Would be a huge mistake to sell Mainoo. I am vehemently against it. Only thing that could change my mind is a nine figure fee. And even then, I wouldn’t be happy about it, but perhaps view it as a necessary evil on the road to rebuilding.
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But if we sell either Mainoo or Garnacho we have to replace them. Where are we going to find replacements at a similar level, with a similar trajectory?
These guys could be first team regulars for years to come and they cost us nothing.
It's extremely short sighted to sell such valuable, long term, assets.
He's not really got the leverage he thinks he does. Last season was fantastic, but this season has not been. He's yet to prove he's got a defined role in Amorim's system at this point in his career. He's also got to realize United isn't the club it was when it gave Rashford £350k a week - in fact, it's because of contracts like that we're in the situation we are. It's been laid bare that purse strings are tightening and there should be no exception for him. I think he's going to be fantastic and would hate to lose him, but if there's someone (abroad) that wants to pay £80-90m... I think we have to consider it, unfortunately.
The gutter press also don't decide the salaries either is the point, e.g the stories of his wages demands are a load of rubbish. The only way I saw Mainoo leaving this summer is if Amorim didn't fancy him, and this doesn't seem like its the case, based on Amorims own words.
The theory seems to be when you sell a home grown player, you bank the whole value as profit and immediately.
Meaning you can spend more than that fee as you can amortise the buys over numerous years.
However, as we've got about 1 signing in 30 right this last decade, I'm not confident we'll buy well.
I don't think the contract thing is being overblown. He'll stay I reckon.
Hasn’t Mainoo got two years left on his contract plus we’ve got the option of extending it by a further year ? If so he’s got effectively three years left on his contract so we’re in a position of power and under no pressure to sell unless it’s for financial reasons alone.
Question was "When was his last good game for us?" not "When was his last good game for us vs top team?".
Literally every other English midfielder bar 100 million pound Declan Rice. Southgate had a weird obsession with forcing Trent there, but he could have used Gallagher, Curtis Jones, Wharton. Im not saying it’s an inspiring list, but they’re premier league players.
You clearly don’t rate him, that’s okay, it’s your opinion.
He’s got three years on his deal. I would be hugely surprised if another club made a bid that was big enough to buy him. You’re right. He won’t leave, in my opinion.
There are no other good English midfielders.
Garnacho signed his contract in April 2023 and had played 14 premier league games, quite a few of them off the bench. These two situations are not comparable. Garnacho will be asking for a new contract in the next 12 months, or a move. Im very confident with that.
I said 90-100k previously. If you tie up a top young talent for 5 years at that kind of rate, it’s a good investment. Unless you really don’t see him as a premier league midfielder in the future, which probably makes our discussion pointless, as we will never agree based on what we think his ceiling and floor is.
This is such a tough one, he really doesn't fit into the Amorim system but we love him as a player, he should be more than he's on but INEOS are putting the brakes on the gravy train. I really hope he stays and can adapt to that 10 role
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I just can’t get myself excited about players or United much these days. Not because of trophies or anything like that. It’s just so uninspiring for so long now, hand in hand with all the off the pitch circus that’s been happening. Maybe I’m just getting old
If anyone buys Mainoo for £70 million (not that we will get that) - we could replace him with Angel Gomes, Jobe Bellingham or Chris Rigg from Sunderland and still have money to spare. Mainoo is good - but not great
All good talents, but none of them are guaranteed to be better than Mainoo. Mainoo is a huge talent and has achieved a lot for a player his age, and is from the academy. Let’s just not be too hasty, here (not saying those players won’t end up being better).
No club abroad would pay anywhere near that. Maybe an English club would pay 60m if we are really lucky.
Chelsea probably would - no other club though
I can't believe some of the clueless posts about mainoo. He was a breath of fresh air last season when he was fit. This season he was carrying an injury from the start.
No one knows how much he's currently on and how much he's demanding. He won't be going anywhere, it toxic how some United fans turn on their own.
No one knows how much he's currently on and how much he's demanding. He won't be going anywhere, it toxic how some United fans turn on their own.
Yea good point, I think you’re right that we’re just on different wavelengths
I think he’ll make it in the PL, but not as a starter for us or a top 7 club. If our goal is to get back into the CL spots and competing for titles, don’t think we need to bend over backwards to keep him - especially since his sale would be such a valuable FFP contribution
If he stays then I hope he proves me wrong but I wouldn’t bet on it - seems like a nifty player but limited
I’d swim across the Atlantic and personally carry him to to his next destination if we got a 9 figure fee.
i don’t see him leaving to be honest. He definitely has one, if not two, level ups from here.
His advisers are overplaying this hand. It’s too soon to be caught up in lengthy contractual discussions. The Rashford experience is fresh in many minds. They (agent et al) are burning up his “one of our own” rope.
Unless he truly doesn’t mind leaving. If that’s the case then good luck to him.
Unless he truly doesn’t mind leaving. If that’s the case then good luck to him.
In hindsight that "everyone is up for sale" line was a little misguided. Now the gutter press can go after anyone and be believed, even when reliable journalists are telling everyone it's bollocks.
consider it?
90m and he's gone. not that anyone outside EPL would ever pay that money.Vitinha and Neves combined cost PSG 90m.
no way Madrid or Barca rate him nearly enough for that kind of offer.
Olmo went for far less and that was after ending in Euro 2024 team of the tournament and being awarded golden boot.
any stupid offer would have to come from EPL club.
You are preaching to the converted, I am just stating the way I interpret the situation. Poor judgement, as you say.
If he does leave we should replace with Jobe Bellingham.
I can see Chelsea bidding for him if Enzo leaves in the summer. Won't be surprised at crazy valuations since he's worth more than Lavia for whom they paid £53m.
How to drain United's wallet:
- be a very good midfielder
I've never heard of this journalist, is he meant to be reliable?
What's all this he doesnt fit Amorim's system stuff about?
It's the go to excuse/coping mechanism, I think.
I don't really see who you can claim this. Yoro's first season as a pro was less impressive than Mainoo's all things considered. In their 2nd second, they've been as injured as each other really. I'm very happy with Yoro as a talent, I think his floor potential is very high. His ceiling however is a different story. We hope that he can get to the Rio, Varance or Van djik level but that's absolutely not guaranteed. He is fast but he's not a 'can keep ip with any attacker fast', needs to improve aerially and his long pass is in consistent.
I think Mainoo has every right to look at Yoro and expect to match his salary.
For me, the main issue is of how he fits with Amorim's system. If I were him, unless I'm clear on my role and trajectory within the club, I'd leave.
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I think that there are some fair questions about asking where he fits in.
He’s barely played under Amorim, and when he has it’s been in various positions.
This doesn’t equate to ‘he doesn’t fit’ but I think it does mean that we don’t know yet where he would fit into this team.
No way he is leaving. This is all just clickbait smokescreen nonsense to get him the best deal possible.
New contracts should be based on lower basic salary with more performance related bonuses.
He ain’t getting a Woodward era salary off Jim. And he won’t leave.
New contracts should be based on lower basic salary with more performance related bonuses.
He ain’t getting a Woodward era salary off Jim. And he won’t leave.
Amorim also said Mainoo is not a midfielder.
I'm amazed at how many that's seemingly writing off a 19yo on the back of a disastrous season for the club as whole, where the player has struggled with injuries and hasn't really gotten into to his best form while being played/expected to perform in a experimental and constantly rotating set-up under a new coach. On top of that he was vastly overplayed by both club and country last season, so hopefully the forced time off with injuries contributes to him being able to rest and ease himself into a better condition.
I'm sure that he bounces back again next season after a good summer off and in a improved/less chaotic team. It's way to soon to categorically state that he doesn't fit Amorims system.
That said, no need to rush into a 150-200k per/week contract with plenty of time left on his contract. Give him parity with Yoro and Amad and his contractual terms/trajectory will follow his development.
I'm sure that he bounces back again next season after a good summer off and in a improved/less chaotic team. It's way to soon to categorically state that he doesn't fit Amorims system.
That said, no need to rush into a 150-200k per/week contract with plenty of time left on his contract. Give him parity with Yoro and Amad and his contractual terms/trajectory will follow his development.
At the time at least wasn't at all ready. Played 16 games last season (don't know how many started Vs subs), wasn't injured.
Hmmmm not sure. Mainoo last season had us all purring. Second season syndrome, not sure he’s actually been fully fit at all this season.
Yoro came with a big reputation as a ‘Rolls Royce’ type centre back. I must admit, I never saw him play before we got him, but I’ve not been impressed by him at all in the games he’s played for us so far. But at 19, that’s okay, centre halves rarely succeed in the prem at that age, so no judgement calls yet.
But it seems a major call to so confidently and nonchalantly say he’s on a different level trajectory wise to Kobbie. I don’t agree with that at all.