V.O.
Last Man Standing finalist 2019/20
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Be quite nice in future to not have to see the camera cut to him every two minutes, gurning like his teeth don't fit in his head.
He was definitely more likeable back then, though.
Nah, he has sound politics.He was always a twat.
Don't know about the poster you're quoting, but I wouldn't mind if we go one step further and strip all of City's post-takeover titles.Why is there an asterisk next to it? Should t that be next to City’s 2021 title?
Same here. I’d argue that if you wanted to be really technical, the only legitimate winner of the Premier League since we last won it would be Leicester 2016. If you wanted to be even more technical (as Leicester broke some FFP rules; we broke one recently but that was way after we won all of our titles), then we’re the only team to have legitimately won the league since 2004. Kinda petty, I know.Don't know about the poster you're quoting, but I wouldn't mind if we go one step further and strip all of City's post-takeover titles.
Just like the Ferguson ref asterisks if we're REALLY being holistic.
It was a freak season.Why is there an asterisk next to it? Should t that be next to City’s 2021 title?
I mean, to be fair, they had the title basically wrapped up since December and City were uncharacteristically poor that season.It was a freak season.
It was a freak 9 game rounds. For 29 game rounds it was completely normal.It was a freak season.
I agree. If I remember correctly, Liverpool went on a staggering run winning something like 27 matches out of 28. The title was a formality. Anyone insinuating that the covid situation was a major determining factor is being disingenuous.It was a freak 9 game rounds. For 29 game rounds it was completely normal.
Why is there an asterisk next to it?
How embarrasing is this?
No WC midfield is by design in Klopps teams : the gegenpress is the best creator of chances so the midfielders task is to work hard and press even harder..Copium. That’s why!
Klopp did a good job, got them back challenging and winning. Could’ve won more but unfortunate being up against that City side (who shouldn’t even have been allowed to build that team with all those charges). Some weaker seasons, wonder if that’s due to missing out on the title in the manner they did. I don’t have the timelines right now, but was it like losing the title 2-3 times after the last game and lagging 1-2 points or something?
Think his Liverpool side missed a WC midfield the likes City and us had during his period. That would potentially been the difference. But still; good job and understandable he’ll be missed by the fans.
I agree. If I remember correctly, Liverpool went on a staggering run winning something like 27 matches out of 28. The title was a formality. Anyone insinuating that the covid situation was a major determining factor is being disingenuous.
It was a factor in that most clubs took every conceivable precaution, essentially throwing the season, because nobody knew quite how severe Covid might be. Considering the social situation at the time, few wanted to risk the optics of doing less than everything possible to minimize Covid's damage to society, because no club wanted to become a rallying flag for the anti-mask movement and things like that. So, most clubs undertook such heavy restrictions and precautions that they effectively sacrificed their season. But one club didn't, and effortlessly won the title as a result because absolutely nobody else was attempting to compete for real due to the unknown risks of operating as usual. That is a contributing factor.
How embarrasing is this?
They'll be disappointed if they do. No fecking way Slot will do this type of shite.Oh god. Do Liverpool fans like this sort of shite?
Cringe factor 100. He’s always been a pseudo nice guy. glad to see the back of him.Oh god. Do Liverpool fans like this sort of shite?
Can't believe you bit at that.But not a major one given the enormous lead they built. It isn't as if they pulled away from everyone the moment the EPL resumed. If anything, I think it was the other way around I.e. their pre-covid levels were higher than their post-restart levels.
How embarrasing is this?
But not a major one given the enormous lead they built. It isn't as if they pulled away from everyone the moment the EPL resumed. If anything, I think it was the other way around I.e. their pre-covid levels were higher than their post-restart levels.
How embarrasing is this?
It was a factor in that most clubs took every conceivable precaution, essentially throwing the season, because nobody knew quite how severe Covid might be. Considering the social situation at the time, few wanted to risk the optics of doing less than everything possible to minimize Covid's damage to society, because no club wanted to become a rallying flag for the anti-mask movement and things like that. So, most clubs undertook such heavy restrictions and precautions that they effectively sacrificed their season. But one club didn't, and effortlessly won the title as a result because absolutely nobody else was attempting to compete for real due to the unknown risks of operating as usual. That is a contributing factor.
Does anyone really think that Liverpool were twenty points better than City, who won the title the year before and since (every year since, at that)? No. It wasn't some magical miracle season where Liverpool were the strongest sports team in the history of human society. There's a very real likelihood that Liverpool wouldn't have won the title at all if it had been a normal year, and if they hadn't, then that would mean that Covid is the reason they won. It's obviously impossible to find that out, but it most certainly is a possibility, and not an insignificant one.
Changing it evidently didn’t help, when they’ve not even finished runner up the last 3 seasons.I'm not here to defend klopp but that's due to their style and why he changed it. The "heavy metal" style cannot last, so every good season is followed by a poor one.
Just like the Ferguson ref asterisks if we're REALLY being holistic.
It was a factor in that most clubs took every conceivable precaution, essentially throwing the season, because nobody knew quite how severe Covid might be. Considering the social situation at the time, few wanted to risk the optics of doing less than everything possible to minimize Covid's damage to society, because no club wanted to become a rallying flag for the anti-mask movement and things like that. So, most clubs undertook such heavy restrictions and precautions that they effectively sacrificed their season. But one club didn't, and effortlessly won the title as a result because absolutely nobody else was attempting to compete for real due to the unknown risks of operating as usual. That is a contributing factor.
Does anyone really think that Liverpool were twenty points better than City, who won the title the year before and since (every year since, at that)? No. It wasn't some magical miracle season where Liverpool were the strongest sports team in the history of human society. There's a very real likelihood that Liverpool wouldn't have won the title at all if it had been a normal year, and if they hadn't, then that would mean that Covid is the reason they won. It's obviously impossible to find that out, but it most certainly is a possibility, and not an insignificant one.
How embarrasing is this?
The greatest manager in history didn’t bribe referees. That’s just you coping.Just like the Ferguson ref asterisks if we're REALLY being holistic.
Well said, the context of their lead when the league was suspended is often overlooked.
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