Jurgen Klopp Sack Watch

So let me get this straight, even though Liverpool don’t have a chance at the league you all want City to win on Sunday. You want the team that has taken over your city and basically has become your daddy for the last decade to win. It’s sad that you have given up on hope of reclaiming the city but I suppose that’s explainable considering your neighbors dominance over you. Have fun rooting for them.
City will win the league regardless. Liverpool are part of our competition for 3rd/4th place - simple as that.
 
So let me get this straight, even though Liverpool don’t have a chance at the league you all want City to win on Sunday. You want the team that has taken over your city and basically has become your daddy for the last decade to win. It’s sad that you have given up on hope of reclaiming the city but I suppose that’s explainable considering your neighbors dominance over you. Have fun rooting for them.

I will! No need to be cranky that your best ever side in modern times only managed one paltry league title.
 
I will! No need to be cranky that your best ever side in modern times only managed one paltry league title.

One paltry league in a decade is hugely better than zero paltry leagues. What say you? :p
 
I think they'll beat City on Sunday

I think they will too. At some point they will get their mojo back. City havent played anyone like Liverpool yet in the League but it will be interesting for sure!
 
So let me get this straight, even though Liverpool don’t have a chance at the league you all want City to win on Sunday. You want the team that has taken over your city and basically has become your daddy for the last decade to win. It’s sad that you have given up on hope of reclaiming the city but I suppose that’s explainable considering your neighbors dominance over you. Have fun rooting for them.

I don't,

I've pretty much hated whichever club was threatening our dominance the most over the years.

In the late 90s - early 2000s I hated Arsenal way more than them.

Mid - Late 2000s, I hated Chelsea by far the most.

2012 onwards I've hated City the most overall but yeah, I absolutely can't stand Klopp and his Liverpool side either.

For Sundays game, I'd prefer a draw. I don't want Liverpool picking up to much confidence but neither do I want to see City with another win.

I know its highly unlikely but I'd still like to believe we can challenge for the title this season.
 
So let me get this straight, even though Liverpool don’t have a chance at the league you all want City to win on Sunday. You want the team that has taken over your city and basically has become your daddy for the last decade to win. It’s sad that you have given up on hope of reclaiming the city but I suppose that’s explainable considering your neighbors dominance over you. Have fun rooting for them.

Yup.
 
So let me get this straight, even though Liverpool don’t have a chance at the league you all want City to win on Sunday. You want the team that has taken over your city and basically has become your daddy for the last decade to win. It’s sad that you have given up on hope of reclaiming the city but I suppose that’s explainable considering your neighbors dominance over you. Have fun rooting for them.

Yes. One I’ll always root for anyone playing against you lot, two City will walk the league regardless there’s no other real challenger, I don’t consider Arsenal to be one and I also don’t put any value on City’s trophies anyway as their bunch of cheating, sports washing cnuts with unlimited funds and thirdly we’re a few years off competing with them anyway as we’re still building a squad and learning the new mangers system so it’s not like we’re directly competing with them for the title. Hope that clears it up for you. :)
 
So let me get this straight, even though Liverpool don’t have a chance at the league you all want City to win on Sunday. You want the team that has taken over your city and basically has become your daddy for the last decade to win. It’s sad that you have given up on hope of reclaiming the city but I suppose that’s explainable considering your neighbors dominance over you. Have fun rooting for them.
Oh, absolutely, and as a Liverpool fan you should be actually quite glad - it only shows that despite the billions pumped in the City project, LFC remains our most bitter and serious rival. I can't see it changing in the next decades, unless City get anywhere close to our league tally and become anyhow relevant in Europe. I really don't care too much about their domestic success - perhaps if I lived in Manchester area and knew City fans personally it would be any different, but as a foreign fan visiting the city and OT every now and then, they don't bother me too much.
 
So let me get this straight, even though Liverpool don’t have a chance at the league you all want City to win on Sunday. You want the team that has taken over your city and basically has become your daddy for the last decade to win. It’s sad that you have given up on hope of reclaiming the city but I suppose that’s explainable considering your neighbors dominance over you. Have fun rooting for them.
Treat it as a compliment - it actually bothers us when you lot win the big ones. We don't consider City's success to be anything but vacuous sportwashing, so their success is asterisked as far as I'm concerned.
 
So let me get this straight, even though Liverpool don’t have a chance at the league you all want City to win on Sunday. You want the team that has taken over your city and basically has become your daddy for the last decade to win. It’s sad that you have given up on hope of reclaiming the city but I suppose that’s explainable considering your neighbors dominance over you. Have fun rooting for them.

How have you posted for so long on this forum, yet still don't understand that Liverpool and City are local rivals geography wise, but absolutely worlds apart in every other way?

A tiny percentage of United fans may care about City historically, but generally every other United fan understands that they're a financially doped club whose success brings just a shrug. Whereas any Liverpool trophy is rammed down out throat by 1,000s of Liverpool fans who we encounter locally, plus the media hype goes up to unreal levels. i.e. VD the best ever defender, TAA the best right back etc...

Liverpool aren't totally out of anything, until they're totally out of it. Not winning at the weekend certainly helps that.
Also we'd like to get into the top 4 ahead of them, so a City win aids that too.
 
They will sack him at some point. All managerial careers end in failure at some point, Fergie is one of the only exceptions to this rule.

Forget what he wants for a second, the owners won't want to hear that they've got to spend £200m next summer to compete after they've just spent a bunch of money on shite. At that point it's cheaper to replace the manager and try and get someone like Tuchel or maybe Nagelsmann if he gets the boot at Bayern. The money people make these decisions, there's no sentiment involved in the process.

And as for Klopp, wait for the sack and get paid out instead of walking away from a multi million pound payday. It's not like he won't find work once he gets sacked.

I agree with your first point. Ferguson's longevity at a single club in this league, while operating at the peak of the table is something I struggle to envision any manager replicating.

With regards to the second though I think Klopp is in about as safe as a position as one can be as a PL manager. He's widely regarded as one of the best coaches in the game, and relatively speaking he's been financially absolutely brilliant for the Liverpool owners. Last summer they spent less than £100m, they were outspent by 9 other PL clubs. Over his tenure he's spent less on wages and transfers than most of his rivals, while having cemented his side as the second best in the competition.
 
So let me get this straight, even though Liverpool don’t have a chance at the league you all want City to win on Sunday. You want the team that has taken over your city and basically has become your daddy for the last decade to win. It’s sad that you have given up on hope of reclaiming the city but I suppose that’s explainable considering your neighbors dominance over you. Have fun rooting for them.

Well you see anything City does doesn’t really mean anything as they are a crap football club who are victims of a huge sports washing project.
 
Well you see anything City does doesn’t really mean anything as they are a crap football club who are victims of a huge sports washing project. They haven’t worked their way to the top through making money by being a well managed and decent club.
That is true and I think that most opposition fans hold onto that fact. The thing is, this isn't just a flash in the pan occurrence and the longer it goes on, say 20+ years, the more that the sport-washing narrative gets eroded and people view it as organic growth. People that are now teenagers have always associated City with success. Give it another 10 or 20 years and people won't give a damn about how City got to where they were, just that they have always been on top, there or thereabouts.

I'd also say that they are extremely well managed, frustratingly so!
 
There's no way someone can genuinely believe the positions you're taking. No one thinks Houllier or Benitez were better for Liverpool than Klopp

What has Klopp actually managed to do as manager of Liverpool??
"Win" a "title" that no one had any interest in winning due to people being far more concerned about themselves or their loved ones staying alive, one that will always have an "*" by the side of it, a Champions League beating Spurs to do so, and a couple of other cups.
Fair play to him doing all of that, but Rafa beat a top class AC Milan side to win his Champions League title, and Houiller won three trophies, one a European one in one season.

Both of what they achieved surpasses what Klopp has achieved as Liverpool manager.
 
That is true and I think that most opposition fans hold onto that fact. The thing is, this isn't just a flash in the pan occurrence and the longer it goes on, say 20+ years, the more that the sport-washing narrative gets eroded and people view it as organic growth. People that are now teenagers have always associated City with success. Give it another 10 or 20 years and people won't give a damn about how City got to where they were, just that they have always been on top, there or thereabouts.

I'd also say that they are extremely well managed, frustratingly so!

Just look at how they jumped over Doncaster Bells to get a WSL place, that narrative or fact over the years has sadly been forgotten about.
 
That is true and I think that most opposition fans hold onto that fact. The thing is, this isn't just a flash in the pan occurrence and the longer it goes on, say 20+ years, the more that the sport-washing narrative gets eroded and people view it as organic growth. People that are now teenagers have always associated City with success. Give it another 10 or 20 years and people won't give a damn about how City got to where they were, just that they have always been on top, there or thereabouts.

I'd also say that they are extremely well managed, frustratingly so!
This is unfortunately true. No one really cared about how Chelsea got to the top after a decade. At least, not until the Russian invasion.
 
Quite self explanatory. When a player over the age of 30 goes a few games without scoring/performing well some can't wait to proclaim that they're finished.

They were saying Ronaldo has been finished since he hit 30, then he went on to score 50 goals in the season.

Hopefully, he's got the taste back for scoring goals again, now.
 
What has Klopp actually managed to do as manager of Liverpool??
"Win" a "title" that no one had any interest in winning due to people being far more concerned about themselves or their loved ones staying alive, one that will always have an "*" by the side of it, a Champions League beating Spurs to do so, and a couple of other cups.
Fair play to him doing all of that, but Rafa beat a top class AC Milan side to win his Champions League title, and Houiller won three trophies, one a European one in one season.

Both of what they achieved surpasses what Klopp has achieved as Liverpool manager.
You're still here not backing down :lol: He's won every trophy available to him - they were going to win the league before covid hit btw.

Would you rather United won the FA cup, League cup and EL in one season than just the CL? I know what I'd take.
 
Houiller was and will remain a far more successful manager for Liverpool than Klopp, winning 3 trophies, including a European one, on one season, dwarfs what Klopp has achieved at Liverpool.
99.9999% of the Pool fans would disagree with you ... The debate was settled the day he won the League. He has also won FAC, LC and CL while playing a style 100 times better than Rafa/Houllier.