Absolutely ridiculous no one is talking about that. But like I've said before, football isn't finishing. It's finished. The oil has spread everywhere and all wildlife is dead.
I'm just taking gulps of oxygen in the game where I can. Short term.
Jurgen Klopp Sack Watch
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Absolutely ridiculous no one is talking about that. But like I've said before, football isn't finishing. It's finished. The oil has spread everywhere and all wildlife is dead.
I'm just taking gulps of oxygen in the game where I can. Short term.
Absolutely no way. I genuinely hate Klopp because he is a classless prick.
Thanks for the honest answer.
It was. Taylor had a mare, and overlooked plenty of clear fouls for Liverpool, so I do understand his frustration.
Oh, come on. We need a bit of passion. This is not underage football.
I can't stand him, genuinely. I think he is a horrific bully and I can't stand people like that. There is no reason for him to act like he does and I think he is a monumental arsehole.
It was a foul on Salah but it's completely bizarre to square up to the linesman and start screaming in his face. Decisions sometimes don't go your way, fecking deal with it. It was a temper tantrum that you'd barely expect a child to throw.
Passion is great. Managers squaring up to linesmen is off.
They have a run of winnable games now, so if he were given a ban (no chance), they'd still get the results.
Absolutely and he deserves the red and subsequent punishment. We move on.
Now can we discuss why we keep getting a Manchester ref for every single Manchester game we play?
I absolutely 'heart' this picture. No better sight in football.
Klopp.Is.Back.
you say that but what happens when a 7 year old orphan from africa does that to his teacher tomorrow? or a carer does it to a young girl with locked in syndrome?
easiest way to explain away the consistent referee bias for liverpool “ref’s from manchester, mate, can’t be bent.”
It was there Cup final today. No real pressure on them to win. They won’t find it so easy against teams that sit back. Trent and Diaz will be big misses in next couple of weeks.
True that. He's used it well to get his team fired up.
Doesn't take away the point though. There has to be more done to limit this situation though.
So, which one of the current top 4 will drop out to allow Liverpool finish the season in the top 4? Hyped up at the moment by the UK media but my money will be on Arsenal. Conte could lose the rag also.
siege mentality he plays also.
Didn't "Trent" make a miraculous return from "injury" today?
Anyways, hope you're right and I'm wrong.
I swear whenever I bet on a gut feeling I end up coming close but never winning.
This time I didn't bet...
Yep. Klopp does that a lot. Pep was embarrassing when the ref went to check VAR as well. Both should be punished for that. Refs shouldn't have to have 40 to 60 year old managers scream at them as they're doing their jobs.
Yeah this was awful - you can’t have managers and players hounding refs. VAR needs to become separate, refs are so average they need to be taken off the important VAR decisions. So many bad calls, obvious fouls etc. All it would take is to announce the rule it is an immediate red card if you approach the ref at the monitor, send off the first one or two who break the rule and the rest will get in line immediately. Ref’s problem is no one takes them seriously because they’re so inconsistent.
Look where they placed the VAR tv. Surrounded by 2 banks of liverpool fans right over his shoulder
How can that ever be independent?
Totally different. I used to ref as well but parents and kids coaches are told not to curse ect..and the refs in those leagues with kids are usually thin skinned and tend to throw yellow and red cards around for just about any dissent. In a premier league match this intense with the two best teams it gets heated. Not a big deal just like when Rooney used to f and blind at refs in matches when united were at the top.
I am here, have you heard the saying "one swallow a summer doesn't make?" before, exactly this.
One win changes nothing.
There were even fans shouting at the ref while he was looking at the screen. They were only about 5 feet from him.
Tbf it was the clearest foul you could ever see. Its like the assistant was either blind or chose not to call it so that City could have another chance.
Yesterday i hoped city would smash you but deep down I was pleased that you won.
City is like playing age of empires with cheat codes giving you unlimited resources while everyone else is chopping wood and mining goal.
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Or city sent envelops to the refs. I wouldn't be surprised.
Imo klopp should have decked the ref.
Yeah. In fact, let's not have fans in the stadium.Look where they placed the VAR tv. Surrounded by 2 banks of liverpool fans right over his shoulder
How can that ever be independent?
How he gets away with this I'll never know.
To be honest my dream scenario is VAR is a completely separate body to the refs and ultimately run 100% of the onfield game with the refs acting simply as their ‘messenger’, I think we have the tech and ability to do this now I.e. make 99% of decisions within a few seconds.Look where they placed the VAR tv. Surrounded by 2 banks of liverpool fans right over his shoulder
How can that ever be independent?
Reffing is a hard job, it’s much easier to us to see fouls on tv but the standard is so poor right now - the amount of bad calls even with VAR is inexcusable.
Think you might be missing the point a tad.
100% it's how it always should have been. All they do is cover for eachother while never being scrutinised. Rugby manages it absolutely fine, why does football need to be different.
No I am not. It's a packed football stadium and you're talking about independence of the ref based on how close the monitor is to fans.
Just put the monitor somewhere he's not being surrounded by fans, it's not difficult. Why don't they have it on the touchline like everybody else? It's clearly placed stragetically.
If the referee really needs to go over to a screen then it should be in a covered area nobody else can see, not with fans shouting in his ear PENO LAD PENO
Is there any other sport that has pressure?
Cause it always seems like when managers, like Klopp yesterday, or players harass and abuse the officials then some people excuse it as "that's passion"
I just don't recall other officials getting the level of vitriol from managers/players in other sports. Are UFC trainers shouting abuse at the referee during the fights? Rugby? NFL? Anything else?
It's ridiculous grown men are allowed to act in the way they do all because football has "pressure" to it. As if that is a unique aspect only found in professional football. It's embarrassing.
They aren't toddlers you know, they should be expected to behave like adults. Not coddled because they are on a team you support and they are having a temper tantrum disguised as "passion".
Cause it always seems like when managers, like Klopp yesterday, or players harass and abuse the officials then some people excuse it as "that's passion"
I just don't recall other officials getting the level of vitriol from managers/players in other sports. Are UFC trainers shouting abuse at the referee during the fights? Rugby? NFL? Anything else?
It's ridiculous grown men are allowed to act in the way they do all because football has "pressure" to it. As if that is a unique aspect only found in professional football. It's embarrassing.
They aren't toddlers you know, they should be expected to behave like adults. Not coddled because they are on a team you support and they are having a temper tantrum disguised as "passion".
Klopp rightly sent off but it was a blatant and stone wall foul on Salah
So it looks like Klopp will only get a one-match ban despite 1) a red card and 2) flipping the bird out to the referee in front of cameras. In comparison, Fergie got a 5-match ban in 2011 because of outspoken criticisms of referees with no expletives nor insulting gestures.
What is that?
What is that?
Because the English media just act as if it never happened. FA doesn't care if no one is moaning, unless it is us, in which case they will pay for lip readers and translators to charge our managers.
Moyes got away with directly criticising the VAR ref and the on pitch ref and the media are praising him for it.
What happened to the FA fining and banning managers for doing so little as sucking their teeth when asked about the ref?
I'm also trying to understand what the FA are doing nowadays with that wave of new managers getting away with a huge lot whereas the likes of Fergie, Wenger and Mourinho used to get the book thrown hard at them for less.
Pep, Klopp and Conte would have cumulated fees and bans galore if the FA maintained the same standards as before.
No we weren’t … we beat PSG, Chelsea and City on our March towards the final. We played hard to the final whistle, they lost concentration.