Kalvin Phillips | City player (Ipswich loan player)

They have Soucek and Alvarez.....a weird move for him to play there much more than at Manchester City in my opinion.
 
Placeholder until they get their real midfield target from Manchester in the summer.
 
BabySinclair said:
They have Soucek and Alvarez.....a weird move for him to play there much more than at Manchester City in my opinion.
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He'll probably play every game if available.

----------------Phillips ---- Alvarez (Soucek)
--------Kudus---------JWP--------Paqueta
-------------------------Bowen

Phillips doesn't have Soucek's presence in each penalty area, but should be a significant improvement in between.
 
If I was Pep I'd be telling him I don't want to see you in any poses doing that cringy cross arm thing that westam fans do.
 
If the greatest manager of all time tells you you're above target weight you work your ass off to bring it down. What kind of mentality is this?
 
BlueMoonOutcast said:
If the greatest manager of all time tells you you're above target weight you work your ass off to bring it down. What kind of mentality is this?
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When did SAF say this?

Otherwise you are absolutely correct. Players wanting to be babied think differently... Look in the Sancho thread
 
BlueMoonOutcast said:
If the greatest manager of all time tells you you're above target weight you work your ass off to bring it down. What kind of mentality is this?
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I think the issue here is that he told the whole world. We can have our opinions on whether sending messages through media is a good or bad thing, every manager does it, but I think players are right to feel annoyed or negatively impacted by it. He said it dented his confidence.
 
I think everyone in the world could have told him he would barely kick a ball for City.
 
Imagine if a manager said that about Sancho
 
RedRocket9908 said:
I think City signing him was probably more about stopping other clubs signing him than them actually wanting him themselves.
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Why would they want to stop other clubs from getting him? It’s Kalvin Phillips. Hardly the needle mover for any of City’s rivals.
 
WeePat said:
Why would they want to stop other clubs from getting him? It’s Kalvin Phillips. Hardly the needle mover for any of City’s rivals.
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It could either be KP would have improved rivals or Pep was doing that thing where he pretends to rate a player so that gullible United pay big money for a dud.

E.g. Sánchez, Maguire, Fred
 
adexkola said:
When did SAF say this?

Otherwise you are absolutely correct. Players wanting to be babied think differently... Look in the Sancho thread
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Haha! I debating wording that differently but couldn't help myself.

But yeah, poor mentality in my opinion.
 
RedRocket9908 said:
I think City signing him was probably more about stopping other clubs signing him than them actually wanting him themselves.
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I strongly suspect he did that with Grealish. Spent 100 mill on a player who didn't seem like a Pep-style player at all, then sat him on the bench for most of his first season while he figured out how to use him.

The Kalvin Philips one is strange, I never thought he'd be good enough for City, plus he's not nearly good enough to buy just to prevent rivals getting him!
 
Oscar Bonavena said:
I strongly suspect he did that with Grealish. Spent 100 mill on a player who didn't seem like a Pep-style player at all, then sat him on the bench for most of his first season while he figured out how to use him.

The Kalvin Philips one is strange, I never thought he'd be good enough for City, plus he's not nearly good enough to buy just to prevent rivals getting him!
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Liverpool were heavilly linked with Kalvin Phillips at the time and were in desperate need of midfield re-inforcements so it made sence for City to sign him to stop Liverpool who were their nearest challengers from getting him.
 
BlueMoonOutcast said:
If the greatest manager of all time tells you you're above target weight you work your ass off to bring it down. What kind of mentality is this?
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The kind of stuff thatd have the Sky pundits calling him a bad egg in the dressing room that needs shipping out, if he was foreign. But Kalvins a good lad who works his socks off etc
 
I know city doesn't miss a lot but this guy is a total failure, everyone knew he was not up to it. Basic player hyped because of his English status but bang average overall.
 
RedRocket9908 said:
Liverpool were heavilly linked with Kalvin Phillips at the time and were in desperate need of midfield re-inforcements so it made sence for City to sign him to stop Liverpool who were their nearest challengers from getting him.
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There are hundreds of midfielders out there of Phillips quality. It makes more sense that Pep either rated Phillips himself or wanted him to fill some kind HG quota. The idea that City thought he was so good that they couldn't possibly let Liverpool have him is wild. He was never that good.
 
BlueMoonOutcast said:
If the greatest manager of all time tells you you're above target weight you work your ass off to bring it down. What kind of mentality is this?
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I think it might be to do with Kalvin needing a certain type of man management. Bielsa had him meeting target weights on a weekly basis. Very strict, very thorough and Phillips would run through walls for him.

I guess the difference was that when Bielsa came in Phillips was just another two bit championship midfielder and Bielsa coached him to be the best he could possibly be and rewarded him by placing him at the centre of his system. Bielsa then leaves Phillips with an inflated ego and sense of his own talent. Once he gets to city he soon discovers he's not actually as good as he thought and he's back to being backup and the confidence of being The Man just ebbs away. Fragile ego; easily demotivated.
 
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