Jurgen Klopp Sack Watch

stefan92 said:
Yes and no.

Yes, United generates more public interest. No, the pressure isn't higher. Look at what people consider to be successful seasons, scraping top four is usually enough to keep the job, sprinkle the occasional cup run on top and you are safe.

No one expects United to be an elite successful club any more, United simply is seen as entertainment, and that's how they fill all those inches. Klopp is excellent at playing the media, he would provide the entertainment factor and he would be safe because fans would love him and the board cares more about socia media interactions than about titles.

Fans expect a title challenge after a new manager spends multiple years and a billion pounds. That's not pressure. Pressure is at Real Madrid or Bayern Munich, where you might be fired for lingering around second place for to long or for failing to win the league despite winning the CL. It's the least pressure job at any club of that financial power because demanding immediate success simply doesn't happen at United.
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You might be right about Real and Bayern, but United is clearly a step up from Liverpool. If Alison did what Onana did against Wolves, for example, there's no way it dominates the discussion for a whole week and still gets brought up months later. Don't underestimate the pressure fans and the media can put on players and managers, even if our owners don't care about anything other than their own profits.

The situation at Bayern isn't really comparable, by the way, because even a manager like Kovac can win the league with them. As bad as United have been over the past decade, they still would have been better competition for Bayern than the teams they've actually been up against most years.
 
Neutral like Switzerland said:
Hahaha... All said while secretly wishing Klopp was he's manager...
I'm afraid your post is not very convincing or credible. You are clearly biased against Klopp and Liverpool, and you have no objective or rational basis for your claims. You are just expressing your personal preferences and prejudices, and trying to disguise them as facts and arguments. But you are not fooling anyone.

You say Klopp is nothing better than the second most successful manager in the PL, but that is a misleading and simplistic way of measuring success. Success is not only about winning titles, but also about overcoming challenges, creating a legacy, and making an impact. Klopp has done all that and more. He has taken Liverpool from a struggling and underachieving team to a dominant and consistent one. He has built a squad of world-class players who play with passion, intensity, and flair. He has developed a unique style of football that is admired and feared by everyone. He has won the Champions League, the Premier League, the FIFA Club World Cup, and the UEFA Super Cup with Liverpool. He has also won two Bundesliga titles and reached another Champions League final with Borussia Dortmund.

You also say Klopp is a comedian, but that is a compliment, not an insult. Klopp is a charismatic, passionate, and inspirational leader. He is not afraid to show his emotions, whether it is joy or anger. He is honest and humble, and he always gives credit to his opponents. He is not a sore loser or a bad winner. He is a gentleman and a sportsman. He is also funny and entertaining, and he makes us all smile with his jokes and gestures. He is not a clown or a fool, he is a genius and a legend.

You should be honest with yourself and admit that you are jealous of Klopp and Liverpool. You wish you had him as your manager instead of the ones you have had since Sir Alex Ferguson retired. You wish you had his players instead of the ones you have spent millions on. You wish you had his trophies instead of the ones you have missed out on. You wish you had his fans instead of the ones who have lost faith in your club.

But you don't have any of that, and you never will. Because Klopp chose Liverpool over Manchester United or any other club. Because he saw something special in Liverpool that he didn't see in anyone else. Because he felt a connection with Liverpool that he didn't feel with anyone else. Because he loves Liverpool as much as Liverpool loves him.

Maybe I am just an unbiased football lover who would have loved Ferguson, Wenger, Klopp, Pep etc as the my manager...
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Neutral like Switzerland AKA robbing hub caps in Snotty Ash eh?

Not that it matters to me but have you got a mental block that stops you from understanding what you read?

I said that “I like Kloppo being in the PL“ because of the comedy that the gurning fool gifts to us all . . Yet you harp on like a deluded dipper about how I must secretly like him (are you on the same inhalers he burns his squad out with?) . when I’ve already written that I don’t just like but absolutely love hearing his ridiculous excuses and deluded rants . . We all roll with laughter at the clown with the big plastic gnashers so yes we like him here, we love to see him lose but my oh my we like the goon.

And no, I may like the entertainment value of seeing the idiot shouting at the moon, like grandpa out of the Simpsons, while the bald bloke at city hoovers up the honours and leaves Kloppo a poor and frustrated second best (diddums) but I wouldn’t want him rocking up to my club Whitchurch Alport because he’s a nasty piece of work and we like nice people in our town.

And you think he joined the ferals because he saw something special there?
Well go on then, what was the attraction?
Was it a teary eyed love of vintage Beatles music - maybe he identified with their tune about a girl being just 17 (if you know what they mean ;-)) but anyhow they fled the gaff pronto once they got the wherewithal to escape, so a Beatles fan would want to do what the Beatles did and put some mileage between themselves and that place.
So maybe an insatiable desire to live in a city built on the proceeds of slavery, to manage a club financed heavily to it’s one period of notable success by massive sponsorship from a gambling empire, or could it be the raw sewage excitement of being surrounded by a high crime rate.
Maybe he felt a kinship with their constant whinging about how the world picks on the poor sods while glossing over the fact that their outrageous and viciously unhinged behaviour got the whole of English football banned from Europe (no need to commemorate those particular victims or to mention the manslaughter convictions eh?).

Hands up, having thought it through, you’re right and you’ve convinced me . . why would he want to manage any other club.
I‘m now on your wavelength and I can quite believe that he shunned lucrative offers from Man Utd, Man City, Arsenal, Chelsea and Spurs to joyously crawl a thousand miles (Proclaimer style 500 + 500 more . . but over broken glass while naked and being whipped with nettles & thistles) to work at liverpool as an act of humble charity and for the love of the cheeky rascals.

Sorry about my initial disbelief fella, it’s pretty obvious now that I think about it, we all know that he’s a nasty piece of work and fits right in with the regional character, a match made in hell but kinda funny to laugh at from a safe distance.


PS. And, just so that you know I like the stubble chinned gimp, I hope he wins that massive game in the huge European competition that he’s steered his club into . .
Who are they playing tonight? Could it be the mighty Barcelona, Real Madrid or maybe Bayern Munich?
Hang on I’ll go check . . .
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. . . . Blimey, doesn’t time fly, there was I thinking it must be Wednesday and it’s Thursday already . .

. . . . And they’re playing against Union Saint-Giloise . . :D:D:D:D

And you dare to doubt that we like him for the laughter he brings . . We love the clown!
 
Klopper76 said:
He lost the argument by saying that.
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I have noticed that is what made a lot of people start to mock him more than the refs.

stefan92 said:
Yes and no.

Yes, United generates more public interest. No, the pressure isn't higher. Look at what people consider to be successful seasons, scraping top four is usually enough to keep the job, sprinkle the occasional cup run on top and you are safe.
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I think that's good enough for the first and maybe even second season but not after that. Jose was being criticised when he finished 2nd behind City despite easily getting top 4 and winning cups. People expected him to compete for the title. Ole was never taken seriously despite being pretty good at getting top 4. Some on TV were arguing United should be challenging for the title this year.

It's why our managers only last 2-3 seasons. The pressure is there for the manager to build a title winning team and keep making progress towards that. Top 4 and a cup is good for a year or two but that's it and I'd argue getting that with this club in this state is as hard as winning the league at Bayern and Madrid. Going beyond that at united is practically impossible.

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That's the stupid thing about this. We've seen this before but the media are acting like this is worse than Maradonas handball and the greatest refereeing travesty of all time. Its a bad offside call ffs but they act like it's match fixing

pierrethesnack said:
Okay, shame.
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He said he thinks there should be but probably won't.
 
B. Munich said:
I think you are wrong here. One of Klopp's biggest strengths is too create a positive atmosphere within and around his clubs. This includes the players, staff, management but also the fans and press.

He got relegated with Mainz, had s terrible last season with Dortmund and a couple of bad seasons with Liverpool. Still here was never close to get sacked, the fans never turned on him, despite getting relegated or having disastrous runs.

I'm sure, if Klopp had joined you guys in 2015 the whole atmosphere within and around the club would be totally different and there weren't threads like United players have PTSD.

I'm even pretty sure, if you give Rangnick the level of control he needs to be successful, you would have a stronger squad today and be in much better position.
Rangnick failed, but he failed because he did get zero support from the management.
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Only non Manchester united fans can and will see this point... Human psychology is absolutely amazing and tribalism or unity is something extremely piwer
BobFromParva said:
Neutral like Switzerland AKA robbing hub caps in Snotty Ash eh?

Not that it matters to me but have you got a mental block that stops you from understanding what you read?

I said that “I like Kloppo being in the PL“ because of the comedy that the gurning fool gifts to us all . . Yet you harp on like a deluded dipper about how I must secretly like him (are you on the same inhalers he burns his squad out with?) . when I’ve already written that I don’t just like but absolutely love hearing his ridiculous excuses and deluded rants . . We all roll with laughter at the clown with the big plastic gnashers so yes we like him here, we love to see him lose but my oh my we like the goon.

And no, I may like the entertainment value of seeing the idiot shouting at the moon, like grandpa out of the Simpsons, while the bald bloke at city hoovers up the honours and leaves Kloppo a poor and frustrated second best (diddums) but I wouldn’t want him rocking up to my club Whitchurch Alport because he’s a nasty piece of work and we like nice people in our town.

And you think he joined the ferals because he saw something special there?
Well go on then, what was the attraction?
Was it a teary eyed love of vintage Beatles music - maybe he identified with their tune about a girl being just 17 (if you know what they mean ;-)) but anyhow they fled the gaff pronto once they got the wherewithal to escape, so a Beatles fan would want to do what the Beatles did and put some mileage between themselves and that place.
So maybe an insatiable desire to live in a city built on the proceeds of slavery, to manage a club financed heavily to it’s one period of notable success by massive sponsorship from a gambling empire, or could it be the raw sewage excitement of being surrounded by a high crime rate.
Maybe he felt a kinship with their constant whinging about how the world picks on the poor sods while glossing over the fact that their outrageous and viciously unhinged behaviour got the whole of English football banned from Europe (no need to commemorate those particular victims or to mention the manslaughter convictions eh?).

Hands up, having thought it through, you’re right and you’ve convinced me . . why would he want to manage any other club.
I‘m now on your wavelength and I can quite believe that he shunned lucrative offers from Man Utd, Man City, Arsenal, Chelsea and Spurs to joyously crawl a thousand miles (Proclaimer style 500 + 500 more . . but over broken glass while naked and being whipped with nettles & thistles) to work at liverpool as an act of humble charity and for the love of the cheeky rascals.

Sorry about my initial disbelief fella, it’s pretty obvious now that I think about it, we all know that he’s a nasty piece of work and fits right in with the regional character, a match made in hell but kinda funny to laugh at from a safe distance.


PS. And, just so that you know I like the stubble chinned gimp, I hope he wins that massive game in the huge European competition that he’s steered his club into . .
Who are they playing tonight? Could it be the mighty Barcelona, Real Madrid or maybe Bayern Munich?
Hang on I’ll go check . . .
. . . .
. . . . Blimey, doesn’t time fly, there was I thinking it must be Wednesday and it’s Thursday already . .

. . . . And they’re playing against Union Saint-Giloise . . :D:D:D:D

And you dare to doubt that we like him for the laughter he brings . . We love the clown!
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"It's always a captivating spectacle, witnessing the oscillations of perception within the theatre of football forums. At the heart of your commentary, one can't help but detect the subtle notes of the age-old paradox: deriding what one secretly desires. The 'clown' you reference, with his intriguing dance across the European stage, seems to stir a discord in the symphony of Manchester United fandom. It’s almost as if he's the vinyl record you mock in the age of streaming, yet secretly wish to have in your collection.

Drawing from the annals of recent football history, and sifting through the breadcrumbs left behind in forums like these, one could easily surmise a latent wish: to see this very 'jest' wearing a red tie, orchestrating the ballet at Old Trafford. To be fair, in a world where we 'slide into DMs' and celebrate 'throwbacks', it's quite possible today's banter is just tomorrow's #WishfulWednesday post.

But, as they say, the football world spins on the axis of irony. While we're quick to 'throw shade', we often do so standing in the shadows of our own biases. The beauty of this game, much like life, lies not just in the goals scored, but in the narratives crafted, the rivalries fostered, and the memes birthed.

The football realm, much like the latest viral trend, is unpredictable. Today's 'no cap' moment might just be tomorrow's 'big yikes'. So while we navigate this game, sprinkling our takes with GIFs and emojis, let's remember: it's often the unexpected underdogs – or 'clowns', if you will – that end up 'breaking the internet'. Because, as every Gen Z and millennial hybrid knows, while you might start off as the joke, you could very well end up being the trendsetter. And that, my friend, is the ultimate glow-up.


But, that my fellow football lover, you will never know, because your just a football forum Troll... Love, peace and happiness my young lost soul.
 
Neutral like Switzerland said:
Only non Manchester united fans can and will see this point... Human psychology is absolutely amazing and tribalism or unity is something extremely piwer

"It's always a captivating spectacle, witnessing the oscillations of perception within the theatre of football forums. At the heart of your commentary, one can't help but detect the subtle notes of the age-old paradox: deriding what one secretly desires. The 'clown' you reference, with his intriguing dance across the European stage, seems to stir a discord in the symphony of Manchester United fandom. It’s almost as if he's the vinyl record you mock in the age of streaming, yet secretly wish to have in your collection.

Drawing from the annals of recent football history, and sifting through the breadcrumbs left behind in forums like these, one could easily surmise a latent wish: to see this very 'jest' wearing a red tie, orchestrating the ballet at Old Trafford. To be fair, in a world where we 'slide into DMs' and celebrate 'throwbacks', it's quite possible today's banter is just tomorrow's #WishfulWednesday post.

But, as they say, the football world spins on the axis of irony. While we're quick to 'throw shade', we often do so standing in the shadows of our own biases. The beauty of this game, much like life, lies not just in the goals scored, but in the narratives crafted, the rivalries fostered, and the memes birthed.

The football realm, much like the latest viral trend, is unpredictable. Today's 'no cap' moment might just be tomorrow's 'big yikes'. So while we navigate this game, sprinkling our takes with GIFs and emojis, let's remember: it's often the unexpected underdogs – or 'clowns', if you will – that end up 'breaking the internet'. Because, as every Gen Z and millennial hybrid knows, while you might start off as the joke, you could very well end up being the trendsetter. And that, my friend, is the ultimate glow-up.


But, that my fellow football lover, you will never know, because your just a football forum Troll... Love, peace and happiness my young lost soul.
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The depth of dipper delusion is absolutely unfathomable, you’re almost as funny as the gurning fool.

And, while I admit there’s a perverse element of intrigue as to why you sit there in your Luis the buck toothed racist T shirt and pride yourself as the bastard offspring of Jimmy Savile and Ken Dodd, engaging in conversation with a rawk reject like you is like poking a road kill with a sharp stick . . you learn a little about how it was put together but it’s stinky and disgusting.

So I’ll bid you a cheery farewell you poor sad dipper, and tootle off to engage in discussions with people who actually have an argument to make.


I light a candle for you :)



Not.
 
BobFromParva said:
The depth of dipper delusion is absolutely unfathomable, you’re almost as funny as the gurning fool.

And, while I admit there’s a perverse element of intrigue as to why you sit there in your Luis the buck toothed racist T shirt and pride yourself as the bastard offspring of Jimmy Savile and Ken Dodd, engaging in conversation with a rawk reject like you is like poking a road kill with a sharp stick . . you learn a little about how it was put together but it’s stinky and disgusting.

So I’ll bid you a cheery farewell you poor sad dipper, and tootle off to engage in discussions with people who actually have an argument to make.


I light a candle for you :)



Not.
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I'd say that equating the Liverpool manager and fans to racists and now paedophiles falls into the 'beyond the pale' category.
 
BobFromParva said:
The depth of dipper delusion is absolutely unfathomable, you’re almost as funny as the gurning fool.

And, while I admit there’s a perverse element of intrigue as to why you sit there in your Luis the buck toothed racist T shirt and pride yourself as the bastard offspring of Jimmy Savile and Ken Dodd, engaging in conversation with a rawk reject like you is like poking a road kill with a sharp stick . . you learn a little about how it was put together but it’s stinky and disgusting.

So I’ll bid you a cheery farewell you poor sad dipper, and tootle off to engage in discussions with people who actually have an argument to make.


I light a candle for you :)



Not.
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Are you sure you’re not one of us. You don’t half wax poetic Really nice writing although can’t be arsed to read into all your little observations.
 
TheGame said:
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Absolutely brilliant. Klopp and the Bald Fråud have an eternal victim complex and overlook anything to the contrary.

When VAR forgot to draw the offside line in the Arsenal/Brentford in February and effectively cost Arsenal 2 points in the middle of a title chase, I don't recall even half of the fanfare as this one has received.
 
BobFromParva said:
The depth of dipper delusion is absolutely unfathomable, you’re almost as funny as the gurning fool.

And, while I admit there’s a perverse element of intrigue as to why you sit there in your Luis the buck toothed racist T shirt and pride yourself as the bastard offspring of Jimmy Savile and Ken Dodd, engaging in conversation with a rawk reject like you is like poking a road kill with a sharp stick . . you learn a little about how it was put together but it’s stinky and disgusting.

So I’ll bid you a cheery farewell you poor sad dipper, and tootle off to engage in discussions with people who actually have an argument to make.


I light a candle for you :)



Not.
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Kids... Always speaking out of turn. I can bury you with words my boy but as a neutral IL stand down and bid you a fair well my lost soul.
 
Pascal Quiff said:
I'd say that equating the Liverpool manager and fans to racists and now paedophiles falls into the 'beyond the pale' category.
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I didn’t write that Kloppo was racist that’s just your deluded interpretation but heartening nevertheless to see that the scouse brethren are still sticking with their club’s official line that Suarez the biter wasn’t a racist?

As for paedophiles, I didn’t write that word, you introduced it into the dialogue not me.
Correct me if I’m wrong but I’m guessing that my mention of the liverpool super-fan Savile cut you to the quick and inspired you to jump to his defence with gusto . . much like your club jumped to the support of screwy Luis and wore the T shirt to proudly boast it . . but I didn’t accuse him of anything so this is nothing other than a case of you metaphorically wearing the Savile T shirt albeit totally out of context to the jolly discussion that you decided to invade.

You poor sad wretch.
 
Someone said:
He absolutely did.
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He demanded did he? No, he probably shouldn't have even said what he did, suggested at best, but was obvious no one including Liverpool expected a replay. Klopp has clarified that today. Highlighting how unprofessional the whole VAR system is is a good thing for the whole league without a doubt.
 
BobFromParva said:
I didn’t write that Kloppo was racist that’s just your deluded interpretation but heartening nevertheless to see that the scouse brethren are still sticking with their club’s official line that Suarez the biter wasn’t a racist?

As for paedophiles, I didn’t write that word, you introduced it into the dialogue not me.
Correct me if I’m wrong but I’m guessing that my mention of the liverpool super-fan Savile cut you to the quick and inspired you to jump to his defence with gusto . . much like your club jumped to the support of screwy Luis and wore the T shirt to proudly boast it . . but I didn’t accuse him of anything so this is nothing other than a case of you metaphorically wearing the Savile T shirt albeit totally out of context to the jolly discussion that you decided to invade.

You poor sad wretch.
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Enjoying the banter :wenger:
 
BobFromParva said:
I didn’t write that Kloppo was racist that’s just your deluded interpretation but heartening nevertheless to see that the scouse brethren are still sticking with their club’s official line that Suarez the biter wasn’t a racist?

As for paedophiles, I didn’t write that word, you introduced it into the dialogue not me.
Correct me if I’m wrong but I’m guessing that my mention of the liverpool super-fan Savile cut you to the quick and inspired you to jump to his defence with gusto . . much like your club jumped to the support of screwy Luis and wore the T shirt to proudly boast it . . but I didn’t accuse him of anything so this is nothing other than a case of you metaphorically wearing the Savile T shirt albeit totally out of context to the jolly discussion that you decided to invade.

You poor sad wretch.
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The difference between Saint Kloppy-Woppy and Sir Alex (aside from a shedload of trophies) is that we never had the media on our side. It was generally the opposite, with the press taking any opportunity to ask for the book to be thrown at us and giving us bizarre punishments (Keane's ban for writing a book, Rooney's for swearing at a camera, Neville for celebrating, and the Scholes pre-season red card spring to mind). These were always due to the profile of the club and would have been matters either ignored or brushed under the carpet if they happened to players from other sides. Take Haaland, for instance. He swore on live TV in front of an audience of millions but everyone just forgot about it instantly.

The whole reason that Klopp has the brass neck to demand a replay is that he's well aware that Liverpool are media darlings. He knows that the media will back him to the hilt.
 
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Neutral like Switzerland said:
Kids... Always speaking out of turn. I can bury you with words my boy but as a neutral IL stand down and bid you a fair well my lost soul.
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It’s somehow sad but also funny the way that you dodgy dippers can’t let go.

Ironic that my initial post, as a lower league supporter, was to say how much I like kloppo and his gurning rants.
Most lower league supporters have no emotional investment in Premier League football and the scores read out on the tannoy at ht are of little interest to us - the exception is the dipper scores . . we always cheer if liverpool are getting beaten because we know that we’re likely to be treated to klopp the clown throwing blame at everything but himself for the outcome.
We like kloppo because he’s funny and you dippers can get as upset about that as you like but that’s how it is laddie.
So take aboard the fact that others are not beset with your delusions eh?
 
BobFromParva said:
It’s somehow sad but also funny the way that you dodgy dippers can’t let go.

Ironic that my initial post, as a lower league supporter, was to say how much I like kloppo and his gurning rants.
Most lower league supporters have no emotional investment in Premier League football and the scores read out on the tannoy at ht are of little interest to us - the exception is the dipper scores . . we always cheer if liverpool are getting beaten because we know that we’re likely to be treated to klopp the clown throwing blame at everything but himself for the outcome.
We like kloppo because he’s funny and you dippers can get as upset about that as you like but that’s how it is laddie.
So take aboard the fact that others are not beset with your delusions eh?
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Ah, the delightful tapestry of the English lexicon, brimming with a plethora of nuances, and yet, here you are, wielding it with all the elegance of a sledgehammer in a china shop. It's quite fascinating, really. For someone who professes such an emotional disconnect from Premier League football, your words seem to bear the weight of quite the opposite sentiment.

Firstly, let's rectify a minor oversight: I am not a 'dipper'. In your fervor to paint with broad strokes, it appears you've sacrificed accuracy for the allure of low-hanging fruit. As a neutral, I must say, your attempts at banter remind me of someone using Shakespearean prose to order a pint—commendable effort, somewhat misplaced in execution.

Now, regarding your fondness for Klopp— or 'kloppo the clown' as you so eloquently put it— it's evident that your emotional palette, with its distinct shades of schadenfreude, is generously peppered with a unique mix of bemusement and bias. While I genuinely respect everyone's right to an opinion, it's slightly jarring to find that your world is so colored by the performances of a team and manager you claim to be so detached from.

One might even suggest, with a dash of playful irony, that your fixation on Liverpool scores—and Klopp in particular—hints at an unacknowledged void, perhaps the lack of excitement or prominence in your own team's escapades?

Finally, as an ode to your affinity for the English language, allow me to leave you with this: While our footballing loyalties might diverge, I sincerely hope we can find common ground in the appreciation of a well-crafted jibe, a nuanced sledge, and the rich tapestry of words that the Queen's language affords us. Might I recommend a refresher course in rhetoric and grammar? It could add that missing panache to your next riposte.

I wouldn't hold my breath though because we all know that deep down you just need attention... So if that's what you want then that's what I shall use my newbie posts on...
 
Neutral like Switzerland said:
Ah, the delightful tapestry of the English lexicon, brimming with a plethora of nuances, and yet, here you are, wielding it with all the elegance of a sledgehammer in a china shop. It's quite fascinating, really. For someone who professes such an emotional disconnect from Premier League football, your words seem to bear the weight of quite the opposite sentiment.

Firstly, let's rectify a minor oversight: I am not a 'dipper'. In your fervor to paint with broad strokes, it appears you've sacrificed accuracy for the allure of low-hanging fruit. As a neutral, I must say, your attempts at banter remind me of someone using Shakespearean prose to order a pint—commendable effort, somewhat misplaced in execution.

Now, regarding your fondness for Klopp— or 'kloppo the clown' as you so eloquently put it— it's evident that your emotional palette, with its distinct shades of schadenfreude, is generously peppered with a unique mix of bemusement and bias. While I genuinely respect everyone's right to an opinion, it's slightly jarring to find that your world is so colored by the performances of a team and manager you claim to be so detached from.

One might even suggest, with a dash of playful irony, that your fixation on Liverpool scores—and Klopp in particular—hints at an unacknowledged void, perhaps the lack of excitement or prominence in your own team's escapades?

Finally, as an ode to your affinity for the English language, allow me to leave you with this: While our footballing loyalties might diverge, I sincerely hope we can find common ground in the appreciation of a well-crafted jibe, a nuanced sledge, and the rich tapestry of words that the Queen's language affords us. Might I recommend a refresher course in rhetoric and grammar? It could add that missing panache to your next riposte.

I wouldn't hold my breath though because we all know that deep down you just need attention... So if that's what you want then that's what I shall use my newbie posts on...
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Will you two get a room already?

You can wax each other lyrical to wordgasm or whatever it is that tickles your fancy.
 
Neutral like Switzerland said:
Ah, the delightful tapestry of the English lexicon, brimming with a plethora of nuances, and yet, here you are, wielding it with all the elegance of a sledgehammer in a china shop. It's quite fascinating, really. For someone who professes such an emotional disconnect from Premier League football, your words seem to bear the weight of quite the opposite sentiment.

Firstly, let's rectify a minor oversight: I am not a 'dipper'. In your fervor to paint with broad strokes, it appears you've sacrificed accuracy for the allure of low-hanging fruit. As a neutral, I must say, your attempts at banter remind me of someone using Shakespearean prose to order a pint—commendable effort, somewhat misplaced in execution.

Now, regarding your fondness for Klopp— or 'kloppo the clown' as you so eloquently put it— it's evident that your emotional palette, with its distinct shades of schadenfreude, is generously peppered with a unique mix of bemusement and bias. While I genuinely respect everyone's right to an opinion, it's slightly jarring to find that your world is so colored by the performances of a team and manager you claim to be so detached from.

One might even suggest, with a dash of playful irony, that your fixation on Liverpool scores—and Klopp in particular—hints at an unacknowledged void, perhaps the lack of excitement or prominence in your own team's escapades?

Finally, as an ode to your affinity for the English language, allow me to leave you with this: While our footballing loyalties might diverge, I sincerely hope we can find common ground in the appreciation of a well-crafted jibe, a nuanced sledge, and the rich tapestry of words that the Queen's language affords us. Might I recommend a refresher course in rhetoric and grammar? It could add that missing panache to your next riposte.

I wouldn't hold my breath though because we all know that deep down you just need attention... So if that's what you want then that's what I shall use my newbie posts on...
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You’re spouting pure shite out of your sadly deluded arse.

I’d ask why you kick up a fuss about the fact that the vast majority of football supporters, at every level in football, despise liverpool and their supporters for their support of racists (the whole club wearing the Suarez T’s), their denial about the crimes of their most famous son (Savile) and the wanton bullying violence they’ve repeatedly displayed down the years, but the word ‘delusional’ is synonymous with the word ‘dipper’ so there’s my answer I guess.

I wrote that I liked kloppo for his idiotic gurning, he’s a clown, he’s funny and I like funny.
You don’t need to share my opinion, it’s a forum we can differ and you can love kloppo all you like, it’s nothing more than I’d expect from a wretch who supported Suarez and holds Savile dear to his heart.
So wrap yourself in your kloppo bedding and rock away in the corner of your damp bedroom but please leave me alone.

The only good thing coming out of your current fixation on me is that the girl who wouldn’t date you when you were 11 is probably getting stalked less by you at the moment.

You’re the turd that wouldn’t flush why don’t you please go and annoy someone else eh?
 
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BobFromParva said:
You’re spouting pure shite out of your sadly deluded arse.

I’d ask why you kick up a fuss about the fact that the vast majority of football supporters, at every level in football, despise liverpool and their supporters for their support of racists (the whole club wearing the Suarez T’s), their denial about the crimes of their most famous son (Savile) and the wanton bullying violence they’ve repeatedly displayed down the years, but the word ‘delusional’ is synonymous with the word ‘dipper’ so there’s my answer I guess.

I wrote that I liked kloppo for his idiotic gurning, he’s a clown, he’s funny and I like funny.
You don’t need to share my opinion, it’s a forum we can differ and you can love kloppo all you like, it’s nothing more than I’d expect from a wretch who supported Suarez and holds Savile dear to his heart.
So wrap yourself in your kloppo bedding and rock away in the corner of your damp bedroom but please leave me alone.

You’re like the turd that wouldn’t flush and the only good thing coming out of your current fixation on me is that the girl who wouldn’t date you when you were 11 is probably getting stalked less by you at the moment.

You’re the turd that wouldn’t flush why don’t you please go and annoy someone else eh?
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Can you just stop. It’s getting annoying so maybe shorten it up a bit ?
 
BobFromParva said:
You’re spouting pure shite out of your sadly deluded arse.

I’d ask why you kick up a fuss about the fact that the vast majority of football supporters, at every level in football, despise liverpool and their supporters for their support of racists (the whole club wearing the Suarez T’s), their denial about the crimes of their most famous son (Savile) and the wanton bullying violence they’ve repeatedly displayed down the years, but the word ‘delusional’ is synonymous with the word ‘dipper’ so there’s my answer I guess.

I wrote that I liked kloppo for his idiotic gurning, he’s a clown, he’s funny and I like funny.
You don’t need to share my opinion, it’s a forum we can differ and you can love kloppo all you like, it’s nothing more than I’d expect from a wretch who supported Suarez and holds Savile dear to his heart.
So wrap yourself in your kloppo bedding and rock away in the corner of your damp bedroom but please leave me alone.

You’re like the turd that wouldn’t flush and the only good thing coming out of your current fixation on me is that the girl who wouldn’t date you when you were 11 is probably getting stalked less by you at the moment.

You’re the turd that wouldn’t flush why don’t you please go and annoy someone else eh?
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Great post
 
BobFromParva said:
You’re spouting pure shite out of your sadly deluded arse.

I’d ask why you kick up a fuss about the fact that the vast majority of football supporters, at every level in football, despise liverpool and their supporters for their support of racists (the whole club wearing the Suarez T’s), their denial about the crimes of their most famous son (Savile) and the wanton bullying violence they’ve repeatedly displayed down the years, but the word ‘delusional’ is synonymous with the word ‘dipper’ so there’s my answer I guess.

I wrote that I liked kloppo for his idiotic gurning, he’s a clown, he’s funny and I like funny.
You don’t need to share my opinion, it’s a forum we can differ and you can love kloppo all you like, it’s nothing more than I’d expect from a wretch who supported Suarez and holds Savile dear to his heart.
So wrap yourself in your kloppo bedding and rock away in the corner of your damp bedroom but please leave me alone.

You’re like the turd that wouldn’t flush and the only good thing coming out of your current fixation on me is that the girl who wouldn’t date you when you were 11 is probably getting stalked less by you at the moment.

You’re the turd that wouldn’t flush why don’t you please go and annoy someone else eh?
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Your continued engagement, despite your evident disdain, paints a curious picture, one I can't help but analyze with a mix of bemusement and intrigue.

Firstly, it's essential to understand that the vastness of football fandom, with its myriad colors, loyalties, and nuances, cannot, and should not, be reduced to sweeping generalizations. That's a bit like calling all of English literature drab based on a few poorly written novels. The acts of a few don't define the sentiment of many.

Your mention of Suarez and Savile, both of whom have contentious histories and affiliations, seems to be aimed at baiting rather than fostering a genuine discussion. As an ardent advocate of meaningful conversations, I find it best to steer clear of ad hominem tactics and focus on the essence of the matter.

Your perspective on Klopp—as a source of amusement—is duly noted and, as you rightfully pointed out, this is a forum, and diversity in thought is its very lifeblood. Just as you're entitled to your views, I stand by my perspective, not as a 'dipper', but as a neutral observer.

However, your repeated allusions to personal attacks, from the notion of 'kloppo bedding' to the curious analogy of a 'turd that wouldn’t flush', while creatively colorful, seem more like distractions than substantive points. Similarly, the hypothetical narrative about an eleven-year-old's romantic endeavors, while vivid, seems somewhat out of place.

In the spirit of respect and mutual understanding, might I suggest we take a leaf from the annals of classic English literature? Much like Elizabeth Bennet and Mr. Darcy in Austen's 'Pride and Prejudice', perhaps it's time we acknowledge our differences, understand that further discourse may not yield productive results, and part ways with the quiet dignity of characters well penned.

I wish you a journey filled with enlightening conversations, free from the burden of past biases. May our next interaction, if there is one, be under more harmonious circumstances.

PS... If you could read, without the need for attacks and attention, then you would have noticed that I bid you a farewell two posts ago and yet you keep coming back, personal attacks and all... Now please be off and many blessings to you.
 
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