Khvicha Kvaratskhelia | PSG agree 70m deal

Id happily have him here but i think he is a tad overrated.

* He isnt great at using his left foot much, more ambidextrity than Antony for sure but he is very heavily using his right foot.

* He plays like an IF and isnt really much of a creator as an LAM, You usually see him take shots than really create chances for a central striker. Again predominantly from his right foot. His passing stats are quite bad to average for such a high deemed player.

People have this assumption that he is some fast dribbling version of Juan Mata when he is much more of a direct Inverted Forward.

Id gladly have him here because we dont have anyone on the left - but im not suprised if we dont go for him because his profile is different to what Amorim wants to use.
 
SER19 said:
Players who go to PSG are bullets dodged. Especially one with his choice of clubs. I don't want to hear about how great Paris can be, from a footballing point of view its about as close as you can get in Europe to moving to a saudi club. You look at somebody like veratti who spent his career there - won 30 trophies and nobody really gives a shit or remembers him beyond his national team. Its a wasteland and speaks to a lack of ambition.
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PSG supporters treat Verratti like a god; I like to think that their and the opinion of his peers and of course the people around him are what matters to a player. I don't think he needs Reddits (or Redcafes) Certificate of Authority to tell him what his career choices should have been. To expand, leagues around Europe are in such a state that it's mostly a few privileged clubs (Bayern, RM&Barca, PSG) repressing the rest. Difference between these 3 is exposure and european success. There's nothing competitive in joining Bayern or Real (La Liga is overrated and has been declining for a decade), but people don't pull the $$$ card because French clubs simply play their choking part in Europe too well (2 wins in 15 finals). Disrespect for that is warranted but the delivery I find is lacking, with people just rehashing the same tropes they've picked up on social media: oil money, farmers league etc.

The only exceptions are Italy (where you have big clubs with big traditions but no one stands out financially) and England, which has become a playground for the obscenely rich so you've a bigger concentration of talent than ever (still mostly condensed in like, top 8 clubs). Yet at the end of the day whenever PSG buys a player it's all a big echo chamber going brrrr, qatar bad, no ambition booo. I'll be evil and make an assumption that you don't watch Ligue 1. Do you think it's all plumbers and firemen playing over there? It's a good league, 5th best in Europe (not a large margin behind Bundesliga at 4th), and all it really needs is a second club to challenge PSG. All this "graveyard for this and that" is such a tiring trope man, mostly because it's usually based on what someone else wrote somewhere, and not your own experience in the matter.
 
He'd be a sensation in the PL at any of the big clubs.
Pretty sure the barcodes would be in for him if Gordon wasn't doing so well.
His skill, strength and speed are a rare combination.
Shame he's gonna waste his time in Paris.
 
Shaw's Shank Redemption said:
Id gladly have him here because we dont have anyone on the left - but im not suprised if we dont go for him because his profile is different to what Amorim wants to use.
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How did we go from too many players on the left (Martial, Rashford, Sanchez, Dan James, Sancho, Garnacho...) to none on the left anyway :lol:
 
red.knight said:
Years of overspending and handing out silly contracts to average performers have finally caught up with us. Now we need to focus on finding unknown players and signing them at reasonable prices. Signing talents like Kvara and Florian Wirtz sounds like is a pipe dream for United at this stage. The rebuild under Amorim is going to be a slow and lengthy process. so grab your popcorn.
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Yeah I remember many of us saying this overspending could come back to bite us and that's now happened
 
Garethw said:
Exactly a prospect. Not a bonafide world class player.
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We've very rarely signed bonafide world class players anyway. Not many clubs do sign these type of players to be honest. I'd argue that Galactico era Madrid are the only team to really do it.
 
Kostov said:
I wonder all the idiots who were parroting, "it's not your money why do you care how much a player costs", have to say about our financial position.
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Yeah all of them are looking silly now, exactly why we have no choice but to watch him join PSG
 
I'm not devastated about missing out on him to be honest. As great and exciting as he is, I can't help but feel that spending 70 million on a left-forward when we have Bruno and Garnacho there is questionable when we have no decent options at left-back, are an injury to Ugarte or Mainoo away from being permanently reliant on Casemiro or Eriksen, and two strikers who aren't ready to lead the line amongst a host of other issues in the squad.

I'm not at all disagreeing with anyone frustrated by the money we've been spaffing away over the past decade, and in isolation I think the price tag we're talking about here is pretty reasonable for a player of Kvaratskhelia's ability, but I think if we're going to spend big on anyone now or in the summer it should really be one of Osimhen or Gyokeres.
 
Mmm-Qatarian said:
I'm not devastated about missing out on him to be honest. As great and exciting as he is, I can't help but feel that spending 70 million on a left-forward when we have Bruno and Garnacho there is questionable when we have no decent options at left-back, are an injury to Ugarte or Mainoo away from being permanently reliant on Casemiro or Eriksen, and two strikers who aren't ready to lead the line amongst a host of other issues in the squad.

I'm not at all disagreeing with anyone frustrated by the money we've been spaffing away over the past decade, and in isolation I think the price tag we're talking about here is pretty reasonable for a player of Kvaratskhelia's ability, but I think if we're going to spend big on anyone now or in the summer it should really be one of Osimhen or Gyokeres.
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Yeah like you say it's a very fair fee for him, however we do have bigger issues at LWB, cover for Ugarte/Mainoo and a proven goalscorer too
 
couldn’t we just get one of those pay day loans and get him in?
 
Mmm-Qatarian said:
I'm not devastated about missing out on him to be honest. As great and exciting as he is, I can't help but feel that spending 70 million on a left-forward when we have Bruno and Garnacho there is questionable when we have no decent options at left-back, are an injury to Ugarte or Mainoo away from being permanently reliant on Casemiro or Eriksen, and two strikers who aren't ready to lead the line amongst a host of other issues in the squad.

I'm not at all disagreeing with anyone frustrated by the money we've been spaffing away over the past decade, and in isolation I think the price tag we're talking about here is pretty reasonable for a player of Kvaratskhelia's ability, but I think if we're going to spend big on anyone now or in the summer it should really be one of Osimhen or Gyokeres.
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We are very thin in the winger department. Apart from very exciting Amad and out of form Garnacho we are absolute pants. This guy Kvara would absolutely change the face of our attack, we could play Evans at LWB and still be 10 times better than what we have right now.
 
Is he going to be the first domino this window?

I think PSG are going to be a solid club to buy from. Hopefully we can get Mendes from them.
Barcola and Lee would be interesting if Kvaratskhelia reduces their roles.
 
Kostov said:
We are very thin in the winger department. Apart from very exciting Amad and out of form Garnacho we are absolute pants. This guy Kvara would absolutely change the face of our attack, we could play Evans at LWB and still be 10 times better than what we have right now.
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We don’t even play wingers anymore. We’re playing 2 no 10. Our wing players are wingbacks now and Kvara cannot play wingbacks. We have Bruno and Amad playing in this no 10 role with Garnacho as our squad depth or backup. We still have Mount too even though he’s injury prone.

On the other hand, we have zero LWB and we don’t have a RWB that we can rely on as regular RWB because Mazraoui is inverted full back not wingback. Our striker options are very bad. We only have Mainoo and Ugarte as midfield options because neither Eriksen and Casemiro have the leg to play on this high intensity system.

Basically to summarise it in one sentence. We have much thinner in the wingback and midfield department than the no 10 department, while our striker options are below average quality and not as bad as having Bruno and Amad as our no 10.
 
JE-365 said:
We don’t even play wingers anymore. We’re playing 2 no 10. Our wing players are wingbacks now and Kvara cannot play wingbacks. We have Bruno and Amad playing in this no 10 role with Garnacho as our squad depth or backup. We still have Mount too even though he’s injury prone.

On the other hand, we have zero LWB and we don’t have a RWB that we can rely on as regular RWB because Mazraoui is inverted full back not wingback. Our striker options are very bad. We only have Mainoo and Ugarte as midfield options because neither Eriksen and Casemiro have the leg to play on this high intensity system.

Basically to summarise it in one sentence. We have much thinner in the wingback and midfield department than the no 10 department, while our striker options are below average quality and not as bad as having Bruno and Amad as our no 10.
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We are still experimenting and nobody knows how are we going to play next season or come May. Amad is neither a wingback nor a number 10 and has played both. Wingers or players like Kvara capable of playing as one and with his dribbling ability you can always use whether will that be in a current system or you twitch something or adapt the formation. Yes we also need other reinforcements, but i think with our current attacking options and you have a player of his quality on the move, it’s criminal if we can’t get involved to make the transfer.
 
Kostov said:
We are still experimenting and nobody knows how are we going to play next season or come May. Amad is neither a wingback nor a number 10 and has played both. Wingers or players like Kvara capable of playing as one and with his dribbling ability you can always use whether will that be in a current system or you twitch something or adapt the formation. Yes we also need other reinforcements, but i think with our current attacking options and you have a player of his quality on the move, it’s criminal if we can’t get involved to make the transfer.
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80m transfer fees is big money to spend on and considered as premium fees for us. I wouldn’t dare to spend big bucks without proper plan especially if we end up experimenting him and ignoring other positions. If we’re to spend that premium transfer fees on a player again, better make sure either we have the budget to spend on him, striker, wingbacks, and midfielder or else if we have to sacrifice striker position or the wingbacks position to get him means he better be like Suarez signing at Liverpool, which transforming the team single handly.
 
He is 99.999% going to PSG.

We are wasting time discussing his transfer to us. It was probably never in the cards, to begin with
 
Why would they sell their main player in January? I know Conte has said it was a bolt from the blue, but could it also be related to his recent injury (low-grade MCL sprain in his right knee)?

Could that lead to a more serious injury?
 
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gulli_G said:
Why would they sell their main player in January? I know Conte has said it was a boot from the blue, but could it also be related to his recent injury (low-grade MCL sprain in his right knee)?

Could that lead to a more serious injury?
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They've been burned with Osimhen, don't want to risk another similar case. Kvara has been pushing to leave since the summer

The fact they kept winning in his absence(injury) with Neres looking really good - arguably better than Kvara had - likely helped, too. They'll have 80m to play with too and still need a defender
 
He was very good in his first half season with naples, prob taking advantage of the fact that no one knew him as a player. When opponents realized how dangerous he could be, his level dropped a lot. Remains a decent player though
 
Luca[4] said:
He was very good in his first half season with naples, prob taking advantage of the fact that no one knew him as a player. When opponents realized how dangerous he could be, his level dropped a lot. Remains a decent player though
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Yep. It's what I've been saying. Neres has been better this season than him. His first 6 months at Napoli has really carried his reputation.

Still a good player but he won't be world class
 
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There was always going to be ramifications of stupidly poor spending for last decade or so. We are simply not in a position to be making these type of transfers at the moment.

PSR is a legit issue, our biggest priority should be to get rid of Rashford and Casemiro. One isn't playing, other when playing isn't doing much. These two will free up north of £700,000 a week between themselves.
 
DatIrishFella said:
We were all 99.999% sure Leny Yoro was going to Madrid, also.
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Yoro was more like 80% Real, to be fair, but I understand your point. I think this case is quite different and Kvara to PSG is all but done deal
 
AkaAkuma said:
Is he going to be the first domino this window?

I think PSG are going to be a solid club to buy from. Hopefully we can get Mendes from them.
Barcola and Lee would be interesting if Kvaratskhelia reduces their roles.
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They also have the young Desire Doue who plays at LW (he’s very versatile though and can play as an 8, 10 or RW too). He’s someone I really wanted for us last summer who would be a super interesting prospect at AM in this system.
 
daba said:
They also have the young Desire Doue who plays at LW (he’s very versatile though and can play as an 8, 10 or RW too). He’s someone I really wanted for us last summer who would be a super interesting prospect at AM in this system.
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I'm with you on this notion. He looks a really good aggressive ball carrier. I do wonder what his ilk would bring to an Amorim team. I guess it would play out like Rogers at Villa.
 
daba said:
They also have the young Desire Doue who plays at LW (he’s very versatile though and can play as an 8, 10 or RW too). He’s someone I really wanted for us last summer who would be a super interesting prospect at AM in this system.
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Vitinha too, but wouldnt want to piss them off too much.
 
So I tuned in to the Napoli vs Hellas Veronas game for a bit and the commentator mentioned that Kvara is on the same wage he was when arriving, which is €40,000 a week :eek:
It was never upped, even after the League-winning season. Napoli belatedly put an offer down after Kvara was already pissed off with them and looking for the exit door?

You would think clubs have been tapping him up this entire time with him being on such derisory wages. How has he got to 2025, some 3years later, still on such a terrible package?
 
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