Jurgen Klopp Sack Watch

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Where is Le Tallec now then?

Retired in 2021 according to wiki. Spent the last few years of his career in the French lower leagues. Got promoted from the French fourth tier in 2019/20, then they finished 14th of 18 in the third tier in his final season. Only played 17 times for them though, so not sure how much he contributed.

Spent half a season in Romania and a couple of years in Greece before that.

Honours section consists of the 2005 CL with Liverpool (he started one game, and made two appearances off the bench, totaling 90 minutes on the pitch across the three - wasn't in the squad for the final) and the 2007 French Cup with Sochaux (scored in the shoot-out, to be fair). Been relegated four times though.
 
One thing I didn't know and just discovered by checking their wikis is that Le Tallec and Sinama Pongolle are cousins!

A fact so pertinent it's mentioned twice in the first two sentences of the main body of Le Tallec's page.
 
Even though Klopp will be back managing, I think this may still be seen as a changing of the guard moment. Not just for him but for Guardiola to some extent too. In the same way that those two replaced the likes of Mourinho as the best around, come the summer, Arteta and Alonso may be seen as the two most in demand managers.
 
Even though Klopp will be back managing, I think this may still be seen as a changing of the guard moment. Not just for him but for Guardiola to some extent too. In the same way that those two replaced the likes of Mourinho as the best around, come the summer, Arteta and Alonso may be seen as the two most in demand managers.

Arsenal fans :lol:
 
They have won nothing. They shat the bed last season and odds are they will do the same this. It’s Arsenal.

In all my years watching football, I have never seen such chicken counting as there’s been surrounding Arsenal over the last 12-18 months. They won a few games and suddenly Arteta is being talked about in the same breaths as Pep and Klopp.

Let’s see them win something, and then back that up by winning something else next year. Then they can start justifying the ocean of smoke that’s been blown up Lego Pep’s hole.
 
They have won nothing. They shat the bed last season and odds are they will do the same this. It’s Arsenal.

In all my years watching football, I have never seen such chicken counting as there’s been surrounding Arsenal over the last 12-18 months. They won a few games and suddenly Arteta is being talked about in the same breaths as Pep and Klopp.

Let’s see them win something, and then back that up by winning something else next year. Then they can start justifying the ocean of smoke that’s been blown up Lego Pep’s hole.

He's won the FA cup. So if he wins something this year, that checks your "he won two things" box. Or does it have to be in consecutive years?
 
He's won the FA cup. So if he wins something this year, that checks your "he won two things" box. Or does it have to be in consecutive years?

I think the point is that they haven’t actually won anything since Arteta turned them around and people started hyping them. That FA Cup is four years ago now.

If he wins something this year it would have to be the PL or CL, since that’s all that’s left for them and in that case you’d have to give him huge credit. He does a great job regardless, but if he comes through these two seasons of great football without silverware that would be a disappointment in hindsight.
 
He's won the FA cup. So if he wins something this year, that checks your "he won two things" box. Or does it have to be in consecutive years?

League or CL is what counts. FA Cup is nice and all, but nobody mentions Ten Hag, Brendan Rodgers or Roberto Martinez in the same conversations as Pep and Klopp.
 
I think the point is that they haven’t actually won anything since Arteta turned them around and people started hyping them. That FA Cup is four years ago now.

If he wins something this year it would have to be the PL or CL, since that’s all that’s left for them and in that case you’d have to give him huge credit. He does a great job regardless, but if he comes through these two seasons of great football without silverware that would be a disappointment in hindsight.

But, but, Pep's City.
 
Nah. Any United fan would love a manager like him at the club.

To be top of the league for most of the season considering all their injuries is incredible.
We’d be glad with Father Ted Crilly
Our weakness doesn’t mean Klopp is a tier 1 manager
 
A serious reconsideration of whether Klopp should have told everyone he was leaving when he did? They were flying then. Now they've been dog shit the past few matches, look completely gassed.
 
Too much pressure on them since announcing his retirement, should have done what Fergie did.
 
Scored 1 non-penalty goal from 67 shots in their past 3 games. Started Nunez in all 3. Get what you pick.
 
Klopp announces that this ain't the way the Farewell Party was meant to go and see y'all next season
 
But but but.....Liverpool were going to win 4 trophies in his farewell season .....


Selfish clubs..ruining everything for Klopp
 
Klopp announces that this ain't the way the Farewell Party was meant to go and see y'all next season
Nah I think a big reason he’s called time is because he knows many of the best players are past their best / leaving in the next couple of windows. And he knows the task ahead over the next few years. No chance they’re plucking the next Van Dijk and Salah with no competition again

He was just hoping to squeeze another title out of this group before it all fell apart.
 
Nah I think a big reason he’s called time is because he knows many of the best players are past their best / leaving in the next couple of windows. And he knows the task ahead over the next few years. No chance they’re plucking the next Van Dijk and Salah with no competition again

He was just hoping to squeeze another title out of this group before it all fell apart.

Yeah I think he's leaving at the exact right time from his POV.

You look at their squad and it doesn't come across as that amazing, they just had a very very good manager in Klopp who was able to get tons out of them. It's very similar to us in the last 4 or 5 years under Fergie. And we all know what happened after he left.
 
Yeah I think he's leaving at the exact right time from his POV.

You look at their squad and it doesn't come across as that amazing, they just had a very very good manager in Klopp who was able to get tons out of them. It's very similar to us in the last 4 or 5 years under Fergie. And we all know what happened after he left.

Slightly different scenarios as Fergie's squad cruised the league and I still refuse to believe that any half decent manager couldn't have made a couple of signings and kept us at absolute lowest. 4th place.
But their squad is definitely nowhere near as strong as some think, even the much vaunted strike force.

Diaz and Nunez miss loads, Salah has been well off for a while and wouldn't surprise anyone if he's angling for the Saudi move. Jota pops up with goals but isn't brilliant and Gahkpo was never that good despite the hype.