Ipswich don't play like Man Utd did under Ole is what's been said. So clearly Ole as the boss dictated how we played, not the assistants.
Kieran McKenna | Close to signing long term deal to stay at Ipswich
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It was 5/2 when i posted
He's not a bad player by any means but not sure why he'd suddenly flip the script in the way you're suggesting, by all accounts we're looking to sign someone as first choice in front of him. Dias is much much more aggressive than him which is Maguire's big weakness when you think of his profile, De Ligt I don't think is that similar apart from that they are both tall and not that fast.
This is a good point.
Half of the squad from that time is gone. Who's to say it's the same players who are here now?
It's pretty obvious that Ole isn't really keen on any managerial job and if there's no motivation, why would he take it? He doesn't need to prove himself for casuals who think he's incompetent. If he feels like there's a position for him that he truly wants, then I'm certain he'll be back in management.
My bitching was about how both Carrick and McKenna succeeded with a very similar approach to Ole's United after leaving the club, but the general consensus is going to be way different for them than it was for Ole.
If the powers that be deem him ready I'm happy to go along with that as I would wager they have a better sense than either you or I.
The problem was ETH didn’t follow through on implementing the style of play we seen at Ajax that made him such a popular appointment.
I'm not "jealous" of any coach who will coach us next season, especially since the expectations will be sky-high. There is a huge difference between coaching a weaker team without pressure in lower leagues and coaching a club from the Premier League, especially Manchester United. He felt some of this pressure when he was coaching, imagine what will happen when he is in front as a manager? It's a completely different pressure. I don't think he's ready to coach us right now, it's too early.
After we played badly all season and we probably won't make it to Europe (we'll find out in the coming days), I don't see who will have patience with us, especially the fans. I remember when Eric arrived there was a promise (at least from what I saw online) that he would be given time to build a project, but in the end, he would be thrown out after two years. What do you think will happen to an insufficiently experienced coach, who has already coached us, and let's not forget - we didn't look good under him either. We will be here again 2 years from now, maybe even before that.
After we played badly all season and we probably won't make it to Europe (we'll find out in the coming days), I don't see who will have patience with us, especially the fans. I remember when Eric arrived there was a promise (at least from what I saw online) that he would be given time to build a project, but in the end, he would be thrown out after two years. What do you think will happen to an insufficiently experienced coach, who has already coached us, and let's not forget - we didn't look good under him either. We will be here again 2 years from now, maybe even before that.
Not just for ETH, we see them for basically every signing as well. Sancho, Anthony, Mount and Onana come to mind. In fairness to Dave, he doesn't really talk much about how McKenna would operate at United, but more about how he's been successful doing what he's doing at Ipswich. The video title is properly click-bait though.
McKenna, Carrick and Eric Ramsey (remember him and how useless he was supposed to be? 2nd place in the Western Conference with Minnesota United in the MLS, 2 games in hand as well) are all seeing success having now been separated from Ole, the pattern is clear.
Pochettino is a massive yawn, sacked from Tottenham and Chelsea already. De Zerbi isn’t a bad option but haven’t been that impressed with his set ups and substitutions this season, a lot of unnecessary tinkering. By your logic you wouldn’t have wanted De Zerbi either coming straight from Shakhtar, but 2 seasons in the PL, the last being average, and he’s deemed ready? It’s not as essential as you think, and if it doesn’t end up working out, we move on, that’s the nature of it.
Technically he wasn't sacked by Chelsea. He didn't like the direction the club was taking and they weren't for budging. Pretty amicable really.
I’d be absolutely amazed if we gave him the job. Trusting one of the biggest jobs in sport to someone who’s been a manager for two years, has no reputation to fall back on and has never managed top players before.
He’d have to be a generational manager to crack this.
He’d have to be a generational manager to crack this.
I don’t think we need tiki taka, as long as we are capable of being comfortable in possession and out of it.
Pool never played pure possession ball under Klopp but were lethal in the way they overwhelmed the opponents with their scary attack in their prime. If McKenna can have us play close to that, I will be over the moon.
In fact, we were never pure possession under prime SAF either. Think as long as we can be comfortable in possession and lethal in attack and speed of attacks, we will be fine.
Back on point, do you think he has improved your players at an individual level and is your team more than the sum of individual parts? If so, he maybe worth a shot (a long shot mind it).
Yep
Thank you. It’s lunacy
The real issue this season is that ETH could not find the right formula to produce a coherent unit. I would expect McKenna can create a unit with those players so that the team plays greater than 11.
Also, I can't imagine we'd completely change our plans based on Chelsea and Brighton trying to appoint him. I honestly think Tuchel has been wrapped up post his exit in the CL and will actually give INEOS massive kudos if they were that decisive.
So true. Players cannot execute it so who gives a feck
We can't let McKenna take our secrets over to Chelsea. Get on it Ineos.
I refuse to believe that between dozen available managers we would be that stupid and go for him. Even Murtough wouldn't be that stupid.
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If those players are still at the club, and they decide to leave because of this, then that would be a huge win for the club.
Yes, it would be truly terrible if Chelsea copied the tactics of Mourinho, Solskjaer and Rangnick!
If ETH is sacked i think i want McKenna. At least he has a connection with the club, up and coming, and there's some soul to it. Appointing Tuchel makes sense but is soulless, he's a cup manager and we're not even in the Europe next year.
also, considering Ole is considered completely inept as a manager on here our league finishes weren't that bad at all (we'd be pretty happy for back to back top four finishes from here)
it's entirely possible we'd have done a lot worse without McKenna, but it's impossible to know
the idea that he isn't a good tactician because of how we played under Ole is reaching to say the least, especially considering how he has performed since he left
McKenna should come and bring Ole as his assistant….
We have very talented coach team then. The Glazers made the biggest mistake to sack Ole and abandoned the project. It’s crystal clear now. New project under ETH now comes to the end. The good thing is that the Glazers won’t be able to derail the club by their series of ridiculous bad decisions.
Yep could be. Good post.
Teasing Chelsea and Brighton to leave them in a mess for next season, mindfecking 101
His work in getting two successive promotions is absolutely fantastic. I guess what i'm slightly concerned with is the jump between that and being United manager, and eventually getting a team together that can challenge for the league and champions league. I think a lot of managers could get top 4 with this United squad, playing to it's strengths, and it wouldn't surprise me if we got top 4 next season, but it's what comes after that that is always the big problem. The team tries to evolve and it fails miserably.
Also, hearing conflicting information about his style with Ipswich. He's worked under Jose and Ole...he's is his own man obviously, but if we play anything like those two then I can't say i'm super excited. Other people say he plays a much better football which is a relief.
Also, hearing conflicting information about his style with Ipswich. He's worked under Jose and Ole...he's is his own man obviously, but if we play anything like those two then I can't say i'm super excited. Other people say he plays a much better football which is a relief.
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Yeah he knows all of those players plus the likes of Varane, Sancho and Van De Beek who are likely leaving too.
As much as it feels too soon, that is a definite positive in all of this . There shouldn't need to be any assessing of the squad as he already knows most of the players that should be out of chances.
Yeah he knows all of those players plus the likes of Varane, Sancho and Van De Beek who are likely leaving too.
As much as it feels too soon, that is a definite positive in all of this . There shouldn't need to be any assessing of the squad as he already knows most of the players that should be out of chances.
You love to see it. Especially as it seemed like it was beginning to click for Poch and that young Chelsea side. You can always rely on Boehly to balls it up though.