Only way you can pick Pogba over KDB is because of his injury record, other than that, KDB is streets ahead of Pogba.
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Only way you can pick Pogba over KDB is because of his injury record, other than that, KDB is streets ahead of Pogba.
Basically, David Beckham Mark 2 sometimes.
Yea, I don’t get why people are being so sensitive and literal. I get the point you’re making and agree.
KDB’s peak in the EPL is up there with the all time greats. He’s out of this fecking world honestly - world class label doesn’t even do him justice when he’s bossing it on the pitch. Untouchable.
Not sure for how many time he can stays injury free
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Well we all do, in a manner of speaking: win the World Cup.
What?
He was their player of the season the season before last. He's easily one of the best Midfielders to have played in this league. One of the best players, in fact.
Aye, he's extraordinarily good. It's hard to compare him with the more defensively-orientated Keane and Vieira, but I'm unconvinced that any of the great PL-era attacking midfielders like young Scholes, Gerrard, Lampard and Toure were better than him.
He was fantastic today.
He is a great player, but so were many before him.
scholes is a different type or footballer. I’d take him over Gerrard and Lampard but
Peak Gerrard and Lampard were better than De Bruyne. 2013/14 Toure too.
The ironic thing is, the one sale Jose got right (Lukaku) is the one he reunited with
From our perspective it stings but the important thing is we've learned our lesson and now we're in a similar position re having seriously talented youngsters on our books we have appointed the appropriate coaching staff to nurture them.
Yeah, i'd easily take him over Gerrard, Lampard and Toure. Think he's that good. The only reason i didn't say Scholes was probably due to bias!
He's an exceptional player, tbh. Would kill for him on our team. I hate City, but i really like De Bruyne. Just one of those players you can't help but admire.
We are witnessing peak KDB right now, he wont get better than this. If he keeps injury free, he can have a lot of great years ahead of him
To match Scholes he needs to be this good in two different midfield roles, though. At different points in his career, Scholes was world class as a goalscoring attacking midfielder and as a tempo-setting regista type.
Nope, thats because you can only play one of those roles at any given time.
What a load of rubbish.
So are we saying he has to play two different roles, rather than excel at one throughout his career?
Dont know how you can say that with that much confidence, sure, they were all great players but then again so is he.
He’s better than Lampard. Lampard was a great goal scoring midfielder but he didn’t control the game like De Bruyne does.
Lovely player.
And while plenty excel in one position, a player who can change to a different position entirely later in his career and go on to excel at that too is something very special.
To match Scholes, as I said... yes.
Different class to what we have, that cross for sterlings header was perfect, he seems so calm on the ball and has power to run with the ball at his feet unlike say Eriksen, he is a assist machine though his strike on goal is rash at times.
So are we saying he can’t be as good as John O’Shea - as he’s not played in 7 different positions?
Ridiculous.
Nope, just makes him versatile. You can't perform those roles at the same time. If hes better at his current role than scholes ever was in any role then he'll rightfully be considered a better player.
He's a fabulous player but he greatly benefits from peps system.
Absolutely majestic player. If not the best player in the league, then certainly the best midfielder. Not going to go in for the comparisons, but he's certainly right up there with Scholes, Gerrard, Lampard, Viera et al.
The thing is he barely plays in midfield. He's more of a number 10 clear attacking midfielder.
He was majestic for Wolfsburg too and arguably city’s best player in Pellegrini’s last season.
For what it’s worth, I’d personally take KDB over all EPL CMs - past and present. And that’s no disrespect to them either...I watched the Scholes/Gerrard’s/etc growing up.
His offensive capability, creativity, and relentless motor to never stop is just a level above. I was gutted when City got him and United didn’t even attempt to make a proper attempt at him. KDB’s ability to play attacking mid as well as inside winger with his shiftiness combined with his talents makes him untouchable at times. Not to mention he tracks back and drops deep to retrieve the ball as well as presses. Literally does it all at the highest level I’ve ever seen. The way he’s able to singlehandedly dictate the flow of games so regularly says it all really. And on top play so consistently and with as much pure footballing passion as he does.
Simply put, he’s incredible to say the least.
His offensive capability, creativity, and relentless motor to never stop is just a level above. I was gutted when City got him and United didn’t even attempt to make a proper attempt at him. KDB’s ability to play attacking mid as well as inside winger with his shiftiness combined with his talents makes him untouchable at times. Not to mention he tracks back and drops deep to retrieve the ball as well as presses. Literally does it all at the highest level I’ve ever seen. The way he’s able to singlehandedly dictate the flow of games so regularly says it all really. And on top play so consistently and with as much pure footballing passion as he does.
Simply put, he’s incredible to say the least.
They all do and thats the point of having a trully great coach like Pep and Klopp. So that the said coach can get the absolute maximum of the group of players' talents. Its also the reason why delving into hyperbole with players of this era is rather pointless.
They run a rotating system where he ends up in all those positions in equal measure.
He is very good for City but is always in Hazard's shadow for Belgium. Needs to step up for the national team.
Pep has helped him improve(another example of a manager being so vital for player development), but his own application of his talent is incredible.
I think Pogba might have more 'natural talent', but what good does it do him, when he doesn't apply it as consistently nor to the maximum like De Bruyne does.
I think Pogba might have more 'natural talent', but what good does it do him, when he doesn't apply it as consistently nor to the maximum like De Bruyne does.
He's fanstastic but I would take Scholes, Keane and Vieira ahead of him. They were complete central midfielders. I'd take KDB ahead of Gerrard and Lampard though. As an attacking midfielder he's a force of nature.
Pogba does have more natural talent. KDB's passing is better but Pogba is more talented in terms of strength, pace, dribbling etc
Where KDB wins is his football IQ. He has the ability to make better decisions in general and particularly in short spans of time when it's really a challenge. Pogba is worse in those split second moments I reckon. I suppose one could argue that this too is a natural talent.
Certainly makes David Silva's retiring at the end of season less worrisome for them
I thought he was just leaving City and not retiring.
He's great but he's not a CM. I think he is sort of a false winger or false AM if that makes any sense.
Agreed. He spends 90% of the game super high up the pitch so he is rarely even doing what a cm does.
Like he has never played in the position pogba played last week against Chelsea that's actual cm. He plays more of lingards area.
Why the Caf can be a hard place to be sometimes.
Not a chance Pogba is the best player in the PL, for one. And based on PL form, KDB is streets ahead of him.
Pogba wouldn’t get in City’s starting 11; KDB would transform ours. That’s the difference.