Jurgen Klopp

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I can imgaine that it is the other way round and has to do with players plans for next season. Surely he knows more who is leaving
 

Classy...
Not everybody can have pearlwhite biters like Brendan. All teeth are beatiful!
 
What extent? Soft spot? Which is pretty much exactly what I said at the start. What's wrong with people having a soft spot for teams with great stories behind them in football? That's why everyone wanted atletico to win la lig a last season.

Like I said, you actually have no reason to have an issue with this. It's quite irrational.
Football is irrational. We have no reason to support anyone and take joy from them winning games.
 
Tuchel is a top, top manager in the making. Don't be surprised if he's on the hitlist to replace LVG when he retires.
 
Dunno. Calmer than I thought I would be. It definitively helps that I have been around way longer than just the Klopp era and don´t identify everything my club is about with just his person. It will be weird seeing a different person on the side lines, but it is certainly not a complete foreign thought for me. The club is bigger than anyone.

What just happened was the way Klopp often predicted. He would leave on his own terms when he would realize that he is not the best man for the job anymore. This season has in quite a few ways been unacceptable by Klopp´s standart and it became very obvious for a long time that the club and the team would need new impulses to recover. I personally thought it would be a major overhaul of the squad under Klopp, but now the overhaul starts with Klopp.

In the end, similar to his tenure at Mainz (and people stating that his time there was a sign of failure need to have their head checked) he left Dortmund in a way better shape than when he took over and for that he has earned himself massive respect and gratitude. It might also be the best time to install a new coach. Succeeding Klopp was always going to be a huge job, but the really lackluster season might lower expectations a bit for the new coach.

Quite frankly, I don´t know how I will feel about it in the long run, because I have no idea how big the effects of this change will be. Ask me again at the end of the Summer window and I might have a more definite answer. The potential for great football is still there (financial strength, improved youth work, club structure) and that is to a large part thanks to Jürgen Klopp.

I would love to see Tuchel take over. To me it seems like he would be a great evolutionary step for the club. He is tactically more versatile than Klopp and likes to rotate the team which are two traits that I always felt Klopp was lacking a bit. Tuchel might not be as much of a buddy type like Klopp but I think his more distant attitude towards his players might be a needed change for your team as well.

And apart from Tuchel I don't really feel there is a really suitable candidate available right now unless your team decides to go for a risky but promising option like Dirk Schuster.
 
:( I really want him, too. Why can't Klopp wait for another two years ???

*insert Ando's fave curse word x 3*

On hindsight, sacking Moyes too early was a mistake.

Would make everything a lot smoother indeed! It is always difficult with managers as they are rarely available when you need them.
 
Football is irrational. We have no reason to support anyone and take joy from them winning games.

You must be fun at parties. "As beer drinkers we have no reason to enjoy gin tonics! I feel nothing but disdain for those rival drinks!"
 
Where do you draw the line? Do you consider Barca and Real rivals? Munich or Juve?
City and Liverpool are our rivals. And anyone around us at the time in the league aiming for the same spots.

Teams outside England aren't really our rivals. We compete with them once every few years for 90-180 minutes. I don't think that's a "rivalry" of any sort. Maybe on the business front, Madrid and barca can be counted as rivals.

I mean, why wouldn't I watch the atletico story last year and not want them to win la liga because of some fake rivalry that Manchester United have with atletico Madrid. It makes pretty much zero sense. I'm glad atletico Madrid won la liga. Stories like that are what football is all about. Is that a small fragment of support? Then that's great.
 
Football is irrational. We have no reason to support anyone and take joy from them winning games.
Football isn't irrational. You're being irrational. We have every reason to watch football and take joy from it. That's why we watch football ffs :lol: that's why I saw the World Cup. It was fecking awesome. United didn't play it in and it still was.
 
I'm going to be monitoring the cl thread tonight for any obvious displays of joy.
 
Why? You have a better manager, players who want to play for your club, you're the big beneficiaries of FFP and you're a team improving big time. Klopp would need a massive turnover of players at City to get them playing football his way.


Klopp's Dortmund took the crown from LVG's Bayern despite them having an infinitely smaller budget. In fact that led towards his sacking
 
Klopp's Dortmund took the crown from LVG's Bayern despite them having an infinitely smaller budget. In fact that led towards his sacking
That doesn't make him a better manage than lvg. Just makes him the winner of that particular battle.
 
Football is irrational. We have no reason to support anyone and take joy from them winning games.

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Derby County beat us 2-0 in October of 1893, I wish nothing but despair upon them.
Could be a good thread idea here


Insignifcant clubs you hate for no actual reason other than they beat us..

Wigan for me. We would have won the league in 2012 if they didnt raise their game.

Anyway.. Klopp. One hit wonder i feel. I expect him to flop hard where ever he goes next. Did not ever want him in charge of us.
 
He's going to City this summer. No other jobs for him really.
 
Football isn't irrational. You're being irrational. We have every reason to watch football and take joy from it. That's why we watch football ffs :lol: that's why I saw the World Cup. It was fecking awesome. United didn't play it in and it still was.
I wonder what he does when he watches Bayern-Dortmund or El Classico? Just curse at both teams whenever they have a good period in the game I guess
 
Don't understand the Madrid links, he's not going there. Klopp said himself that he envisions being in the PL because he can speak English and he feels it's important for a manager to know the language of the country he's managing in. That rules out Spain and Italy and PSG. City and Liverpool are obvious links with Tottenham and perhaps Arsenal with an outside shot. City I don't see happening, he's too classy for them. They will no doubt be interested but I think he turns them down. Klopp after what he's endured lately thrives stability and City aren't known for that. My guess is he does indeed take a year off and surveys the landscape again. In the meantime he should do some punditry. His analysis on the game would be wonderful.
 
That doesn't make him a better manage than lvg. Just makes him the winner of that particular battle.

It made him a better manager that season. The next season his Dortmund set the record for points. And its more likely to go his way than LVG's if he has the better record
 
Could be a good thread idea here


Insignifcant clubs you hate for no actual reason other than they beat us..

Wigan for me. We would have won the league in 2012 if they didnt raise their game.

Anyway.. Klopp. One hit wonder i feel. I expect him to flop hard where ever he goes next. Did not ever want him in charge of us.
F*cking Swansea.
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And they'd have more of each

I don't think that they have more quality players and their football club don't have more money, their owners do but with FFP, it's the club money that matter.
 
Such mixed feelings about this. He was very much my fantasy replacement for Moyes last summer, and even with foreknowledge of Dortmund's subsequent awful season I doubt that would have changed. It really felt like he'd be a match made in heaven for United as a club and for the Premier League.

But LVG is doing brilliantly with us at the moment, and his hard work is starting to bear very promising fruit, so obviously that ship has well and truly sailed. It's probably a good thing for the sanity of our fans (myself included) that this announcement has come now rather than three or four months ago! All the things he's been predicting all season - that we'd start slowly but that once the players really started to get to grips with his ideas a clear system would emerge and we'd start to have some success; and that our injury crisis was caused by his changes to the way we train, but that once the players adapted we'd start to see far fewer injuries - are coming true. He's obviously the right man for the job.

It's a shame that this is how Klopp's Dortmund tenure has ended, but I still think we're all very lucky to have been able to watch the three or four great years of that partnership. Although it was Bayern who battered Barca in that CL semi, it was really Dortmund's success and the manner in which they achieved it, for me, that really put an end to the increasingly stagnant, Barca-dominated period that ended with that double defeat of Spanish teams by German.
 
It made him a better manager that season. The next season his Dortmund set the record for points. And its more likely to go his way than LVG's if he has the better record
Fair enough. But I think there are too many new factors to say right now.
 
I don't think that they have more quality players and their football club don't have more money, their owners do but with FFP, it's the club money that matter.

True, they'll have to shift around but I think they'll do that and give him the players he needs. Which by the way, wasnt expensive players when he did it at Dortmund. The kinds of players he needs wont make them stretch FFP - unless the club insist on marquee signings, which could well happen
 
I would love to see Tuchel take over. To me it seems like he would be a great evolutionary step for the club. He is tactically more versatile than Klopp and likes to rotate the team which are two traits that I always felt Klopp was lacking a bit. Tuchel might not be as much of a buddy type like Klopp but I think his more distant attitude towards his players might be a needed change for your team as well.

And apart from Tuchel I don't really feel there is a really suitable candidate available right now unless your team decides to go for a risky but promising option like Dirk Schuster.

Tuchel would be the best choice in terms of competence in my book and certainly a change to Klopp´s approach. Paulo Sousa (former Dortmund player and currently Basel coach) and Markus Weinzierl (Augsburg) are two other names, which are brought up right now, but it is most likely Tuchel.
 
What's this news I hear breaking? Klopp leaving Dortumund. Righty then, No top 4 or FA cup Rodgers OUT. Klopp IN! Initiate Anfield approach now!
 
Love the telegraph messing up the live commentary of the press conference

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I'd love to tell you what Klopp is saying. He is saying a lot. But I can understand precisely none of it. So here's a photo of him pouring some water instead:

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Why can't I speak German???????



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Right we have a slight issue... they are speaking in German and my GCSE in the subject isn't much help. What I can deduce is that the bloke currently speaking (I'm assuming he's the Dortmund chief exec or something) genuinely sounds like someone has died. He's properly choked. Oh he just said "fantastisch". I'm guessing he wasn't describing Klopp's decision to leave the club.



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Klopp has just sat down to face the media...
 
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