Klopp to leave Liverpool at the end of the season

Be quite nice in future to not have to see the camera cut to him every two minutes, gurning like his teeth don't fit in his head.
 
Why is there an asterisk next to it? Should t that be next to City’s 2021 title?
Don't know about the poster you're quoting, but I wouldn't mind if we go one step further and strip all of City's post-takeover titles.
 
Don't know about the poster you're quoting, but I wouldn't mind if we go one step further and strip all of City's post-takeover titles.
Same here. I’d argue that if you wanted to be really technical, the only legitimate winner of the Premier League since we last won it would be Leicester 2016. If you wanted to be even more technical (as Leicester broke some FFP rules; we broke one recently but that was way after we won all of our titles), then we’re the only team to have legitimately won the league since 2004. Kinda petty, I know.
 
It was a freak 9 game rounds. For 29 game rounds it was completely normal.
I agree. If I remember correctly, Liverpool went on a staggering run winning something like 27 matches out of 28. The title was a formality. Anyone insinuating that the covid situation was a major determining factor is being disingenuous.
 
Why is there an asterisk next to it?

Copium. That’s why!

Klopp did a good job, got them back challenging and winning. Could’ve won more but unfortunate being up against that City side (who shouldn’t even have been allowed to build that team with all those charges). Some weaker seasons, wonder if that’s due to missing out on the title in the manner they did. I don’t have the timelines right now, but was it like losing the title 2-3 times after the last game and lagging 1-2 points or something?

Think his Liverpool side missed a WC midfield the likes City and us had during his period. That would potentially been the difference. But still; good job and understandable he’ll be missed by the fans.
 
Copium. That’s why!

Klopp did a good job, got them back challenging and winning. Could’ve won more but unfortunate being up against that City side (who shouldn’t even have been allowed to build that team with all those charges). Some weaker seasons, wonder if that’s due to missing out on the title in the manner they did. I don’t have the timelines right now, but was it like losing the title 2-3 times after the last game and lagging 1-2 points or something?

Think his Liverpool side missed a WC midfield the likes City and us had during his period. That would potentially been the difference. But still; good job and understandable he’ll be missed by the fans.
No WC midfield is by design in Klopps teams : the gegenpress is the best creator of chances so the midfielders task is to work hard and press even harder..
 
I agree. If I remember correctly, Liverpool went on a staggering run winning something like 27 matches out of 28. The title was a formality. Anyone insinuating that the covid situation was a major determining factor is being disingenuous.

It was a factor in that most clubs took every conceivable precaution, essentially throwing the season, because nobody knew quite how severe Covid might be. Considering the social situation at the time, few wanted to risk the optics of doing less than everything possible to minimize Covid's damage to society, because no club wanted to become a rallying flag for the anti-mask movement and things like that. So, most clubs undertook such heavy restrictions and precautions that they effectively sacrificed their season. But one club didn't, and effortlessly won the title as a result because absolutely nobody else was attempting to compete for real due to the unknown risks of operating as usual. That is a contributing factor.

Does anyone really think that Liverpool were twenty points better than City, who won the title the year before and since (every year since, at that)? No. It wasn't some magical miracle season where Liverpool were the strongest sports team in the history of human society. There's a very real likelihood that Liverpool wouldn't have won the title at all if it had been a normal year, and if they hadn't, then that would mean that Covid is the reason they won. It's obviously impossible to find that out, but it most certainly is a possibility, and not an insignificant one.
 
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It was a factor in that most clubs took every conceivable precaution, essentially throwing the season, because nobody knew quite how severe Covid might be. Considering the social situation at the time, few wanted to risk the optics of doing less than everything possible to minimize Covid's damage to society, because no club wanted to become a rallying flag for the anti-mask movement and things like that. So, most clubs undertook such heavy restrictions and precautions that they effectively sacrificed their season. But one club didn't, and effortlessly won the title as a result because absolutely nobody else was attempting to compete for real due to the unknown risks of operating as usual. That is a contributing factor.

But not a major one given the enormous lead they built. It isn't as if they pulled away from everyone the moment the EPL resumed. If anything, I think it was the other way around I.e. their pre-covid levels were higher than their post-restart levels.
 
Silly Liverpool fans being sad over Klopp leaving. You're getting bald jesus, rejoice heretics.
 
But not a major one given the enormous lead they built. It isn't as if they pulled away from everyone the moment the EPL resumed. If anything, I think it was the other way around I.e. their pre-covid levels were higher than their post-restart levels.
Can't believe you bit at that. :lol:
 
But not a major one given the enormous lead they built. It isn't as if they pulled away from everyone the moment the EPL resumed. If anything, I think it was the other way around I.e. their pre-covid levels were higher than their post-restart levels.

The season wasn't put on hold the moment Covid arrived. Clubs were taking precautions - as was all of society - well before the PL lockdown was put in place. However, since there was no rule dictating exactly what precautions clubs had to take, most just did as much as possible and effectively signed themselves out of the season. Liverpool didn't, and won. It's not as if Liverpool were actually twenty points better than City in a sporting sense--anyone who says so is wildly deluded. That was down to the pandemic.
 
He’s still going to be at Anfield first game of the season doing laps talking to fans
 
Would love to see a first day and last day photo of him.

youthfull blonde look gone, glasses gone, smile gone, an angry man, he's like a different person.
 
Words can’t describe how relieved I am that this absolute cringe monster is leaving the premier league. 1 pl in 9 years.:lol: PL legend my arse.

Get fecked you donkey teeth dick head. I hope you never recover from that Antonio Valencia offside goal and I wish you remember that quadruple farewell tour for the rest of your life.
 
Came to knock us off our perch and return Liverpool to the top of English football. Achieved neither.
 
It was a factor in that most clubs took every conceivable precaution, essentially throwing the season, because nobody knew quite how severe Covid might be. Considering the social situation at the time, few wanted to risk the optics of doing less than everything possible to minimize Covid's damage to society, because no club wanted to become a rallying flag for the anti-mask movement and things like that. So, most clubs undertook such heavy restrictions and precautions that they effectively sacrificed their season. But one club didn't, and effortlessly won the title as a result because absolutely nobody else was attempting to compete for real due to the unknown risks of operating as usual. That is a contributing factor.

Does anyone really think that Liverpool were twenty points better than City, who won the title the year before and since (every year since, at that)? No. It wasn't some magical miracle season where Liverpool were the strongest sports team in the history of human society. There's a very real likelihood that Liverpool wouldn't have won the title at all if it had been a normal year, and if they hadn't, then that would mean that Covid is the reason they won. It's obviously impossible to find that out, but it most certainly is a possibility, and not an insignificant one.

This is honestly just insane historical revisionism.

Liverpool were ahead of City by 17 points at the start of January, which had turned into 22 by the end of the month. Their massive lead at the time had absolutely nothing to do with Covid. Can you argue that Covid uncertainties made it easier to keep said huge lead until the end of the season? Sure, maybe, but considering that no team has ever lost the title after leading by such a margin, saying that there was "a very real likelihood" they might not have won the season without Covid just sounds ridiculous. Especially since it wasn't exactly some miracle season out of nowhere, they only got two more points than the one before.
 
I'm not here to defend klopp but that's due to their style and why he changed it. The "heavy metal" style cannot last, so every good season is followed by a poor one.
Changing it evidently didn’t help, when they’ve not even finished runner up the last 3 seasons.

Look, he’s a great manager, but saying that the only obstacle to his team dominating the league (I.e winning more than 1 title in 9 years) is City when his team finished outside of top 2 70% of the time is fecking mental. You can give him a bit of leeway and scratch off the first 3 team building seasons, that’s still half the time.

The fact of the matter is he built 1 great team and has failed to sustain or refresh it, just like his Dortmund. As much as you want to discredit Pep’s achievements, they are simply aren’t in the same stratosphere when it comes to league consistency
 
It was a factor in that most clubs took every conceivable precaution, essentially throwing the season, because nobody knew quite how severe Covid might be. Considering the social situation at the time, few wanted to risk the optics of doing less than everything possible to minimize Covid's damage to society, because no club wanted to become a rallying flag for the anti-mask movement and things like that. So, most clubs undertook such heavy restrictions and precautions that they effectively sacrificed their season. But one club didn't, and effortlessly won the title as a result because absolutely nobody else was attempting to compete for real due to the unknown risks of operating as usual. That is a contributing factor.

Does anyone really think that Liverpool were twenty points better than City, who won the title the year before and since (every year since, at that)? No. It wasn't some magical miracle season where Liverpool were the strongest sports team in the history of human society. There's a very real likelihood that Liverpool wouldn't have won the title at all if it had been a normal year, and if they hadn't, then that would mean that Covid is the reason they won. It's obviously impossible to find that out, but it most certainly is a possibility, and not an insignificant one.

Well said, the context of their lead when the league was suspended is often overlooked.

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Well said, the context of their lead when the league was suspended is often overlooked.

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The only context that matters that season is that without an Ole masterclass, they'd have the longest winning streak in the PL and probably first division history.