Kevin Trapp

Sparky Rhiwabon said:
No keeper that could possibly compete with De Gea for his place would cost less than that, not where we’re concerned
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If we're looking at older stopgap goalkeepers they would. Teams are just taking the piss with unrealistic valuations of their players
 
CM10 said:
If we're looking at older stopgap goalkeepers they would. Teams are just taking the piss with unrealistic valuations of their players
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Yeah possibly, Nick Pope would have been a decent signing in that vein.
 
CM10 said:
If we're looking at older stopgap goalkeepers they would. Teams are just taking the piss with unrealistic valuations of their players
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Frankfurt don't have a second keeper on a similar level, so they would also need to sign a replacement now. So of course they don't ask for a realistic valuation for Trapp, but for the money they need to sign their preferred new first choice keeper. It's what happens when you wait to long.
 
Doesn't sound like an upgrade on De Gea if we want a backup good with their feet and able to command the area too
 
unplayable said:
Interesting. Who could the other goalkeeper be?
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Maybe another Bundesliga keeper. Or maybe Dubravka who’s not involved for Newcastle tonight in their league cup game and is someone we’ve been linked with before.
 
Zoo said:
Maybe another Bundesliga keeper. Or maybe Dubravka who’s not involved for Newcastle tonight in their league cup game and is someone we’ve been linked with before.
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You nailed it.
 
Dubravka's known for his footwork and anticipation, which might work out on balance even taking into account the step-down in making difficult saves, but is this still too reminiscent of Claudio Bravo? There's a reason Newcastle went after Pope, much weaker in possession and a fine shot stopper but not a 'worldie' to the extent that you'd necessarily jettison any other keeper for him....
 
From a Bundesliga point of view it seems weird to read about Sommer and Trapp when Stefan Ortega Moreno was available for a free this summer. He's got leadership, is really sharp with his sweeping and very good with the ball.
Never played anything bigger than Bielefeld, but then again he didn't cost any fee either.
Trapp and Sommer just seem unimaginative, they have somewhat big names and the occasional huge game, but they aren't top tier keepers.
 
Mickeza said:
Very difficult the get the starter of a CL club when De Gea is also here so not surprised by this news even if the usual suspects will spin it into some epic failure.
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While it's not an epic failure that Trapp doesn't come to United, it is indeed a failure that United seems to have started looking for a new keeper this late.
 
stefan92 said:
While it's not an epic failure that Trapp doesn't come to United, it is indeed a failure that United seems to have started looking for a new keeper this late.
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It seems very reactionary after the dodgy performances of De Gea. Something ETH (and everyone else) could've known way before the season started. Maybe it's really a case of the Glazers loosening the purse strings after Brighton and Brentford
 
stefan92 said:
While it's not an epic failure that Trapp doesn't come to United, it is indeed a failure that United seems to have started looking for a new keeper this late.
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We’ve spent 190m net so far when Antony arrives plus we still need a CM, ST and RB. It’s not an easy task to find a keeper who is willing to leave and come compete with De Gea and potentially usurp him all for a budget of about 10m max. This is a very difficult ask - Trapp and sommer were both well identified but have have said no. The failure for me is not selling Henderson to raise funds for a new top keeper.
 
Mickeza said:
Very difficult the get the starter of a CL club when De Gea is also here so not surprised by this news even if the usual suspects will spin it into some epic failure.
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The manager got the early call to very publicly back De Gea completely wrong. He’s impressed me a lot more in recent weeks, but the impact of that decision will be felt a lot this season.
 
hellhunter said:
It seems very reactionary after the dodgy performances of De Gea. Something ETH (and everyone else) could've known way before the season started. Maybe it's really a case of the Glazers loosening the purse strings after Brighton and Brentford
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I'm as big of a critic as De Gea as anyone and would have replaced him long ago but I think there are a couple of potential reasons we have looked at a player to genuinely come in and play so late.

Firstly, and perhaps the most obvious, Ten Hag possibly wasn't aware just how poor De Gea is at certain aspects. Over the summer when it was brought up, the consensus on here seemed to be that De Gea could be taught to be better with his feet and aerially, perhaps after a few weeks he's now seen that he's not coachable to do what he wants him to do.

Second, purely speculative and more concerning, Ten Hag in his interview with Neville/Carragher said that the plan against Brentford was to play long balls over their press and that the players just didn't do it. De Gea was the main culprit of that.
 
We had a Portuguese keeper in the reserves at one point who was considered quite good with his feet, what happened to him?
 
stefan92 said:
While it's not an epic failure that Trapp doesn't come to United, it is indeed a failure that United seems to have started looking for a new keeper this late.
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I mean, not really. There's other priorities in the team / squad to address as first. As much as DeGea and the goalkeeping position probably needs looking at, there were / are definitely more urgent areas of the squad that need sorting before that.

What you're seeing is probably the first steps at replacing DeGea but he still has a season or 2 in him yet.
 
Mickeza said:
We’ve spent 190m net so far when Antony arrives plus we still need a CM, ST and RB. It’s not an easy task to find a keeper who is willing to leave and come compete with De Gea and potentially usurp him all for a budget of about 10m max. This is a very difficult ask - Trapp and sommer were both well identified but have have said no. The failure for me is not selling Henderson to raise funds for a new top keeper.
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I mostly agree, especially on Henderson. The keeper position just looks like a mess now and could definitely have been handled better if United had acted earlier in a different way. Selling Henderson would have given more budget and more time would have made better deals possible, as the selling club could sort out their keeper position without getting in trouble.
 
CM10 said:
If we're looking at older stopgap goalkeepers they would. Teams are just taking the piss with unrealistic valuations of their players
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They aren't taking the piss, they are pricing them out simply because they don't wanna lose them.
 
Salford_Red83 said:
I mean, not really. There's other priorities in the team / squad to address as first. As much as DeGea and the goalkeeping position probably needs looking at, there were / are definitely more urgent areas of the squad that need sorting before that.

What you're seeing is probably the first steps at replacing DeGea but he still has a season or 2 in him yet.
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De Gea has been with the club for ages, no one can claim to be surprised about his strengths or weaknesses. I think a well run club would figure out before the season whether they need to act or not.
Instead the club seem to have come up with the idea to sign someone well after the season started, the bargains are already off the market and now they are trying to overpay for mediocrity. Luckily for United Frankfurt and Trapp saved them from themselves, but even if they sign someone more reasonably priced now they will have to stick with de Gea after having undermined him in public.
 
stefan92 said:
While it's not an epic failure that Trapp doesn't come to United, it is indeed a failure that United seems to have started looking for a new keeper this late.
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hellhunter said:
It seems very reactionary after the dodgy performances of De Gea. Something ETH (and everyone else) could've known way before the season started. Maybe it's really a case of the Glazers loosening the purse strings after Brighton and Brentford
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Especially after Ortega joined the neighbours City on a free earlier in the window, who'd have been an easy candidate to get with some potential to perform as a contender to De Gea.
 
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