Jurgen Klopp Sack Watch
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Fergie’s “win over the mum” approach to youth signings in action
Perhaps it was sign the player with a view to getting to know his mum better
Yeah I thought that any Utd fans that were bitter (especially those still angry about it years later) about what the Sunderland fans did that day were just being over-sensitive, just like the Liverpool fans complaining about the Wolves fans on Sunday are being. Ironically Sunderland took more points off City that season than anyone else, and were routinely beating them 1-0 at home (4 seasons in a row) at the time.
On that same day at the end of 2011/2012, Bolton were relegated after drawing at Stoke, and the Stoke fans were mocking Bolton's plight as you'd expect. On the final day in 2008/2009, the Villa fans were pretty mercilessly mocking Newcastle who were relegated (to be fair most football fans in the country probably found that hilarious). It's all just football banter, dishing it out and taking it. When we were relegated in 2011/2012, I remember Wigan fans (yes they do have a few here and there !) mocking us quite brutally as it was mathematically confirmed, and I wasn't angry about it at all.
I didn’t realise that they didn’t beat any of the top 4 in the league this year.
Yup - all 6 of their games against the other 3 top 4 clubs ended in draws.
So every other top 4 team got beaten by another top four team except Liverpool? Nice.
As Arsenal fans would say: invincible.
You know two draws is less points than a win and a loss, right?So every other top 4 team got beaten by another top for team except Liverpool? Nice.
It's also stopping the other teams from getting two more points. Anyway the main point is: invincible.
You love to see it.I can just tell your Keyboard/phone took real bashing typing that out.
but we won the league, we won it 13 times. and that is what matters.
13 EPL titles in 27 years. 1 title every two seasons
Klopp 1 title in 7 years. 1 title every seven years.
The day Klopp reaches the same ratio, than we will talk.
Okay so I guess we can't talk about any manager whatsoever in the game if that's your threshold?
Pep?Okay so I guess we can't talk about any manager whatsoever in the game if that's your threshold?
Liverpool are starting to make quiet a few fierce rivals.
The obvious ones, Manutd, City, Everton.
Chelsea fans were celebrating Citys 3rd goal against Villa.
Leicester City is becoming a bit nasty after the league cup tie.
Now Wolves.
Klopp will start to realise what’s it like To face a cup final every week! Welcome to our world!
There's nothing arguable about it - Pep has won 4 out of the last 5 leagues, of course City are better than you guys domestically.
Also this weird obsession with points total from Liverpool fans is fast becoming the new "moral victory". It means absolutely nothing.
Okay so I guess we can't talk about any manager whatsoever in the game if that's your threshold?
You can talk about them, worship them and praise them, but do not use their meaning less stats to compare them with SAF.
No of course it doesn't, I'm not trying to convince anyone that we deserve it, should have won it, whatever. It does show that we have been incredibly consistent in the league as well and could have easily won it on most given years. And then Utd fans can reply with "yeah but you didn't so it doesn't mean anything" again and we go on and on.
They always come up with these kind of useless stats and useless importance given to trivial things. The Arsenal of rich people.
God you lot are a sensitive bunch when it comes to your success under SAF. No one in their right mind would compare any manager with SAF, especially on the domestic front. Happy now?
Just wait if Klopp wins his second CL this weekend though. 2 in 6 full seasons compared to 2 in 27, just think about how many stats and ratios we'll be able to talk about then
I don't know why Liverpool fans have this obsession about United not getting 90+ points and winning titles whilst losing to City to the title.
In my opinion, it was beat the best to win the title. If that's 60 points or 100 points.
You could have easily won it on most given years, but dont act as if Liverpool were not in the league then, they didn't win it.
Its like saying if VAR was introduced much earlier x,y,z would have changed.
Just wait if Klopp wins his second CL this weekend though. 2 in 6 full seasons compared to 2 in 27, just think about how many stats and ratios we'll be able to talk about then
Thats fine, Fergie won 13 PL titles, something that is harder to do.
I posted once about it to show that we've been consistent, I'm not obsessed by it at all.
Not sure I fully agree with "beat the best to win the title" per se though in a league format where you only play your direct rivals twice, but that's another discussion.
Other clubs uniting together to dislike Liverpool together sounds good !
They probably also despise Spurs after the 2 costly draws this season and West Ham after their away defeat there, so maybe there could be some increased needle there in the future.
Their games against Burnley could be very tense, with Dyche and Klopp previously taking shots against each other and each others' players re footballing ethics, Burnley beating them 2-0 with 19% possession a few years back, stopping them from having a 100% home record in 2019/2020, ending their unbeaten run at Anfield last season etc., so they'll be happy about their relegation !
City got a combined 4 points out of 12 against them, if anything we should be happy about those teams this season!
Why even is there a conversation on this board that contains SAF and Klopp in the same sentence
God you lot are a sensitive bunch when it comes to your success under SAF. No one in their right mind would compare any manager with SAF, especially on the domestic front. Happy now?
Just wait if Klopp wins his second CL this weekend though. 2 in 6 full seasons compared to 2 in 27, just think about how many stats and ratios we'll be able to talk about then
You and the dumbstar could always go and try to wum somewhere else
yes we are sensitive when it comes to him.God you lot are a sensitive bunch when it comes to your success under SAF. No one in their right mind would compare any manager with SAF, especially on the domestic front. Happy now?
Just wait if Klopp wins his second CL this weekend though. 2 in 6 full seasons compared to 2 in 27, just think about how many stats and ratios we'll be able to talk about then
Yes you can heap all praises for Klopp if he wins you two UCL.
100% agree. You either win or you lose. Doesn't matter how. There's no discussion or excuses.
Klopp will need more PL titles under his belt and hopefully he will. Just like Pep will need at least one CL with City under his belt, and it's likely he will at some point too. Just like Ferguson needed to win more than just two CLs in his 20 year career in Europe (I already touched on this elsewhere).
He did that in 42 games. Roughly equivalent to 83 points in a 38 game season.
7 years ago today, we were hammered 6-1 by Stoke.
Gobsmacking that Rodgers kept his job after that.
Gobsmacking that Rodgers kept his job after that.
That's probably because no one was available that summer. Klopp gave signals that he would take the job but only after the 15/16 season had begun and FSG had decided Rodgers needed to go.
Kind of funny that through all the good times we still managed a 7-2 defeat under Klopp. We've also lost 5-0, 4-0 and 4-1 to Pep's City.
League titles prevail over CL all day long.
Wenger’s Arsenal and Mourhino’s Chelsea will always be better than Tuchel’s Chelsea and Benetiz’s Liverpool.
Peps City will always be better than Klopps Liverpool!
You reckon 14-18 Barcelona was better than 14-18 Madrid?
(Here come the Madrid fans.
) Guys, as suspected, your 13+ CL trophies are useless. Throw them in the river. Barca is the best Spanish team ever.
Fergie’s CL record should have been better but he didn’t need anything, as if he needed to prove himself more
His trophy haul is obscene.The CL was also much much stronger then.
Was taking about British football.
In terms of the actual achievement I agree. You can't beat doing it over 38 games like that.
I do think players value a CL higher though.
Pep's haul of 4 PL's in five seasons is much much better than Flopps one covid pl in 8 seasons.
Then there is Sir Alex way way up there with 13 PL's.
On his own more PL's than Pep, Jose, Wenger and Flopp added together.
Then there is Sir Alex way way up there with 13 PL's.
On his own more PL's than Pep, Jose, Wenger and Flopp added together.
Depends on the period you're talking about. From 05-09 English teams were consistently making the latter stages. Even Wenger's Arsenal had a final and semi-final appearance in there. That period wasn't especially strong in terms of competition for the English clubs imo. The 90's was difficult and that period when they had two group stages was especially hard as well. The Messi/Ronaldo era's at Barcelona/Madrid from 2010 through to 2018 were arguably the hardest because of the level of those two players/sides. Some of the numbers they were getting were out of this world.Fergie’s CL record should have been better but he didn’t need anything, as if he needed to prove himself more
The CL was also much much stronger then.
Could you be wrong?
After all it's just your perception.
What's for sure is that the PL is much much harder to win than the CL.