I mean remember Fati? Barca will ride that kid even when he should be resting
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
He wasn't great but our structure was all over the place. 3 centre backs deep in their own half near the penalty box being pressed by Southampton and then our 3 attacking players pressing their defenders near the opposition keeper.
He should be further up, I don't think he's an 8.
Is his passing range good enough? A number 8 is the hardest position in football to fill. It’s essentially Modric. He could become that in time but it won’t be until his late 20’s.
By further up I'm talking closer to the oppositions box. He can dribble past players, really good close control and link play and has a good shot. I also think there's big potential for link up between him, Zirkzee and Amad. Only thing is the lack of pace, but if we could get a really good attacking wingback it wouldn't really matter.
His link play is poor, it's been one of his biggest criticisms.
He’s a 10. I don’t think I can be convinced he can play as a 6 or 8. His passing range is not remotely expansive enough and he’s not athletic enough (yet. Still time to develop this area). He does his best work in the opposition half between the lines. His only truly top quality ability is his close control and pass and move. He’s a bit martial like in that respect.
He does have great potential, mainly because of his age and temperament BUT I don’t think he’s unsellable or destined to be guaranteed top class
He does have great potential, mainly because of his age and temperament BUT I don’t think he’s unsellable or destined to be guaranteed top class
Strongly disagree. He's great at one and two touch. Excellent at pass at move.
Probably his strongest point
What does he do? Hide away from the ball, giving the Cb's no passing avenue. You can't be on the field as a midfielder, especially one with more creative responsibility, and allow your defense to struggle to progress the ball up the pitch - that's hiding.
Immediately Erickson came on. Watch how he slots into Martinez's space allowing the latter to push up the LWB position and giving us a passing avenue that immediately dissolved Southampton's press. Once we broke out from the back, he pushed back into midfield to help in possession. Exactly how we came about Amad's goal.
The boy should sit and learn more.
Unfortunately, Erickson is not 10 years younger.
Immediately Erickson came on. Watch how he slots into Martinez's space allowing the latter to push up the LWB position and giving us a passing avenue that immediately dissolved Southampton's press. Once we broke out from the back, he pushed back into midfield to help in possession. Exactly how we came about Amad's goal.
The boy should sit and learn more.
Unfortunately, Erickson is not 10 years younger.
One thing he does not do is hide away from the ball. But he doesn't understand the positioning of a midfielder because guess what, he isn't one.
No point criticising him for the player you want him to be when he isn't that player in the first place. I think one we sign a midfielder with a more athletic profile and expensive range he will move further up. I hope at least.
Over the years he might develop into an all round top CM.
Atm IMO he looks more of a natural number 10/attacking midfielder
You could see for the under-18s he looked way more comfortable in the final third of the pitch around the edge of the box, than pulling strings from deep..
Didn't he say in a recent interview when he was 15yrs old he was playing on the wings?
Anyway for me he's unsellable. He's still a top young talent with huge potential.
I want him to stay, develop his craft and become a top player at United.
Atm IMO he looks more of a natural number 10/attacking midfielder
You could see for the under-18s he looked way more comfortable in the final third of the pitch around the edge of the box, than pulling strings from deep..
Didn't he say in a recent interview when he was 15yrs old he was playing on the wings?
Anyway for me he's unsellable. He's still a top young talent with huge potential.
I want him to stay, develop his craft and become a top player at United.
This thread is so poor.
Don’t forget that he didn’t have a pre-season at the start of the campaign and was injured and out for 4 months during the one the year before so didn’t beneficiate from it. He needs time to improve his stamina and ability to cover large space and you need time off the pitch to train that.
And the fact that we shouldn't be in the position where we're relying on a 19 year old midfielder being a consistent performer week in week out in the Premier League.
We should have senior first team midfielders to allow us to manage his minutes better and allow him to develop without the pressure of being a first team player.
It very much sounds like Pogba, whatever position he's played in, it's another position he should be played.
I'm not sure why 10 would be better.
I think he's great, but when we play him, we just don't stop, it's game after game, he needs someone to switch with to get some rest, as he gets fitter and bigger he will be great
Absolutely bingo, getting a good number of minutes is brilliant for a young player but there are limits. No wonder he sometimes looks tired.
The problem is that we have no adequate replacement. Our best midfield is Ugarte Mainoo and Bruno Collyear can cover for Ugarte, but there is no obvious cover for Mainoo, so he is overplayed. Once we are safe we should ty Moorhouse and /or Fletcher
Yeah I thought we were 1 midfielder light going into this season. I suppose it was hard to justify signing two in the summer when Casemiro and Eriksen are on high wages.
It certainly isn't helping Mainoo.
It's a lazy comparison to make. If you're not playing someone in their best position, you can't criticise them for things they aren't able to do. They're simply not that kind of player.
If you're not sure why he's better further forward, look at his abilities as a footballer. He's got a good finish, superb at one and two touch play, wonderful technician and a really good dribbler.
Because he grew up playing his football mostly in the attacking third of the pitch.
IMO a number 10 role currently would be more natural to him..
His link up play is pretty good I think, he looks like the type of player who thrives on quick short passing with teammates around him.
It’s his stamina and running speed that is his biggest issue in that no. 8 position and what will hamper him there in my opinion.
As one of the 10’s, that’d suit him much better for now.
I'd like him to get a rest today for collyer. Bring him on for legs in the last 30
Regardless of where you play him, he needs to develop his game if he wants to be a top player.
Because it will be difficult for him to be so in any position with his current level of physicality. And there are other flaws too, like passing range not exactly being outstanding.
But that's fine, because he's 19 years old. You expect plenty of flaws. Think some people expect too much from a player who (due to the lack of quality in our squad) has been overpromoted in importance relative to his age.
Because it will be difficult for him to be so in any position with his current level of physicality. And there are other flaws too, like passing range not exactly being outstanding.
But that's fine, because he's 19 years old. You expect plenty of flaws. Think some people expect too much from a player who (due to the lack of quality in our squad) has been overpromoted in importance relative to his age.
He's only 19, his form is meant to be inconsistent. I feel he's still playing within himself a bit too much when he has the ball, that's my only real criticism of him from a technical standpoint. He needs to work on his athleticism if he wants to be world class, he has all the other tools but his speed and stamina is lacking. It's probably just because he's growing into his body so I don't think anyone should be too concerned about him just yet. He needs time to develop, we need to have patience.
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He really is poor this season.
Does barely anything, no quick passing, no ball winning, no creative movements, can’t switch play, too weak and terrible defensively.
He might become a very good midfielder but right now he’s still miles off.
He might become a very good midfielder but right now he’s still miles off.
Needs to get real re his wage demands if there's any truth to him asking for 200k a week.
Completely miles off it this season and needs dropping for a few games.
Completely miles off it this season and needs dropping for a few games.
Bloody awful, again
Good dribbler, but he has no other attributes you need for playing football. Our midfield is just irrelevant in almost every game, might as well play without it.
He still has a lot to learn. The list seems to get a little longer each week.
He isn't a starter, imo. But, we have no real options, so he's starting and playing more games than he should.
He isn't a starter, imo. But, we have no real options, so he's starting and playing more games than he should.
This is not inconsistent form. Inconsistent is some good some bad. This is just flat out bad.
I just don’t see it with him in a consistent basis.
Yes he can be brilliant at times but he’s small, slow and weak and he has the engine of an asthmatic coal miner.
Yes he can be brilliant at times but he’s small, slow and weak and he has the engine of an asthmatic coal miner.
Say what you like about his game, but his conditioning, physique and stamina levels are extremely concerning.
Yeah think I'm off the Mainoo bandwagon in a 2 man midfield. He'll look decent in the right kind of 3 but his atheltic ability is laughable. Just before he came off he made an overlapping run for one of our attacks and he was so laboured in his running. Can't have a midfielder in a dynamic tactic who has no engine.
He has played over 50 senior matches for this club. The profile of player he is has been clearly set both through the stats and through watching him over those 50+ matches.
I’m not entirely convinced the strengths outweigh the negatives, at this point.
I’m not entirely convinced the strengths outweigh the negatives, at this point.
I can't believe people consider him unsellable. I'm not necessarily saying I think Mainoo is as poor as he's been the past few matches but if Chelsea really were to offer us 100 million, I would snap their hand off for it.
He struggled but so did Ugarte who is 4 years older. And while he was playing against other young midfielders, he's 19 and they were 21. You could really see the physicality difference with Baleba who was the best DM, but also the better decision making from Ayari in opposition as well.
Mainoo looked tidy in parts early on but withered away big time after the break. On hindsight Collyer should have started as an antidote to Brighton's intensity.