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Jurriën Timber | Arsenal player
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It would be interesting to truly see how much diligence is needed to make signings because every season transfers drag on continually.
I know nothing about the player. Having only read his wiki page, he isn't tall. Hopefully, that won't be a problem.
Also, I was surprised that there is a bit of chatter about monkeys and jungles. Fun times.
Also, I was surprised that there is a bit of chatter about monkeys and jungles. Fun times.
He's really poor on the ball but AWB is a good defender. Just not for a club like United. Palace was right for him.
Seems I'm the only one for whom Pitbull songs don't register.
There's also implicit trust in playing him at RB, even if temporarily as Timber knows absolutely everything expected of him in the role, so it becomes one less thing to worry about this pre-season, at least. Ajax's full-backs have complicated roles in and out of possession so Timber there really cuts coaching and stressing down by taking a position out of that equation.
Due to our CBs being all around the same age, it makes sense for us to target a younger CB. Whilst I love the idea of Timber coming onboard, I'm surprised we haven't targeted a left footed CB. There are some younger left footed CBs out there with awesome potential that would be a great fit for the squad. Unless Timber is going to split his time at RB and CB, then this deal doesn't make sense. Hopefully we target a left footed CB next year.
Pau Torres is left footed
Club doesnt know Gvardiol.
This fits with one of the recent articles about our season. Lots of discussions and nothing done.
Hmm showing your true self now; what was your original ID which presumably is was banned?Funniest Caf post since Fontaine's Rivaldo meltdown
Him and Frenkie yes please.
yes please.I'd look to be more socially aware!!! If a pundit did this online they'd be sacked and to be frank, you should be mindful of what you post.
Based on the players seriously linked, I can’t help thinking that we’re moving to 3 centre backs with Timber and Pau Torres each side of Varane or Maguire. This helps Maguire as both are quick (despite appearances, Torres is actually lightning quick and clocks insane top speeds). It also benefits Dalot, Telles and maybe even Laird who might stick around the first team. If we sign Sosa, he operates best at LWB too.
It takes away the need for a DM that shields the defence. De Jong and Fred could work with 3 defenders behind them but wouldn’t be robust enough in big games with 2 centre backs behind them.
We haven’t really been linked with wingers so I’d expect we’ll get another ST. Sancho slightly loses out in this system but surely can adapt to either the AM role or a second striker free role.
It takes away the need for a DM that shields the defence. De Jong and Fred could work with 3 defenders behind them but wouldn’t be robust enough in big games with 2 centre backs behind them.
We haven’t really been linked with wingers so I’d expect we’ll get another ST. Sancho slightly loses out in this system but surely can adapt to either the AM role or a second striker free role.
Just seen this guy is 5ft 10". Thiago Silva probably the only CB I can think of under 6ft that has been a success in the PL.
He wouldn't be my choice.
He wouldn't be my choice.
Our wing back options would need an overhaul to play that system all season, we don't have good enough quality on either side.
That's what I initially thought. However the more I think about it, the more I am warming to the idea of him being signed as a RB
A- AWB is on sale and we're not being linked to a RB.
B- Ajax love their kids to play multiple roles. Rijkaard, Blind and the De Boers all played in multiple roles.
C- ETH already play with a converted LB ie in Blind
D- United's defence is a mess. Varane, Jones, Tuanzebe, Shaw and Bailly are either shit or/and injury prone, Maguire is unsuited for ETH's game and Dalot & Telles aren't good enough. In reality we need at least 2 defenders and someone like Timber whose young, who can play multiple roles and whose on the cheap will be a nice addition to the team. Think of an upgrade on OShea
E- While Pau Torres + Timber would swallow much of our budget (around 80m), this would change if Villareal are truly interested in Bailly and we're able to sell AWB. If the pair can be sold off to a combined fee of 30m-40m then we could get the pair for just 40m.
Yeah agreed. I mentioned Sosa who operates best at LWB and is the best crosser in the Bundesliga bar Kostic who is like 7 years older. Laird put in sensational performances at RWB for Swansea in the season just gone but struggled at Bournemouth with injuries and playing in a more conventional RB role.
We could upgrade at RWB. The benefit of a 352 is that we’d only really need a ST in attack as opposed to a ST and a RW if we played 433 (and buying an extra CD is typically cheaper than buying an attacker). Antony is the only real RW we’ve been linked with but reports are tenuous at best. ETH pretty much shut down that notion himself while also basically confirming interest in Timber.
The most heavily circulated and seemingly legit rumours do seem to hint at a 352 -
GK: De Gea
RCD: Timber
LCD: Pau Torres
CD: Varane/Maguire
RWB: NEW/Dalot/Laird
LWB: Sosa/Malacia/Shaw
Playmaker CM: De Jong/NEW
Ball Winner CM: Fred;
AM: Fernandes/VDB
Free Role Attacker: Sancho
ST: Ronaldo/Nunez/NEW
Fred as the ball winner should not be happening, he's better further forward if anything.
Are we really doing this again United won't be playing 3 at the back formation regularly and nothing suggest We are targeting players specifically for that . Chances are it would most probably be 4231 again .
If we signed Timber and Torres I would think we'd more likely play Timber as a RB in a nominal 4-3-3/4-2-3-1 and just have our fullbacks invert centrally to effectively create a 3-4-3 in possession.
So one of Timber/Shaw would tuck in to form part of the back three alongside the two centre-backs while the other would push ahead to form part of the midfield four. That's closer to what Ajax currently do.
It would effectively mean swapping the dedicated RWB in a 3-5-2 for an extra attacker/midfielder.
Or it might be that we only sign one of Timber and Torres and we just haven't been linked with the dedicated RB we're actually interested in yet.
Just read an article in The Sun on him and he is described as “towering”
Sounds like that’s the plan, which I like.
I reckon we won't have problems shifting Bailly but finding a buyer for AWB would be difficult.
Oh calm down the transfer window isn't even open yet.
If we ask 20m for the guy then someone will buy him up
Who wrote the article, Warwick Davis?Just read an article in The Sun on him and he is described as “towering”
How have you just seen this? There are 36 pages of nonstop complaining about it.
Just read that Chelsea have him as one of their targets and not a peep on any interest from us, so you're probably right. Goes to show that we still haven't learnt. He'll be a beast at Chelsea and the CAF will weep, just as it did for Konate.
No one saw Konate or Upamecano coming right.
I cant think of many 20 year olds that have been successful CB's. That and his height makes him a gamble and a project. Is that really what we need to be doing? I can only trust that Ten Haag knows best. But there is no way he comes in as first choice and dislodges Maguire, Varane or even Lindelof. He will be 4th choice, one for the future signing. Or if he starts then he is a one in a generation talent
De Ligt moved at age 19/20. He's been doing well for Juve. Fans are excited that he extended his contract and want him as the captain. Ajax fans (including me) think Timber is deffo ready for the step up. The kid is amazing. I'll be gutted if he leaves.
He is believe me
Hope we get this one done.
Yeah, it is extremely rare for a CB that young to start (especially for a big club) and thrive in the PL.
Fofana is really the only recent example. Stones played a lot at that age too but his form was very up-and-down.
Terry and Rio both did it at 20 but they were two of the best CBs in the history of the league.
Is that bid being prepared or is it still marinating in the fridge?
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