OK then I can say that they finished 2nd after winning the league.
Klopp to leave Liverpool at the end of the season
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OK then I can say that they finished 2nd after winning the league.
Do you have a link to any of them saying that? I'm pretty sure I remember hearing Meulensteen on a podcast talk about the tactical drills he was instructed to run when he was at United.
Take a look at the youtube stuff with Wright, Neville, Keane, etc. The interview with Ole. Keane and Neville said that they hardly did tactics during training. The thing is, that showed that Fergie was able to have his teams playing at a high quality and winning league and European titles. Amazing if you ask me.
Ask Roy Keane if he’d celebrate getting to a final or any of the 99 team and they’d think you’re mad. It’s a losers mentality
What are you even arguing here?
You could flip that argument around. Fergie managed an entire club from top to bottom. Pep coaches a first team. Could he cope if he had to have an eye on everything? I’m sure that he would have learnt but just say that you could turn your argument on its head
That's absolutely true but here's the thing, would they actually allow Pep to control everything given their "115 charges". It may be a case of plausible deniability.
Regardless of all those things, the game has changed now. He would have help at every level reporting into him.
They won the CL straight after the year they got to the final though, so that losers mentality served them pretty well.
I bet if you got McKenna in, and he built a team that got to a CL final, or lost the league on the final day having got 97 points or whatever, you’d have a very different perspective rather than ‘nothing to celebrate, losers mentality’ etc.
I wouldn’t. No one remembers who came second in sport
use it as motivation to go again. But celebrate? No chance
Inter
This feels sexual,
They still in mourning ?
The fact we are talking about it suggests we do remember who comes second.
But more than that I’d assume it’s a way for the players, manager, and fans to show they appreciate each other. If they all stood up there and said ‘this is it, we’ve peaked as the second best team in Europe and we’re delighted with that and seek no more’ you’d have a point.
Sorry totally disagree. It’s the attitude of a moyes or rogers
What do you reckon they got up to in training then? Did some of the seemingly tactical decisions, like Park nullifying Pirlo, only emerge due to the player's individual freedom of expression?
The way people speak about "the game moving on from Fergie" talk as if 1986 was the same era as 2013. He always adapted with the times, hence why he retired at 70 as a champion, instead of abandoning the club in his mid 50s due to a lack of energy.
Carlos Quieroz had the players standing around the pitch with one player holding the ball and the others having to walk to the positions they should be in when the ball is in that part of the field ahead of our champions league fixtures.
This thing about "no tactics Fergie" is very selective cherry picking of throwaway comments, if you look at the Overlap podcasts it's not what they're saying at all. Also, Fergie's time at the club wasn't constant, loads of things changed between 1986 and 2013 in his approach. Of course there were tactical sessions and clear tactics in games. We didn't wank over them as much as we do now in the era of the condescending nerd, but to suggest Fergie had a less extensive "knowledge of the game" than Pep did is frankly farcical.
I can’t believe I just read this…
“These days, you can't just 'get the best out of players". You need to look at tactics of your team and the opposition, along with other factors that affect the team on the pitch”
And it was aimed at SAF. fecking bizarre
There's some strange posters on this forum these days. feck me.
Sorry man, I was in bad space that night. Lost 3 patients at the table, and got little... Touchy. Sorry again man. I just projected my frustration on you. You didn't deserve.
It’s not just these days, that particular poster gassed up Wenger over Fergie years ago, him underrating whiskey nose isn’t something new.
In general though, there are a lot of oppos and ABUs sticking the knife in because we are shit.
Whiskey nose?
Feck, that is rough. Don't be worried about apologising to the likes of me when you have that kind of thing to deal with.
x1? Last season Arsenal didn't challenge them in your eyes?
And that winner's mentality has won what in the interim between Ferguson leaving and now? Maybe making a fuss about the best manager you were ever going to have would have been worthwhile rather than fetishising "mentality" as being all important
It's just become very fancy to hate everything Utd related, even when it concerns arguably the best manager to have ever graced the game, who reinvented himself over and over during several decades, kept winning, adapted to new trends, new players, new generations, but obviously knew nothing about tactics cos he didn't play inverted fullbacks basically. Of course ignoring the fact these master tacticians they mention aren't inventing anything and are rebranding old trends (which is a form of progress and intelligence, 100%). But hey, Fergie built the biggest club in the world on vibes.
In fairness, several players having played under him don't help given their self deprecating nature, and their constant need to downplay their achievements, vs other teams that will glorify the most mundane of things. It's just PR and narratives at the end of the day.
Look you guys have at it if it makes you warm and fuzzy. I find the idea of celebrating but not winning anything bonkers. Bet hey gotta keep your bus rentals up
I need to apologize beacuse it was my fault picking on you. Sorry again and thanks for understanding. I really appreciate that. Sorry one more time.
https://www.yardbarker.com/soccer/a...ed_show_how_much_he_gets_us/s1_15959_40372265
First thing to learn there so he was a good student.
First thing to learn there so he was a good student.
Has he fecked off yet? Is it safe to turn the telly and radio on? Have the scousers finished their grief fest yet?
Bloody hell never in the history of the game has any manager and any group of supporters been as annoying.
Bloody hell never in the history of the game has any manager and any group of supporters been as annoying.
More cringey bollocks. He's up there with Martin Luther King and Barrack Obama now. 
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...ool-football-fans-jurgen-klopp-premier-league
I need to stop reading this shit because it's winding me up, but they really are a special breed aren't they.
I would have loved to have him as our manager, and I'd be devastated if he was leaving - but equally I'd be embarrassed if we were all grieving his exit in this way.
The best quote on the link above is the guy saying how jealous Arsenal, Chelsea and Man United fans would be of his trophy haul in the past nine years. Is that the same Chelsea who have won nearly identical the amount of trophies? Most knowledgeable fans in the world la.
I need to stop reading this shit because it's winding me up, but they really are a special breed aren't they.
I would have loved to have him as our manager, and I'd be devastated if he was leaving - but equally I'd be embarrassed if we were all grieving his exit in this way.
The best quote on the link above is the guy saying how jealous Arsenal, Chelsea and Man United fans would be of his trophy haul in the past nine years. Is that the same Chelsea who have won nearly identical the amount of trophies? Most knowledgeable fans in the world la.
More cringey bollocks. He's up there with Martin Luther King and Barrack Obama now.
Wasn't there a German or Austrian they could compare him to? Perhaps one who was great at giving speeches and enjoyed painting and shorts.
More cringey bollocks. He's up there with Martin Luther King and Barrack Obama now.
Oh ffs, who's that Dominic Cummings looking fella comparing him to Obama/MLK? Might as well as gone the whole hog and mentioned another German speaking fella who was brilliant at whipping up a crowd.
More cringey bollocks. He's up there with Martin Luther King and Barrack Obama now.
He's right, Klopp knew exactly what he was doing with that celebration with the crowd after the 2-2 vs. West Bromwich. It galvanized the team and supporters, so much so that they went on to lose the following game against Watford 3-0. Genius work.
How are these people this cringey? This is a guy who would regularly be in the face of the 4th official. Just last season he pulled a muscle celebrating in the face of a referee, yet he is seen as some kind of saint.
I've learned over the time that there's no point trying make sense of it. It's a c u l t.
More cringey bollocks. He's up there with Martin Luther King and Barrack Obama now.
Fecking hell.
You don’t see this with any other club, absolute cringe fest.I’m just humouring the resident Scousers in their grief by using that endearing term
