Kim Min-jae | signed for Bayern

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The sources who seemed dead certain he was joining us I’d never heard off before. It was no different to the average Portuguese news outlet saying we’re 100% signing someone from one of the big 3 teams in Portugal and never happens.

I think Di Marzio himself is based in Naples so if he wasn’t saying anything then there’s no chance

Yeah never looked on did it,ah well much like Rabiot may as well lock thread now
 
Another target lost



Many other teams lost out and not just United, who were never really linked with him. There was no bidding war nor teams talking about personal terms, aside from Bayern, so it's clear that initial conversations were going nowhere because the player's representatives and the player himself made it clear who the only club he was going to...Bayern.
 
Blame the fact he obviously wasn't convinced of getting enough gametime at Utd

I have strong doubts we were ever serious about him. We would have heard links to other CBs too, if it was a position we were really going for. Looks like @bosnian_red was right.
 
I openly blame Captain Fat Feck for this.

If Maguire was gone, it would have been far easier to convince Kim of the prospect of plenty of game time.
Yes, with the guy who virtually never gets to play out of the picture, we'd be able to convince a player that he'd get plenty of game time.
 
I have strong doubts we were ever serious about him. We would have heard links to other CBs too, if it was a position we were really going for. Looks like @bosnian_red was right.
Timing is a factor.

Signs are we aren’t going be spending a huge fortune this summer.

My hunch is we don’t have the dough to go after all our targets with the same intent. Looks like we started with Mount and until that is either sown up or written off we won’t go all-in on the next target. Meanwhile half of them sign for someone else.
 
Timing is a factor.

Signs are we aren’t going be spending a huge fortune this summer.

My hunch is we don’t have the dough to go after all our targets with the same intent. Looks like we started with Mount and until that is either sown up or written off we won’t go all-in on the next target. Meanwhile half of them sign for someone else.

Indeed. We’d already be at around £170m expenditure minimum, if we address our 3 priority positions.
 
I openly blame Captain Fat Feck for this.

If Maguire was gone, it would have been far easier to convince Kim of the prospect of plenty of game time.
Maguire has nothing to do with it. It's Varane. Nobody puts Varane as a backup. Or signs Kim to be a backup. It's just not a normal squad building thing for players of that quality to go somewhere that they aren't clearly starters. And players like that don't go somewhere where they will rotate. They will want to be key players. As will Varane.

It's a tricky situation for us, but realistically you get a younger CB who doesn't have the reputation/wage/current level that demands being a starter regularly. Someone to learn and cover and fully take over from Varane in a couple of years is what's realistic.
 
Maguire has nothing to do with it. It's Varane. Nobody puts Varane as a backup. Or signs Kim to be a backup. It's just not a normal squad building thing for players of that quality to go somewhere that they aren't clearly starters. And players like that don't go somewhere where they will rotate. They will want to be key players. As will Varane.

It's a tricky situation for us, but realistically you get a younger CB who doesn't have the reputation/wage/current level that demands being a starter regularly. Someone to learn and cover and fully take over from Varane in a couple of years is what's realistic.
That someone should be Sutalo.
 
Maguire has nothing to do with it. It's Varane. Nobody puts Varane as a backup. Or signs Kim to be a backup. It's just not a normal squad building thing for players of that quality to go somewhere that they aren't clearly starters. And players like that don't go somewhere where they will rotate. They will want to be key players. As will Varane.

It's a tricky situation for us, but realistically you get a younger CB who doesn't have the reputation/wage/current level that demands being a starter regularly. Someone to learn and cover and fully take over from Varane in a couple of years is what's realistic.

No, but Varane's injury record will inevitably open up opportunities for another CB to play solid minutes as a starter if Maguire had chosen to feck off. Besides, we will compete in 4 competitions again and thus should not expect Varane to survive another long season by being injury-free.
 
No, but Varane's injury record will inevitably open up opportunities for another CB to play solid minutes as a starter if Maguire had chosen to feck off. Besides, we will compete in 4 competitions again and thus should not expect Varane to survive another long season by being injury-free.
Lindelof is a good CB as he showed. It's just not a priority. Maguire is 4th choice CB. 3rd choice RCB. Varanes minutes can be managed and we can be perfectly fine anyway with Lindelof filling in. Yes he's injury prone, and it's a situation that will need addressing before long, but given our other priorities, we just have too much to address right now. And even still, you aren't signing a Varane caliber CB and telling him "hey, you are gonna rotate with Varane" or "you will compete for your position with Varane". Those caliber CBs go somewhere to be starters, key players, not competition or depth. So when you have a starter at that level who is injury prone, you have to make do with a Lindelof or a younger CB who might grow to take over.
 
For a club that is no longer at the top you have to move quicker to get such players. The way we are under the Glazers we will lose out to the better teams
 
Was sure we will not get him and I think it makes sense not to. Our starting CBs are Varane and Martinez, so any defender that we’ll buy would be a back up player. kim is not a back up player (ability and cost wise)
 
Was sure we will not get him and I think it makes sense not to. Our starting CBs are Varane and Martinez, so any defender that we’ll buy would be a back up player. kim is not a back up player (ability and cost wise)

And where do Matthijs de Ligt and Dayot Upamecano stand in this for Bayern? As far as anyone is concerned, I have yet to hear that either fell out with the manager.
 
And where do Matthijs de Ligt and Dayot Upamecano stand in this for Bayern? As far as anyone is concerned, I have yet to hear that either fell out with the manager.
Didn't Tuchel regularly play a back 5 at Chelsea? This signing gives him the opportunity to go back to that system. Upamecano also had an absolute mare against City in the CL, not sure Tuchel would trust him as part of a back 4 in the biggest games after that.
 
Spending £90m+ on Antony is the reason why we are not able to sign him. Sigh.
 
Not top of list of priorities but still gutted. Not many opportunities to sign a player of his ilk. Likely Bayern could guarantee more playing time immediately.
 
I accept the decision, I just don’t ever want to hear an excuse from ETH about problems at the back when Martinez/Varane can’t play.
 
He's going to be huge for them. One of those players we'll always look at and wonder what could have been.
 
I accept the decision, I just don’t ever want to hear an excuse from ETH about problems at the back when Martinez/Varane can’t play.

What an odd post. I don't remember ETH complaining this season when both Martinez and Varane were missing, he just got on with it with Lindelof, Shaw and then the oaf.

I think we are much better off buying a prospect who can be relied on in "easier" games to develop alongside the two top class CBs we have on the books, while allowing them to rest against lower opposition and probably in the cups. This will save money and keep it free to use on positions with a higher priority.
 
What an odd post. I don't remember ETH complaining this season when both Martinez and Varane were missing, he just got on with it with Lindelof, Shaw and then the oaf.

I think we are much better off buying a prospect who can be relied on in "easier" games to develop alongside the two top class CBs we have on the books, while allowing them to rest against lower opposition and probably in the cups. This will save money and keep it free to use on positions with a higher priority.
Don't we have anyone up and coming from the Academy?
 
No, but Varane's injury record will inevitably open up opportunities for another CB to play solid minutes as a starter if Maguire had chosen to feck off. Besides, we will compete in 4 competitions again and thus should not expect Varane to survive another long season by being injury-free.
Yeah we need someone to compete with Varane when he’s fit and cover him when he’s injured. That’s sensible squad building for any club with serious ambition when you have an injury prone CB and only Lindelof and Maguire to come in. If you have the dough. Which I assume we don’t.

Still think we will sign a CB as soon as we can afford one but, I suppose, after Mount, a keeper and goalscorer will be next, in that order.
 
Very good CB, would have made a big difference to us but always felt unrealistic that we were just going to wait for his contract and then be the only club in for him and take him. No surprise at all that a european giant convinced him to join them instead. Bayern should have a very good defence
 
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