His injuries are a bit of a worry, but he's a good player. Certainly need a player like him in the side.
Kalvin Phillips
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I liked him in the Euros and to be honest I would take him, Neves etc over both Fred and McTominay everyday. Actually signing them both would be good in my opinion as Rice is going to be ridiculously over priced.
Given a 5 match ban for crimes against fashion
It's an upgrade on this
He looks like Joey wearing all Chandlers clothes. Rashford and Lingard though…good lord!
It's an upgrade on this
Hard disagree. JLingz and Rashy is bad but wtf is Phillips wearing there? That's absolutely ridiculous
Kalvin Phillips outfit is a clear downgrade on that?!?It's an upgrade on this
I don't think his role in getting England to the final of a major tournament can be underplayed and I do rate him highly.
However, it is another of those "ehhh" signings we seem to make a lot of, and Liverpool made a lot of when they were shite too.
To title challenge, like they should be, United need better.
However, it is another of those "ehhh" signings we seem to make a lot of, and Liverpool made a lot of when they were shite too.
To title challenge, like they should be, United need better.
Not good enough in my opinion. I just don't see it. A good player but nothing that suggests to me he should be playing for a side aiming to build a side that competes at the top end of the league. Expensive for what you get. Like Rice in that way, but I would much rather have Rice for a large fee than Phillips.
It just feels like a bit of a nothing move, like yeah he’s better than our current midfielders but he’s not that much better to the point where he’s going to massively improve us. The market for defensive midfielders just seems dire at the moment, can’t really think of any good ones outside Tchouameni who is almost certainly off to Real.
Liverpool made signings like Henderson, Wijnaldum, Milner, Mane, Robertson, Van Dijk etc from the EPL and they were considered underwhelming signings by many fans.
But this is the case for me.
An English player dominating a different league is looked at in a different way compared to English players in the PL.
AWB and Maguire didn't fail because of being English - they failed because Ole bought rubbish players with individualised abilities.
And its because they failed/failing that their transfer cost is looked down upon.
Just because we f*kd up with Ole and players like Maguire and AWB - we can't put aside a whole country worth of players.
They also signed Lallana, Lovren, Downing, Shaqiri, Clyne, Ings, Mignolet or Benteke and they were underwhelming.
I really like Philips he would be a great signing
Probably have to overpay for him which would be the problem.
Probably have to overpay for him which would be the problem.
Forshaw is better than him. Another easily pressed midfielder who needs space.
Were they signed under Klopp?They also signed Lallana, Lovren, Downing, Shaqiri, Clyne, Ings, Mignolet or Benteke and they were underwhelming.
Seeing Henderson, I didn't thought that it was the context of your list.
Henderson and Milner predate Klopp but they came to prominence under the German.
But my point was that the likes of Mane, Wijnaldum, Van Dijk etc were rubbished on here by many fans. But they were signed with a clear concise idea on how they would be utilised by a coach who had a clear identity which he was looking to implement. And I think Phillips would potentially be a similar fit for ten Hag for similar reasons.
I don't think there would be direct talks between the clubs at this stage.
This 100%. These signings worked and were an overwhelming success because they were players who suited Klopp’s tactics and style of play. If Phillips is a player that Ten Hag believes can anchor his midfield then we need to back the new manager.
As I said I didn't thought that it was the context. I'm not arguing against it.
It doesn’t mean talks haven’t started with agents and intermediaries. Luckhurst has been on the ball with this the last few years.
No worries mate.
My eyes.Dresses like this - do not want
Don't rate and don't want. Massively overrated because he's gotten some time in Southgate's 8-2 formation. There's better out there that would be cheaper too.
We already have James Garner who also gets up and down between both boxes and can spray the ball around well. Don’t see the point in this signing.
He would be a very good signing for us and potentially even better than Declan Rice in Ten Hag's system, where the aim will be to play the game in the opponents half with counter pressing capabilities.
Jimmy Garner is potentially a very good player but wouldn't provide anywhere close to the physicality/intensity of Phillips right now.
Jimmy Garner is potentially a very good player but wouldn't provide anywhere close to the physicality/intensity of Phillips right now.
What's his best position? Isn't he a box to box midfielder? Just don't want another situation where we take a b2b and shoe horn him as DM.
He's comfortable playing as both a #6 and #8. Bielsa developed his (Phillips') game as a deep lying playmaker, so I can see why ten Hag would potentially like him.
What about his injury record? I’m agreeing he’d be an upgrade on what we have but I don’t think that would be hard, Fred aside
I remember most on here didn't want Konate due to his injuries but its Varane that has missed more games through injury.
But it's only this season that Phillips has been injured for a period of time. I don't recall him missing many games through injury in prior seasons.
I can't see this happening unless Leeds get relegated AND we're the only top team that is interested.
Phillips and Fred would be one hell of a pressing midfield though. They attempted the 2nd and 3rd most presses out of all midfielders in the league last season, with only Allan being ahead of them.
Phillips and Fred would be one hell of a pressing midfield though. They attempted the 2nd and 3rd most presses out of all midfielders in the league last season, with only Allan being ahead of them.
I bet neither of these knobbers actually wears specs in real life.It's an upgrade on this
People are talking such rubbish in here saying he’s not good enough.
I’ve watched Phillips for a few seasons now as I watch nearly every Leeds game because my dad supports them and I’m very confident in saying Phillips is easily good enough for us, he’s a proper DM we’ve been missing for years. He would be a fantastic signing.
I’ve watched Phillips for a few seasons now as I watch nearly every Leeds game because my dad supports them and I’m very confident in saying Phillips is easily good enough for us, he’s a proper DM we’ve been missing for years. He would be a fantastic signing.
It might be fair but no way Leeds sell one of their most important players, an England starter no less, to one of their most bitter rivals for £40million, not unless they get relegated.
Its the same with West Ham and Rice. You could argue he shouldn't be worth more than £50-60million, but we'd be lucky if they'd accept double that.
It's precisely why I hope we move away from signing overpriced English players. I still feel bummed about spunking £130million on the chuckle brothers AWB and Maguire
Agreed all round, especially on that last point..
I think the only reality in which the likes of Phillips / Calvert-Lewin make sense is I cut priced, post relegation deals, or end of contract situations perhaps.
True, could probably get Philips and neves for the price West Ham want for rice.
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