gough is probably the worst human being I've seen practicing law recently (although I'm sure there are others out there just as bad as this). When talking about biases, this sounds like blatant racism.

"A defense attorney for one of the three White men charged in Black jogger Ahmaud Arbery's killing objected this week to nationally recognized civil rights leaders attending the trial to support the victim's family.
"If we're going to start a precedent, starting yesterday, where we're going to bring high-profile members of the African American community into the courtroom to sit with the family during the trial in the presence of the jury, I believe that's intimidating and it's an attempt to pressure -- could be consciously or unconsciously -- an attempt to pressure or influence the jury," attorney Kevin Gough said Thursday in court in Brunswick, Georgia."

https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/11/us/ahmaud-arbery-trial-defense-attorney-black-pastors/index.html
Oh feck this guy. A disgrace to the profession.
 
Do you actually believe that if he had a gun he would be firing on the looters?
He literally described the gun his sister's boyfriend was holding for him. He went to Kenosha and killed people with said gun. Yeah, I reckon he would. It's called ideation.

And did you want to answer point 3.? What would it be like to be called a "mother fecking white supremacist cum bucket" all day? Would you keep your temper? Or do you think he was doing the Steve Bannon thing of owning your racism?
Agreed it would be relevant there.

If I was however in the vicinity of your grandmother though and she dropped dead. Maybe it wouldn't be as relevant in my opinion.


I really don't think that statement he made is relevant to this case because it really doesn't prove that he literally packed up his shit and went to Wisconsin get his illegal gun and purposely go out and kill people. I think he's an idiot a prick, should be charged for having an illegal gun etc.

But if I was in his position with my very legal firearm I would have probably done the same thing if a man was attacking me the way discribed and shown.
Would you shoot him once, or 4 times?
who knows more about Wisconsin law a 30 year Wisconsin judge or you?
Aren't you British?
You would need to have a valid hunting license to claim you were using to hunt game. A hunting license is specific to the animals it covers and their seasons. Larger species require you must possess a tag with you.
So, for hunting game, right. Not for defending yourself when you decide to join a militia??
You realize that I have access to legal opinions as well, thanks to the internet. Opinions on this very case.

You act like you're the only one reading about it.
He's not.
I’d say it was pretty stupid to be under 18 carrying a loaded rifle on a city street after dark with no hunting permit. But what do I know?
Yeah, but people who didn't want protecting needed protecting. He should have worn his pants on the outside.
I agree and have said so before.
So, surely you can see how that behaviour is provocative?
 
No. It's not that simple, even legally. He is not just being charged with murder where it's either outright murder or and only or self-defense. He is also being charged with reckless homicide and reckless endangerment and the other factors are relevant, I'd argue even crucial, to charges of reckless homicide and reckless endangerment. What happened in the 5 seconds prior is not the only fact relevant legally.

In other words, he can get off on any murder or intentional homicide and still be guilty of reckless homicide or even just reckless endangerment.
He literally described the gun his sister's boyfriend was holding for him. He went to Kenosha and killed people with said gun. Yeah, I reckon he would. It's called ideation.

And did you want to answer point 3.? What would it be like to be called a "mother fecking white supremacist cum bucket" all day? Would you keep your temper? Or do you think he was doing the Steve Bannon thing of owning your racism?

Would you shoot him once, or 4 times?

Aren't you British?

So, for hunting game, right. Not for defending yourself when you decide to join a militia??

He's not.

Yeah, but people who didn't want protecting needed protecting. He should have worn his pants on the outside.

So, surely you can see how that behaviour is provocative?
As much times as necessary to eliminate what I would deemed to be a threat against my life.